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Dragon Huntress

There are many torn opinions about this episode, understandably so, but imo this entire Clover/Qrow/Tyrian sequence can be explained in two mere words ... emotional turmoil. People tend to shit on Clover, but there is reason he is the leader of the Ace Ops. He is one of Ironwoods best and loyal soldiers, so of course he would prioritize the one that his general is currently framing as the "bigger threat". No to mention, I recall that the writers stated during the episodes commentary that Clover was confident enough to deal with both of them due to his good luck semblance, so while having good luck seems like a powerful ally, it can just be as fatal as having bad luck. Qrow was put in a nearly impossible situation. On one hand he wanted revenge against Tyrian, on the other he needed to deal with Clover. He realized he couldn't fight both of them, so he took the safest option to "team up" with the one that will temporarily help him. And even during that sequence, you can see that Qrow doesn't really do much to support Tyrian, he simply focused on Clover. Now with Tyrian, its a different story, because he was controlling this whole dilemma. From the start he was manipulating Qrow by giving him what he wants ... vengeance. At the same time, when they teamed up, Tyrian made sure to keep Qrow pinned against Clover by even using his tail to push Qrow directly into Clover. Its a small detail, but it shows how effectively Tyrian controlls the situation, until he got the chance to grab Qrows sword and kill Clover with it ... all while framing him as the murder for his demise. There is no real right or wrong in this situation imo. Just people who fell victim to their emotions

K

As you can imagine, this episode was quite divisive 😂. I have to agree with Bethany for the most part, you can see during the 1v1v1 fight that Clover does NOT relent in disrupting and trying to take down Qrow. Every time Qrow tries to go for Tyrian, Clover foils him and gets in the way. Of course it’s unwise to ally with Tyrian even temporarily, this was an outcome we all could have foreseen but I feel Qrow had little options in that moment. If everyone had listened to Qrow and gone to Atlas this never would’ve happened. Robin didn’t help by antagonising the situation though I understand her viewpoint and her anger. Just an all round mess, but I guess that’s what happens when the “good guys” turn on each other. As Qrow said, Clover could’ve just done the right thing instead of the thing he was told, but I suppose the ultimate blame falls to Ironwood.

Mrbluegrand

I agree that Clover could have handled it better but i wouldn't call him an idiot since he was left with such limited options thanks to both Robyn and Qrow. Imo all the blame falls on Robyn (or is it Robin idk) and in later part also Qrow. She literally shoots at him after he begs not to escalate it even further, FFS Qrow is even saying they should just do this and when they arrive at Atlas then speak to Ironwood. But no... lets start a fight in a small confined area while in the air, Oh and btw we have a psychotic killer just next to us urging you to do this. And after Clover gets the upper hand on Robyn then Qrow joins the fight saying "Fine", LIKE What? How is any of this Clovers fault? Moving on to the second part, this is what i meant he could have handled it better. Having that three man scuffle was not ideal but it was Qrow who purposely went to disable/shatter his aura! And I don't blame him for not trusting Qrow anymore, as he said when replying to Qrow after getting knocked down "Sometimes the right decision is the hardest to make, I trust James with my life! I wanted to trust you." And in the end he couldn't. And to reiterate this was basically just a house/temporary arrest since ironwood didn't want this plan to fail. They could just have TALKED with him if in fact they had any other suggestions or ideas to solve this crisis other than all perish. Ironwood do take in feedback, just not the "Don't do this" without any alternatives. I also want to point out that Qrow is one of my favorite characters in the show and has been since he was first introduced, as for Robin and Clover I've been a bit iffy. Your are more than welcome to have a different view on this. I simply wanted to stand up for some fictional characters. #JusticeforIronwood&Clover