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Andor 1x09 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2022-11-02 18:50:40
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2023-04

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Andor 1x09 Full Reaction

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Paul Mason

Another great episode of a great show. It was stellar throughout but I want to shout out Andy Serkis' acting. The scene where he tells the shift it was just a rumour. His voice is as confident and commanding as it always is but at the same time you can see the doubt in his eyes. Phenomenal performance. I was fascinated by the Syril-Dedra scene because I really can't tell where that's going. He comes on so strong and I feel like she's the last person that would work with. I think she responds to power and whilst he's passionate he's not powerful, more of a desperate, creepy stalker. But maybe if he rises in the Empire despite her and they meet again...

Ryan

I'm loving how this show is just running with the same point made by Benecio Del Toro's character in Last Jedi, that anyone who claims they're "not political" is probably just a closeted fascist.

Thomas Corp

Yeah, a major highlight of both these last two episodes and the show in general has been showcasing how terrifying the Empire is. Specifically, how terrifying it is in a down to earth, mundane, human way that could believably happen in the real world. It is horrible what Bix is subjected to. I loved Dedra in the interrogation scenes. Denise Gough was mesmerizing. Her body language read like a shark circling its prey, complete with her even baring teeth at various times. Lovely to again see the Senate chamber, though there was a tiny moment of mild disappointment that we didn’t get an appearance from Ian McDiarmid as the Emperor. I even checked when they had something of a close-up on his podium, and went, “Ah! His podium is empty! Goddamn it!” I just so badly want to see Ian show up as the Emperor in this show. Maybe it’ll never happen, but hey, a man can hope, dream, and pray. Can’t he? I’m with you on continuing to live for the Mon Mothma scenes. I shared your surprise about Vel being Mon’s cousin. I also was surprised when her driver mentioned a cousin, and said, “First I've heard of that.” Yes, a great showcasing how Mon and Vel are each having to be highly cautious each in their own way. Mon’s husband, Perrin, I believe his name is, is getting on my very last nerve. It’s at this point that Karn feels like he’d be right at home in a Coen brothers' film. His mom is certainly a piece of work to the point where I half expect Norman Bates to call Karn up and say, “I always say, “A boy’s best friend is his mother.” but I think you should get as far away from your mom as possible.” The scene where Karn confronts Dedra, and essentially admits to stalking her had me going, “Ok, pal! Now I KNOW you’ve got a screw loose! You're making Barney Fife look like Joe Friday, and if you keep it up, even Frank Burns is going to look reasonably intelligent by comparison!” The prison scenes were anxiety inducing, once again. Diego Luna is really doing great at showcasing how he’s changing from being out for himself to where he will ultimately end up. Likewise, Andy Serkis is proving excellent as he always is as Kino, particularly his conveyance of Kino’s growing doubts and fears of what’s going on in the prison. And it was such a powerful final scene of Cassian and Kino seeing Ulaf be killed, their discovery of the truth, and their committing to work together to escape. My favorite part of it was how Cassian and Kino didn’t even verbalize any agreement. Cassian simply asks, “How many guards on each level?” and Kino doesn’t even bat an eyelash before replying, “Never more than twelve.” The cold fury that Andy put into both his voice and expression was fantastic, as was your reaction to that moment. Now, before this prison break happens, they need to make sure they got the right guys for the job. They'll need James Garner to scrounge up the equipment. Donald Pleasence to forge the proper paperwork. Charles Bronsan to dig the tunnels with John Leyton being there to help when the claustrophobia proves too much. Steve McQueen will provide the transportation. And to make sure it all goes smoothly we’ll have William Russell running security for the whole shebang. Oh, this episode, and your reaction to it was just so great. As I said on youtube, it really has been meaning so much to share this show with you, Jess. I’m looking forward to continuing this most delightful journey.

Ryan
>>94836557

Rewatching for this reaction, I realized the deceptively complicated job the show's crew had with the torture scene. The story they'd set up requires Bix to break and reveal everything very quickly, but it also can't happen in a way that leaves us thinking of her as a traitor. So they come up with a torture method so horrific that it leaves us in no doubt she wouldn't last long, aided a ton by the performance of how much pain the helmet instantly causes.

Kelvin

I picked the wrong week to catch up with the show complete. Poor Bix

Saltire

Its been a slow and deliberate build-up with the Empire, showing how they work and are using their resources in 'restoring order'; but here we finally see the banality of their evil. Dedra and the sociopathic Dr. Gorst using the screams of dying children as a torture method, the frying of that whole block in Cassian's prison and the mundanity of killing a pilot and covering it up to keep tabs on the upcoming power station heist. I mentioned Dedra being like a shark last episode, the way she bares her teeth (and the actress is indeed terrific), and here she uses fishing terminology to bait her prisoners into telling her what she wants. For a bit we have been almost siding with her and her issues getting respected in the ISB, but we see just how much of a true imperial she is by going to these lengths to uncover what the rebels are up to. Whilst these imperials are not Darth Sidious, Vader or Tarkin, they are showing that the Empire is built of people in Palpatine's own image. They are 'insidious'. I get so uncomfortable watching the prison scenes, its like what you hear about going on in the more unscrupulous corners of the world, and trying to imagine what it must be like in these places, is just overwhelming, terrifying and claustrophobic. Its an honest question about the droids, but I'm with you Sesska, I think this is about control. Its a way of getting some of the populations of worlds out of the way, and turning them from potential problems, into assets for the Empire. We hear about this in Solo (and elsewhere) about Wookies being shunted off Kashyyyk to work in the Spice Mines of Kessel, and being literally worked to death as we are seeing here. Its a way of getting slave labour on the cheap, without needing to maintain people all that much, unlike with droids; and it works. It is very engaging seeing regular folk, who aren't Jedi, powerful force-users, or elite bounty hunters and Mandalorian's, try to do their bit to fight back; or in the case of what we see with the ISB, seeing regular people take part willingly in undertaking such evil for this regime. Didn't see Vel being related to Mon Mothma, but I do like her. I think we may find she is even more complex than what we are seeing. She's becoming a very interesting character. And Mon's conversations with Luthen and now Tay, they are telling her if she wants to do this, she is going to have to get her hands dirty. We'll see where that leads, as Mon has always been a shining light of hope and good for decades with the fanbase. I personally think they have underused Syril this show so far, but they might be doing the groundwork so that he'll become a chief antagonist in season 2.

Saltire
>>94836557

I saw the lights on the central podium in the Senate and wondered if we'd see old Palpy too, or even Mas Amedda. Alas, they have more pressing matters than listening to Mon Mothma apparently. Funny you should bring up The Great Escape, Thomas, since we were speaking about The Professionals the other day, as Gordon Jackson who played the head of CI5 was in it, as Richard Attenborough's right-hand man.

Thomas Corp
>>94836557

Depending on the timing of events, I could see the Emperor being preoccupied with matters elsewhere. It is strange, however, that Mas Amedda was absent as well. As was Sly Moore, come to think of it. Yeah, that’s right about Gordon Jackson as MacDonald I believe his character’s name was in The Great Escape.

Thomas Corp
>>94919688

Dedra is rising in the ranks of favorite characters who have debuted in this show. I do love a great Imperial character. And although Dedra’s not at the level of the Emperor, Darth Vader, or Grand Moff Tarkin, she’s proving to be just as terrifying and wonderful to watch in her own way. Her fishing analogies were effectively chilling and made me think of Schubert’s The Trout. I love how the show’s focused on the banal and mundane aspects of the Empire’s villainy. I agree that the aspect of control is why the Empire isn’t using droids all that much. Since droids are programmed to obey, it deprives the Empire of satisfaction that comes from the breaking of people’s wills. Yeah, it should be interesting seeing Mon Mothma reach the point where she’s going to have to start engaging in somewhat more unsavory acts going forward. With Karn, it feels like he’s being built up for something, likely as you posit, a larger role in the second season. He has my attention if nothing else.

Saltire
>>94919688

I could hear The Trout going round my head as I read that, much like poor Bix and those screams, eurghhh, just horrible. I wonder if a Jedi would be able to tune that out since they are supposed to be resilient in the main to torturous methods (though we know that doesn't always work, but we'll get to all that later when Sesska has seen other shows). For the scene in the ISB where they are planting the death and cover-up of the pilot, to uncover the power station heist; I note they used the Major (Anton Lesser, I don't have his name off hand, something like Partigast? (sic)) and not Yularen, as so far what we know of him - though it hasn't been shown here - is that I don't think he'd be up for that plan. Dedra has been a great antagonist so far though. You almost kind of root for her at times, though this episode showed me why we shouldn't! Its a bit like in Clone Wars with Palpatine doing all his little knowing looks and clenching of hands, as his plans come to fruition, I kind of love it, even though I shouldn't as stuff like this is the end result! Mothma's immediate family fascinates me. We know where Mon ends up, but I wonder what will happen with hubby and daughter? I'm hoping they get Syril's real story moving soon though, perhaps episode 11 after the prison escape next week. You can't take your eyes off him when he is on screen, and I want to see where he'll go.

Thomas Corp
>>94919688

It would be interesting to see if a Jedi could resist the torture techniques employed in this episode. I would think likely not, or at least not after prolonged exposure as it would likely wear even the most well-trained Jedi down. Yeah, difficult to see Yularen being on board with the one plan, whereas Major Partagaz, from what we’ve seen of him, he’d have no compunction about carrying out said plan. I’m loving Anton Lesser as Partagaz. My whole life, ever since I was a little kid, I've always gravitated towards villainous characters as they were always the more fascinating to me. Thus, I’m familiar with the feeling of kind of rooting for the villains and loving them, even though at the same time, the rational part of my brain recognizes they are the villains, and I'm really not supposed to be such big fans of them as much as I am.

Saltire
>>94919688

Actors will say the same thing, being the hero is boring, the good stuff is when there is a juicy bad guy to play. Look at Alan Rickman in two of his more famous roles as the Sheriff of Nottingham and Hans Gruber. Sure Kevin Costner and Bruce Willis were the leads in those films, but the fans remember Rickman's performances more. And lets be honest, though we love Luke here, his is the traditional heroes journey and Luke's character only became truly interesting, in the much maligned The Last Jedi.