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Star Wars: Episode III "Revenge of the Sith" Part 1 Full Rewatch! (Patreon)

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2022-12-06 13:45:01
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Star Wars Episode 3 - Revenge of the Sith (Part 1)

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Ryan

Thanks to those couple throwaway lines indicating the opening battle was the first time Anakin and Grievous had ever met, the Clone Wars writers were put in a tricky position of having to constantly keep them apart throughout the show. It’s pretty fun to see them struggle with it.

Anonymous

I confess that posting the rewatch/reaction into two parts is helpful to me as it helps me space my comments out because I have a LOT to say about this movie. I'll try not to let my loquacity get the better of me, but I can’t make any promises about that. I'll start by saying I love your mom’s Darth Vader necklace. My first time seeing this movie in the theater remains my favorite cinema going experience. Yeah, like you say right off the bat a lot happens. I too was shocked by the early demise of Count Dooku. Similar to what you said, going into this, I knew it was most probable he would be killed at some point in the film; this was a topic of discussion and debate with friends and family in the three years between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Sir Christopher Lee did such a superb job conveying the horror and betrayal in Dooku’s final moments. I see that Ryan commented that fans were a bit upset that Dooku was killed as early as he was. Me, I was just happy that in the final chapter of the trilogy, we got to see the fate of Sir Christopher’s character in the theater instead of having to wait a year to see it in an extended edition dvd unlike a certain other trilogy that came out in the early 2000’s. Regarding Grievous, first, yes, as others have commented, this was his and Anakin’s first real meeting. And, yes, it is most satisfying seeing him get his just desserts. Much as I do have a soft spot for Grievous, I admit that his death scene is so great to see, particularly after seeing him run and escape as often as he did in The Clone Wars. Your reaction to Obi-Wan killing Grievous was so great. I loved how happy you were to see Cody. I vividly remember the crowd reactions in the theater when we were on the Wookie planet of Kashyyyk; everyone went nuts at that part. And I loved seeing how excited you were at that part of the film. You raise many excellent points about seeing the situation from both sides about Anakin and the Jedi council. Anakin has shown his merit time and time again that it does make sense that his being denied master would not be something he would be happy about. And as Anakin not incorrectly observes, never has there been an instance where someone becomes a member of the council without being granted the rank of master. By the same token, his immediate reaction to being told that he will not be made master is to have moment of being a touch insubordinate and churlish, thus showing he’s not ready for the responsibility of being a Jedi Master. Yet, as you noted, the council as a whole does for the most part just brush the matter under the rug without discussing it further, thus sending a very mixed message. Then there’s Anakin’s scenes with Padmé which are simultaneously so sweet and so heartbreaking because we know that they won’t have a happy ending. You raised the question of why Anakin does not go to Obi-Wan for help, I think the reason primarily being so that his marriage to Padmé stays secret. Though Obi-Wan, and most everyone else for that matter knows or at least suspects that Anakin and Padmé are seeing each other, a blind man could tell you that one, Obi-Wan deliberately has kept himself in the dark about any potential marriage between Anakin and Padmé. That way he has plausible deniability if the council ever directly asks him about it. Therefore, if Anakin actually confided in Obi-Wan about the visions and by extension his marriage to Padmé, the pool of plausible deniability dries up, fast. I KNEW that the final scene that Anakin and Obi-Wan in the first half of the film would be a scene that would get you right in the heart. It would have been nice, I won’t lie, if the film had ended there.

Anonymous

Now to talk about one of the biggest highlights of the film, if not the biggest, and that is Palpatine. Ian McDiarmid is already consistently brilliant in anything that he’s in, Palpatine being some of his most notable work. In this film, Ian gives, I believe, his greatest performance as Palpatine. The way that he slowly but surely lets his more sinister side show, as well as how he conveys the mask of Palpatine deliberately slipping at certain points and lets the face of Darth Sidious shine through is insanely well done. A standout sequence where this is on full display is the opera scene where he beguiles Anakin with the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise. This scene is notable in that even in the time when the prequel trilogy was less than well received, that scene was celebrated. I keep maintaining that Ian should have at the very least gotten an Oscar nomination for that scene alone. I knew that I was right to make sure that my coffee was set to the side during that part of your reaction, because when you deduced the identity of Plagueis's apprentice by saying to Palpatine, “Was that you, buttercup?” if I was drinking my coffee when you were saying that, that coffee would have been sprayed everywhere. As it is, I had to pause the video because I was laughing too hard, and saying, “Jess, you got to issue a warning sometimes when you say things like that! Jesus Christ, that was funny as shit!” At the end of that sequence, I quote the one meme from WandaVision that circulated, which was, “Do you hear that sound? It's every screenwriter in the world whispering a reverent “FUCK” under their breath.” Also, note the fact that Palpatine does not have his moment of revelation until Yoda is off on Kashyyyk and Obi-Wan is off on Utapau. That's not a coincidence. It is a shame, looking back on it, that there’s no Munster’s style theme song entitled “It’s Been Palpatine All Along” to accompany said revelation. Then there’s the topic of the score. You mentioned how Hans Zimmer’s score for The Lion King is your favorite film score. The score that John Williams composed for this film is both my favorite of his work, and my favorite film score, period. Highlights of the first half are the battle sequences, especially during the opening and Obi-Wan and Grievous’s final duel. Grievous himself gets an impressive theme. Then there’s the piece entitled Palpatine’s Teachings which plays over the opera sequence and when Palpatine reveals his true nature to Anakin. And then there’s the haunting piece entitled Padmé’s Ruminations which plays over the last scene of this first part. As you say, end it on C-3PO allowing a feeling of light heartedness to be felt as we close out this first part. Speaking of 3PO, I was delighted by your reaction to seeing him again for the first time since the two-parter of him and R2 which got uploaded on my birthday back in April. I know we still have part two to get to, still, Im saying this now. You're rewatch/reaction to this is one of the very best videos that you have ever done. I mean that wholeheartedly, Jess. I am SO looking forward to next week for part two where we experience the full power of the Dark Side.

Ryan
>>97044639

Anakin’s feeling of betrayal also hits a lot harder knowing the Council had no problem throwing his padawan under the bus the second she became politically inconvenient, leaving her so traumatized that she left even after being exonerated.

Anonymous
>>97044639

Yeah, that arc, along with the arc where Obi-Wan faked his death really goes a long way to adding weight to Anakin’s feelings of betrayal, and the feelings that the council does not trust him.

Anonymous

I can't believe you've finally got to this movie, amazing!!! I don't mind you splitting it. I probably shouldn't be watching it yet though as I'm only on Season 2 of clone wars.

Ryan
>>97050713

Well, all of Clone Wars only came after this movie.

Ryan
>>97044674

No matter how much anyone hates the prequels, they'll definitely still say John Williams was as on top of his game as always, especially with Duel of the Fates and Battle of the Heroes which instantly became just as iconic as any of his work from the original trilogy.

Anonymous
>>97030898

One thing that doesn't quite work is when Grevious says to Obi-Wan "I have been trained in your Jedi ways", like its the first time they've met, when we saw they battled dozens of times in the animation. Its not a biggie though and TCW of course was worked on after this film.

Anonymous
>>97044639

In leaving Ahsoka became a greater Jedi than Anakin ever could - she made the hard decisions like a good Jedi must; something Anakin was never prepared to do due to his ego.

Anonymous
>>97044674

Funnily enough I've been playing Lego Star Wars and started with the prequels, and was loving the music throughout, forgetting Williams almost tops his original trilogy work with it.

Anonymous

Going to make a giant edit of my own for both parts when you have them posted Jess, then I'll settle down with a nice dram or three, and go through them. I rewatched the first two prequels the other month after not seeing them in years, but never rewatched Ep3; so keen to see it again with your thoughts and reactions!

Anonymous
>>97030898

By the same token, Obi-Wan does have an under reaction to Grievous's boast, which seems weird if it was in fact the first time that he ever faced Grievous in single combat. Their repeated encounters help with that, and in fairness, Grievous is quite a showboat who likes to brag. One thing that is a shame is that Obi-Wan has a crowning moment of sass which got cut, though it is featured in the novelization. The line being, “Oh, you must mean Darth Tyranus. What a curious coincidence. I trained the man who killed him.”

Anonymous
>>97066098

I admit that since I was a kid when the prequel trilogy was released, there is nostalgia that causes me to be biased. Still, it’s amazing how well Revenge of the Sith especially holds up. And yeah, when both parts are uploaded, I'm picking a night to watch the full reaction/rewatch; it is going to be so much fun.

Ryan
>>97066098

The whole plot structure of the prequels is a fantastic story, it's just some really specific parts of the execution that were botched to hell. Just look at the opening recap of the Obi Wan show, which distills the most important few minutes of all three films and is utterly amazing to watch (and kind of means no one ever has to watch the full prequels again.

Anonymous
>>97030898

Another thing is at the start, when Anakin says to Dooku "my powers have doubled since the last time we met" - what, last week? That was quick Ani! :P

Anonymous
>>97066098

Yeah that is the thing, George really did a great job with the world-building in the prequels. With the increase in technology at the time from the OT, the prequels give a greater sense of scale for the galaxy, the politics, worlds and species within SW. The Rebels were always being chased down in the OT and were on obscure Outer Rim worlds, sparsely populated, so moving things to the Core Worlds, really fleshed things out well. He also gave his team a solid framework in which to build better shows and stories on from. It was his direction and execution of some key scenes, which let the prequels down a bit. Sure, watching TCW now makes the prequels better; but for as much as I love Star Wars, I just cannot watch the last act of Attack Of The Clones now; its all just so poorly done. I have more joy watching the sequels - which is saying something - than watching that film. Thankfully, on the whole, Revenge Of The Sith is solid, and great fun, especially when Thomas's hero, old Palpy starts having the time of his life in the second half! :D

Anonymous
>>97066098

My brother and I have often discussed the prequels, and we generally agree that the biggest weakness is certain dialogue scenes. Or at least there are scenes where the dialogue is on the clunkier side, thus bringing things down a bit, quality-wise. In fairness, Lucas has freely admitted dialogue is not his strong suit. My brother and I sing the praises of the areas you mentioned, the sense of scale, the politics, the world building, all of it holds up remarkably well. Of the three films, Revenge of the Sith holds up the best, in my opinion. And yeah, good ol’ Palpy doth have a most grand and glorious time of his life in the second half of the film. I had a good laugh reading that part of your comment, by the way.

Anonymous
>>97030898

Yeah, I love the jokes in response to Anakin’s line. Like Grievous, I can excuse it as Anakin trying to sound tough and Count Dooku being unimpressed. In fact, you could even read the expression on Dooku’s face, specifically the smile on his face as being something along the lines of, “Who the hell do you think you’re kidding here, buddy? We just saw each other last week.”

Anonymous
>>97066098

Phantom Menace isn't bad still. Having rewatched it recently, the CGI looks in the main great, until they get to the grassland battle between the droids and the Gungans, but its fine for the time; at the start though, it really holds up well. Sith looks fantastic, especially in the opening shot with the Battle Of Coruscant and as the camera follows the Jedi Fighters, before zooming in on Obi-Wan and Anakin. Its just the last part of Clones in which everything looks like a cartoon - heck Landing At Point Rain looked better, AND gave us a better Battle Of Geonosis in season 2 of Clone Wars, than AOTC. Generally I'm not one to have issue with CGI good or bad - heck Babylon 5 is my fave sci-fi series of all time, and most of the effects for that was done on a Commodore Amiga! - but that last part really lets it all fall apart for me with Episode II, aside from the acting, the painful dialogue and the plot holes. As for which prequels hold up; Phantom could do with a heavy edit, especially the stuff on Tatooine, and less - far less - or even better still, no Jar-Jar! And apart from the execution of scenes, its fine and sets the pieces in motion for what will become the downfall of the Republic and the Jedi Order. Sith really gets going in the second part and from then on its a hoot, well until Plo Koon gets killed, which no-one wants to see! McDiarmid is hamming it all up beautifully and having loads of fun playing Sidious in his element, and there is real emotion as Obi-Wan duels it out with recently appointed Darth Vader. Its always worth a watch.

Anonymous
>>97066098

I remember the year Phantom Menace hit twenty discussing it with my brother and cousins, and our only real complaint was Jar Jar. Otherwise, we all agreed that it was good. I chimed in at one point with, “Yeah, Jar Jar notwithstanding, Phantom Menace holds up well.” Though I do have a soft spot for Attack of the Clones, again, nostalgia does factor into it some, and I personally don’t have much issue with the cgi in the last third of the film, I do recognize your point about the cgi not looking the best, and that is a fair point. Watching it again when Jess did the rewatch, I even noted a few times that the cgi is showing its age some. Primary issue that I have with Clones twenty years later is the romance subplot, more specifically the dialogue of the romance subplot; Lucas really could have used some help in that area. When I was eleven, it didn’t bother me; now in my thirties, I agree with people when the criticisms come up. Seeing Sith again, I marveled at how well the cgi for that holds up seventeen years later. Yeah, it’s the second half of Sith that reaches phenomenal heights. I keep bouncing around with the emotions in that it’s amazing, narratively speaking, to see the Sith be victorious and how dark the story becomes as a result. It’s devastating to see the heartbreaking scenes like with Plo, Padmé, and/or Obi-Wan's confrontation with Anakin. And in the middle of all of it is Ian McDiarmid going above and beyond in going full tilt hamtastic as the Emperor, as well as John Williams firing on all cylinders with the score. It's great stuff.