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Tales of the Jedi 1x01&1x02 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-01-10 14:52:28
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Jenny Chalek

Thanks for this! I love this series!

Ryan

The first episode was originally going to be about Plo Koon discovering Ahsoka, but then Filoni decided it should be a mother/daughter story to start making up for the severe lack of those in the franchise.

Anonymous

As I commented on youtube, this was a most lovely reaction, Jess. Start by talking about the Ahsoka episode. It was intriguing seeing how it’s discovered she is force sensitive. Yes, most interesting the custom of taking Ahsoka along on the hunt when she’s a baby, and like you observed, the reasons why. I share your curiosity and desire for Star Wars to deep dive into the matter of the Jedi’s recruitment/adoption methods. Because like you say, it seems odd that everyone would have the exact same response, particularly as every kid is different. Now onto the second episode. And this is something I knew about this show going into it, that we would explore in a visual medium, some of the backstory of the beloved Count Dooku. And let me simply say that the fact that you did not put two and two together about Dooku’s identity until the credits did not bother me in the slightest, and I'm saying this as someone who has Dooku in my top five favorite Star Wars characters, and my top ten favorite characters of anything. Also, to your defense, Dooku’s name is never said in the episode. And the absence of Dooku’s magnificent beard does throw you off some. I relish any and all material that delves into the master and apprentice relationship between Count Dooku and Qui-Gon Jinn. I love the voice work of Micheál Richardson, the son of Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon. And Corey Burton continues to be excellent as the voice of Dooku. As I see Ryan has commented Corey wanted to do a voice that sounded more akin to Michael York, but Filoni convinced him to continue with his normal Dooku voice. It's neat how I hear the voice and it sounds like Corey pitching his voice to sound closer to Sir Christopher Lee around the time when he first portrayed Dracula in 1958. Yes, a major highlight of the episode is the parallels of the Senator being described as formerly good and having lost his way, and how it portends Dooku’s future of becoming the Sith Lord, Darth Tyranus. I loved your reaction to when Dooku utilizes the force choke and has the line, “Corruption like yours must be eradicated.” It’s great how the look on Dooku’s face in that moment says, “I gave you the chance of aiding me willingly, but you have elected the way of PAIN!” It is difficult to say what would have happened if Qui-Gon had not successfully intervened. You had such excellent thoughts and comments about the Dark Side of the Force. Yes, it is often comparable to drug use/addiction to drugs. It is like a poison in the blood stream. Lucas has always likened it to being like a cancer of the Force. It is as you say, once you’ve used it, it becomes exceedingly difficult to not keep doing so. Compounded by there often sprouts a voice in your head that encourages it, by saying just how good it felt to give in and embrace the Dark Side. That's the insidious nature of the Dark Side, it provides a hell of a rush, but comes at a terrible cost. I reiterate, this reaction was most lovely and very much appreciated, Jess. I can’t wait to see more.

Ryan
>>99326956

It was especially neat when Lee and Burton played mirror images of the same guy (sort of, because the mythology is a huge mess that no one understands) in Kingdom Hearts 2.

Anonymous

This series is more about visual story telling, sometimes the things that aren't said carry the most meaning. These are essentially tone-poems, that the first episode with adorable infant Ahsoka encapsulates. "you must face death Ahsoka, don't fear it." No, she never does unlike a Sith, or her master. Even as an infant, what a boss she is, taming and riding that huge sabre-tooth tiger. If you listen to the sound when Ahsoka touches the nose of the beastie, you can hear the sound of the force emitting from her, calming the beastie down. This is the same sound they use elsewhere to denote more subtle force moments. "Jedi... Ahsoka is Jedi." - I have a theory on Ahsoka's eventual fate, and is that line confirming it for me? Can't lie, that line about Qui-Gon being 'a far wiser man than I' from Dooku hit me. Knowing what he becomes is all the more sadder now, a disposable tool to bring around Palpatine's grand plan for unlimited power; especially since Qui-Gon will essentially become a force ghost that will end up saving the galaxy. Qui-Gon thinks outside the box as we see he learns this from Dooku, as the latter sees the corruption already happening with the Republic and how closely tied the Jedi are to it. Qui-Gon I think we can see now, takes the best traits of Dooku to help him become the Jedi he did. Your thoughts about learning more about Dooku are echoed her by the rest of us, since this was the first time we saw him outside of being a Sith, so its fascinating watching his story with the Jedi and Qui-Gon. Vanessa Marshall is back in the second episode, good to see her involved with Star Wars once more; you will hear her a lot if you cover Rebels Jess (fingers crossed!), as she plays a now iconic character. On your topics about parents of force-sensitives, I know we have been through all this before, but I'm with you that each family will react differently and some will not want their kids to go with the Jedi. The Jedi Order won't force it and leave them be to stay with their family, but they may be monitored as they mature; however most I think would just become regular people as they would be untrained and lose their connection to the force. I think we can see here that Ahsoka's parents wouldn't have any issue when Plo Koon comes for Ahsoka, since they seem spiritual people, and realise Ahsoka was given to them by the force for a reason, and how special she is, they'd see that she would realise her potential and help others by becoming a Jedi. As for using darkside powers as a Jedi, well we saw Luke force choke a Gamorrean Guard in Jabba's Palace in Return Of The Jedi, and use the darkside to defeat Vader later. He was able to come back from that, but he was on the precipice. As long as a Jedi accepts what they have done, trains and listens to their Jedi teachings, they will be fine. However it is a slippery slope, and the drug analogy isn't far off I'd say, as we saw with Anakin that he first uses it to get Ahsoka out of a bind, but over the course of the war begins to use it more and more, and becomes increasingly unbalanced, especially when he lies all throughout the war about his marital status and his feelings and that he won't ask himself the hard questions needed by not listening to his teachings. Thats when it becomes dangerous, and that there is this cliff waiting for darksiders to fall into, in which they can't escape from, so fall further into the abyss and darkness, such that they end up killing kids like psycho Ani eventually does.

Anonymous
>>99319230

Ah I wondered how we didn't see Plo by the end. Makes sense.

Anonymous
>>99326956

Haha loved the Saruman quote, nicely done Thomas! And yes the darkside provides a quick fix for force-users, but "it's a trap" ready to ensnare if the person doesn't listen to their Jedi teachings, then thats when it becomes dangerous. And yes Corey Burton is magnificent as always. For me he is the best VA Lucasfilm Animation uses.

Anonymous
>>99326956

Haha, I was hoping someone would catch the Saruman line. Yeah, Corey Burton is amazing.

Anonymous
>>99350945

Yeah, there’s a greater emphasis on visual storytelling in this. It kind of feels like a marriage of Filoni’s Clone Wars and Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars, albeit with slightly more dialogue than Tartakovsky would utilize. I’m completely with Jess on wanting to see more variety of reactions to when a child shows force-sensitivity. The line of Qui-Gon being a wiser man than Dooku is quite an excellent line, and it’s a nice call-forward to when Qui-Gon says it to Obi-Wan in Phantom Menace. I still maintain that Qui-Gon is the standard that Jedi should strive to be in that he adheres to the Jedi Code yet recognizes when there are situations when thinking outside the box are necessary. I also think with Luke a key thing is he acknowledges the darkness. And like you say, he accepts it, and refuses to let it corrupt him. Yes, a most slippery slope. There's a spiritual element that’s not unlike dealing with depression. On a rational level you know that what you are having to contend with isn’t real, yet your brain is so clouded by the fog of darkness that you can’t see the light through the clouds.

Anonymous
>>99350945

Ah yeah Tartakovsky's Clone Wars, Jess would love C-3P0 even more in that, he is at his absolute best in that series. And Fordo, what a legend, almost the equal of Rex. Always remember the Anakin v Ventress fight on Yavin IV in that series, where they played about with the colour of the lightsabres as they fought, and to start with Anakin is blazed in blue, but by the light of the red gas giant at the end, he's very much in the red. Love it. They play about with light and shadow beautifully here, especially in episode 4, and the Jedi Tree tells a story too as it did in Yoda's TCW arc, but we'll get to that. I had forgotten Qui-Gon said that to Obi-Wan in Phantom as well. I don't know the scripts of the prequels near as much as I do the original trilogy; so yeah that is a great call-back indeed. It would be something to explore about how the Jedi recruit, especially how Luke for example as we see him try to build his school (which we know what happens of course, but its something that could indeed be covered there, especially since the vast majority of the galaxy thought the Jedi Order dead for near 30 years at that point). Its a pretty good connection you make about the dark side and those in depression. We I'm sure have all had bouts of that over our lives and it can be difficult to see through the fog into the clear path. Darksiders see nothing but the darkness and use their negative emotions to fuel the power they seek through it. Some can briefly see the light once more (Ventress? Anakin, Ben Solo) but it usually costs them heavily as they have went too far along the path of the darkside.

Anonymous
>>99350945

Makes me think I should rewatch Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars. I haven’t seen it in so long. It'd be great to sit down and watch it again. And if I don’t get to it right away, in the meantime, I am enjoying The Bad Batch, especially today’s episode. Jess would absolutely love the scenes of 3PO in Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars, for sure. The original trilogy and the prequel trilogy are about evenly matched for how of the dialogue is burned into my brain. The sequel trilogy and the newer shows and films, less so, though my favorite moments do stand out. Yes, Luke trying to build his school would be most fertile ground for exploring the myriad of potential reactions that would be had in response to Jedi recruitment.

Anonymous
>>99350945

I rewatched it on Blind Wave's channel the other month, was a lot of fun. Completely over the top, but sometimes, thats how I want my Star Wars, it doesn't have to be as heavy as Andor all the time. Bad Batch today was indeed excellent. I think this season will shape up to have some significant moments for the clones, now that the Empire has a foothold in the galaxy. I have rewatched the prequels fairly recently as I think we have spoken about here since I have been a sub to Jess these last few months; but I think it may be time to give the sequels another go too. Seen them through twice, but want to check them out once more.