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Obi-Wan Kenobi 1x03 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-02-14 21:28:50
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Obi-Wan Kenobi 1x03 Full Reaction

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Ryan

One scene here just encapsulates why I love Star Wars so much. "Obi Wan and Leia are in a precarious situation on the run, and they encounter a guy who seems friendly but is actually a fascist collaborator who sells them out at the first opportunity. Oh, and he's also a giant mole thing, because why the hell not?"

Thomas Corp

I’m sorry to hear you had a bad morning, Jess. There's nothing to worry about with your reaction as your reaction to this episode was superb. I’ll likely have to split my comments in two as yeah, I'm with you on this episode hitting you like a ton of bricks. My brother and I when we saw it, we went through STRONG emotions. Start by discussing Obi-Wan's scenes with Leia which were simultaneously heartwarming and heartbreaking. Especially the scene where Leia cottons onto the fact that Obi-Wan knew her mother. Your reactions to those scenes were sweet. And your reaction to that poor unfortunate stormtrooper was priceless. As you said, “No fun for that guy.” It's also a haunting moment when Obi-Wan hallucinates and sees Anakin. I loved seeing the Fortress Inquisitorius on the moon of Nur brought to life in live-action. The tension between the Inquisitors remains intriguing. I loved the Spaceballs moment when they find where Obi-Wan is, and the Third Sister says, “I’ll call Mustafar immediately and notify Lord Vader.” To which the Fifth Brother chimed in, “I already called him, Third Sister, he knows everything.” I particularly love how Sung Kang sounds so smug in his line delivery in that scene. Likewise, I love Rya Kihlstedt as The Fourth Sister in that she gives the impression she’s far more task-oriented than her fellow Inquisitors and has far less tolerance for the petty power squabbles. I still maintain my not being the biggest fan of the Third Sister, though I wish to be clear that my own personal problems with the character are with the character; my beef is NOT with Moses Ingram. Now, having said that, I continue to like that you are intrigued by the Third Sister, and you continue to be curious as to her deal and what it is. I did know going into this that Indira Varma would be in the show, and it was leaked she would be playing an Imperial which got me very excited. It then was a surprise that she turned out to be, as you described her, a lovely ally. I was initially disappointed as I was looking forward to Indira playing an Imperial character, but she quickly won me over with her performance as Tala. Plus, we got Dedra in Andor later in the year, and she provided a lot of what I was initially looking forward to with who I thought Tala was going to be, so it all balanced out in the end. A surprise to hear about Quinlan. That got me emotional. I had anticipated your reaction to NED. When you said “You know I live for you! You KNOW it!” I said, “Yes, Jess, I did know that.” I like how when Obi-Wan tells Tala, “It’s just “Ben” these days.” Tala accepted that and didn’t inquire as to why he calls himself Ben. Of course, even if she did ask, Obi-Wan likely would have evaded the question as it’s too painful for him to talk about. Can’t say I blame him. Now onto the BIG highlight of the episode, Darth Vader. I first want to give SO much credit to Hayden for being brilliant as Vader, particularly how he perfectly marries his body language as Anakin with that of both David Prowse and Bob Anderson. And then there’s the voice. It is amazing how they used AI to so perfectly recreate the voice of James Earl Jones as Darth Vader from the original trilogy. It of course reminds us that James is as old as he is; he just turned ninety-two last month, and age has sadly caught up to his voice, hence why James himself did not provide his voice. James and his family, I've been told, were most impressed with how it all turned out in this show. You kept saying you got chills, me, I got SO FUCKING EXCITED seeing when Vader is on the planet. I LOVED your reaction to when Obi-Wan sensed something; a presence he’s not felt since... that was a great moment of your reaction. Horrifying moment when Vader terrorized the town, especially when he was snapping necks like a Twix bar. Made more jarring in that of the four Sith Lords introduced in the films, Vader has always been, comparatively speaking, the least sadistic. And I'll confess I LOVED every second of the scene as it showed again that Disney is not pulling punches with Vader. And watching it, I felt like a little kid again, seeing Vader for the first time. That bit with the kid, I even yelled, “Oh! Fuck YES!!”

Thomas Corp

Then there’s the confrontation. When Vader drew his blade, I yelled, “OH SHIT!!” It is as you say Obi-Wan's still processing Vader being alive, and before he can finish processing, Vader just drops by saying, “Surprise, motherfucker!” Ewan by the way, half his performance was not acting as he saw Vader and was taken back to the fear he felt when he was a kid seeing Vader for the first time, showing that he and I had somewhat different reactions to seeing Vader for the first time. I half anticipated the one line. When Obi-Wan says, “What have you become?” without even thinking I instinctively did a Vader impression and said, “What YOU made me.” No sooner do I finish saying that Vader says, “I am what YOU made me.” at which point I let out an Emperor cackle. Now, I’ve heard a lot of people jump on that line, yelling stuff like, “Anakin, you take responsibility for yourself!” I know people are more referring to Anakin’s fall and the whole killing kids kerfluffle, him being in the suit is largely on Obi-Wan, and it led to me being a wise-ass, saying, “Take responsibility for himself? Hm. The implication being that Anakin chopped off both legs and his sole remaining organic arm, then proceeded to set himself on fire, what, just for funzies?” I did love you pointing out in response to Vader’s one line that Obi-Wan did genuinely think he killed Anakin, leading me to say, “That’s true.” Yeah, the whole fight shows how as you put it the show being driven by history. It's humbling seeing Obi-Wan struggle. Made more horrifying by Vader not even using his full strength. You can tell by the fact that he only uses one hand to wield his lightsaber. Then there was the coals scene, which sent my adrenaline through the roof. Again, your reaction to that was everything. Just how you can tell Vader’s thoughts are probably like Loki in Thor Ragnarök, in that he’s thinking, “YES!! YES!!! THAT’S HOW IT FEELS!!!!” Tala saving Obi-Wan increased my respect for her. It's rotten the situation Leia finds herself in at the end of the episode. Now we’re at the halfway point, and I'm just reflecting on the reactions to the first half of this show. They have exceeded every expectation that I had. Words are failing me in just how sublime it is to be finally seeing your reactions to this show. Likewise, it is lovely to finally share it with you, and it is lovely the opportunity for us to share our experiences with it, and to hear your thoughts and insights of it. It is proving to be a most wonderful time, Jess. Thank you so much!

Ryan
>>101910955

It's especially nice to see this show take the time to reconcile certain bits of odd-in-retrospect writing in New Hope that the fans had long resigned themselves to accepting as just odd artifacts of Lucas not having planned any more of the franchise at the time. Like how Vader in this episode is just as furious as you'd expect after the last time he saw Obi Wan, when their meeting in New Hope had seemed weirdly calm, which now gives the impression of his having more time to control those emotions after getting them out here.

Jenny Chalek

Sorry to hear you were having a bad morning. Hope it got better after this!

Thomas Corp
>>101910955

Yeah, my brother and I talked about that a little. Specifically, how, yeah, in A New Hope, the reactions of both Darth Vader and Obi-Wan are remarkably subdued for it being the first time either of them has seen each other in nineteen years. To have this show reveal that they have their confrontation here nine years prior to A New Hope does go a long way in improving that aspect of A New Hope.

YodatheHobbit

Can't wait to watch the next one!

Saltire

I hope your day did get better after this reaction Jess, nothing worse than getting off to a shit start in the day. Again that opening is superb; some scenes miss the mark in this show for me, but when they nail it, boy do they nail it; and Vader has never been more menacing and angry. No wonder Obi-Wan is even more fearful knowing that is coming for him. They do a wonderful job with James Earl Jones voice portraying him. He can't get that power in his voice now since he is in his 90's, so they sampled and modified his voice; but it sounds as good as it did in the 80's. Reva better deliver, or else!! I do like the analogy Obi uses about the force and it being a light inside him. He needs to find it again. Its interesting how the force awakens itself to force-users though for the first time. Leia is as strong in the force as anyone, but it won't waken in her for another 12 years yet, and Luke in 9. For them to have such power given to them by Anakin inside, and not for it to awaken for so long, when we've seen infants like Ahsoka and others have it as toddlers; is very interesting. I love the vision Obi has of what he thinks Vader looks like, only for him to see he has become THAT, later in the episode; they set up his fear very well before the confrontation. The Inquisitors fighting against each other instead of working together to reach their goals, is exactly showing how the Empire is in the image of the Sith, where its ok to stand on each others toes to achieve more power. One thing I do like how they are expanding on in Star Wars, is showing how certain people are fine with the Empire. In the original trilogy it was very much good versus bad - and they are the worst! However, its realistic to show that the Empire works for many people who want that kind of firm hand - though I expect many of them haven't been on the wrong end of the Empire at this point. Lovely moment on the truck where Obi-Wan and Leia speak about family. Even though she is living a privileged lifestyle - that does come with responsibility of course - and has loving parents with the Organa's; it must be hard for her to understand why she isn't told of her biological parents, and at 10 she won't understand the reasons for all that secrecy. Good to hear Obi-Wan speak of the Jedi as his family. They were of course a different type of family, but they did raise him to become this wonderful person we know he is. Obi is still a hell of a shot with the way he handled those stormtroopers. Interesting that Quinlan Vos got out, one of my least favourite Jedi, but oh well. It makes sense though as he was always a loner and never really partook in the war. That moment where Obi senses Vader, and that power in the darkside, must be overwhelming. I love that the Grand Inquisitor's statement about the need for Jedi to help people, and it being an itch for them, which makes it easier for them to hunt them, comes to pass as Vader does the same knowing Obi is there, to draw him out. Ewan plays the palpable fear inside him so well in this scene, terrific acting. Its also why he runs away as much as he can from Vader later, as he is too unbalanced in fear to fight him and risks Leia's and Luke's future if he faces him in this state. When he ignites his lightsabre, you can feel his discombobulation and seeks protection from it, but it offers none and Vader is waiting for him. "What have you become?", "I am what you made me...". Great lines from both characters; Obi-Wan can't believe his old friend has become THIS, and Vader's response tries to further fill Obi-Wan with guilt about what happened. When they finally clash as Vader jumps him, its a hark back to when Vader surprised Luke on Bespin, coming right at him and chasing him down. He senses the unbalance in Obi-Wan and is fighting him one-handed. Obi-Wan is struggling to deflect the blows due to the power of Vader's strikes through his cybernetics. Later Vader ignites some flammable material and throws Obi-Wan into it, but Tala is there to help Obi get out. Vader is in no rush to chase him down though, he's waited 10 years and is like a cat teasing a mouse at this point. You are correct though Jess, Vader doesn't want to defeat Obi-Wan like this, it would be a shallow victory, he wants him at his best to then defeat him finally and show to himself he was always the greater of the two.

Saltire
>>101910955

But, but, but, they never met in the interim before A New Hope - this is scandalous, bah humbug!!! Honestly the fanbase is its own worst enemy at times.

Thomas Corp
>>101910955

Yeah, that was some of what my brother and I discussed. Specifically, we noted that Vader’s dialogue is on the vaguer side of things and never explicitly says that Mustafar was in fact the last time he and Obi-Wan met in the nineteen years between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. Thus, my brother and I had no problem with this series. In fairness, when they filmed A New Hope, Anakin and Vader were two separate people as the famous twist didn’t get created until Empire.

Thomas Corp
>>103276281

Vader suiting up was a superb sequence. I cried hearing James Earl Jones as Darth Vader again, even if it is an AI. Part of the Inquisitorious infighting also has the benefit of they’re too busy fighting amongst themselves that they never think to team up and try to take power for themselves, not that they’d have a shot against the Emperor. It is great to see more examples of Imperial sympathizers. I have a theory about Quinlan, though I'm not wanting to say much about it as I might have an answer before the year is out. LOVE the scene where Vader terrorizes the village to draw Obi-Wan out, and perhaps to vent a little. That line exchange gives you chills. I caught the paralell to Empire. I'd wager there is a touch of pragmatism in Vader’s actions in that since Tala came to his aid, it demonstrates Obi-Wan does have allies helping him out, thus letting him go so they can find out who those allies are perhaps factors into it some, though his greater priority is to prolong Obi-Wan's torment.

Saltire
>>101910955

Yes exactly. Anakin and Vader remained two separate people all the way through till the last minute of the script for Empire Strikes Back. Lucas was infamous for changing things at the last minute, so to suggest any of it was planned for the first film, is just wrong, hence I have no problem giving the lore to that scene, slack. They do walk a fine line between what has been shown in the films and series, and what they can do for this series; and knowing how it all resolves, I can say I have no issues at all with how they handled the lore in this show. There perhaps is a slight inconsistency for Rebels, but I can easily explain it to myself in my headcanon, and will probably discuss it when Jess gets on to that series (can't wait, god I love Rebels!!!).

Saltire
>>103276281

Oh the voice for Vader is wonderful. It may be synthetic now, but needs must as you could hear he is an old man now when he did the voice in Rogue One. And he's given his permission to use it for the show and for now on, so the voice will live on. The Inquisitors are pretty good villains in their own right, and against the weaker force users, they'd be terrifying; but we saw just how easily Ahsoka dealt with one in Tales Of The Jedi recently, so against the stronger Jedi, they are completely outmatched. Their lightsabres do all these tricks to try to make up that deficit, and occasionally they will work together; but more often than not they work solo full of false pride in their gifts; so whilse they are a useful tool for the Sith to use to hunt down the dregs of the lesser Jedi out there, they can never be truly a rival to Darth Vader, let alone Sidious, even if he is in his 70's at this point in the timeline. Interesting to hear your theory about Quinlan which hopefully you can bring up later in the year. I'm resubbed again from this month and will be here till the end of the year at the lest anyway as Jess runs through Rebels and the other Star Wars shows; so will look forward to seeing what you think they'll do with Vos. I know of the book about him and a familiar other character (that I HOPE DOESN'T GET MADE!!!), but don't know anything else about him as he just rubbed me up the wrong way in TCW so he never became a liked Jedi for me. Some may see Obi's actions as cowardly, but it takes strength to not fight here just as well. And he showed this in Clone Wars, whenever Maul got the better of him one way or another, Obi-Wan had no problem running and coming back to fight him when he was more himself, so wasn't fighting out of emotion. Its also to me, why he didn't straight out kill Vader on Mustafar, as striking down a foe in such a predicament would be acting out of negative emotion; so he let the force decide, and understandably thought he died there.

Thomas Corp
>>103276281

The thing was I never minded that Vader’s voice sounded noticeably aged in Rogue One because I was just SO happy to see Darth Vader on the big screen again with James Earl Jones still doing the voice. Sure, my brain registered the age in his voice, and it made sense as he was nearly eighty-six then, still, it got me emotional and made me happy to hear James still being the voice of Vader. I get how others may not have felt the same way. In any case, now we have the AI, and James’s permission, thus, as you say, the voice will live on. Yeah, the inquisitors are great. And yeah, I seriously doubt even if they teamed up, they’d be no match for the Emperor, despite his being around seventy-five years old I believe he is at the time of this series. We shall see about Quinlan as the year goes on. For me, it’s not a question of cowardice on Obi-Wan's part when facing Vader here. It's more overwhelming trauma and guilt. I don’t blame him in the slightest. I will say it’s genuinely heartbreaking to see Obi-Wan in that state. Yeah, you point out something I've said for years now. Specifically, your thought as to why Obi-Wan didn’t definitively finish Anakin off on Mustafar. I've argued much the same in that Obi-Wan was WAY too emotionally compromised in that moment that had he delivered a killing blow to Anakin it could have conceivably pushed him over the edge. And for better or for worse, he let the Force decide. I hold a similar thought concerning Yoda when he faced the Emperor in that he discovers he’s too emotionally compromised that he cannot defeat the Emperor without giving into his anger, hence the line, “Into exile, I must go. Failed, I have.”

Saltire
>>103276281

Oh yes I get that, and its like the cameo from the pilot episode of Bad Batch where it doesn't sound right for the character then, but I also wouldn't have that legendary character played by anyone else. Strangely though James Earl Jones sounded fine for the other thing on around the same time as Rogue One was being made; perhaps that was done a bit more synthetically then too. The Emperor, like Vader is almost a force of nature and is the latter character's biggest strength as a villain. Old Palpy wouldn't even need to get out of his glorious throne chair to take out an army of Inquisitors. Did you see the Bad Batch ep the other day when he appeared, I have to say it was brilliantly done, and did give me goosebumps. Both he and Vader are two of the greatest villains in all media. It will be difficult to replace them for other stories going forward. Oh I agree completely that Obi-Wan isn't a coward by not wanting to fight in his state, as he is so out of balance; but others might, which is why I remarked upon it. He is acting as a Jedi should, just like Kit Fisto did in the Clone Wars episode when his old padawan Nadhar was cut down in front of him by Grievous, as he knew going after Grievous then would risk him acting out of revenge and potentially unbalancing himself. And Obi-Wan has the added weight of being the guardian for Luke and Leia here, and would be risking all of their futures if he tries to fight Vader like this. I agree it is heartbreaking to see the strongest of all Jedi be like this, but after everything he went through he'd feel the guilt about it more than most, especially when his own padawan was the one who was the difference in taking out the Jedi Order, as much as the clones. We saw him in TCW go through so much yet stay strong, but all this trauma was the straw that broke the camel's back; and is why he is so broken. Yet we know that blinding strength and will is still there, he just needs to find it once again to eventually become one of the greatest Jedi the order ever had. Yes, it potentially could have been a Luke moment had Obi-Wan struck down Vader on Mustafar. Both Luke and him walk away from the precipice though as they can feel themselves teetering to using the darkside, which is so dangerous to a force-user. As for Yoda, I think he knows going into that fight with Sidious, its a rather foolish thing to do, but its a last throw of the dice and a big gamble that if pays off, would take out the snake's head. He has already seen the Jedi Order is doomed before all this, and acting like he does by fighting - out of fear - only plays into Sidious's hands, hence the 'failed I have' line.

Thomas Corp
>>103276281

Right, it’s just so great to hear the beloved actor again playing the beloved character that one is just happy to hear it to care too much about that it may not sound entirely right, though like I say, the brain on some level does register it. The scene of The Bad Batch that you mentioned, yes, I saw it, and it is presently my favorite scene of the show. My trifecta of favorite characters is the Emperor, Hannibal Lecter, and Darth Vader. My whole life, I've been a villains guy. I remember when I first saw The Force Awakens, seeing Snoke and Kylo Ren in place of the Emperor and Vader, and saying to myself, “Just ain’t the same.” I'm going to have a hard time with future Star Wars stories without the Emperor and Darth Vader, save for stories that take place before the main saga like Knights of the Old Republic. Well-spoken about Obi-Wan. That's a good take you have on Yoda facing the Emperor.

Saltire
>>103276281

"favourite scene of the show" - I had a feeling it might be! :D I was quite interested in Kylo Ren for the Force Awakens, but once he kills Snoke and goes all emo-kid, I lost interest (which is a shame, speaking about acting, as Adam Driver gave it his all in these films). And yeah, Snoke I couldn't connect with as a bad guy either, even if he was portrayed by Kino after he got out of that prison on Narkina 5! :P [Jess don't read this part!!] Lets see what they do with the blue guy as he could be something different, and a potentially great villain - if they go down that line with him...