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Star Wars Ep 8! WATCH ALONG (Patreon)

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2022-07-19 13:39:40
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2023-04
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I took a while on the intro for this one to really get into my expectations and such! 

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STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI WATCH ALONG!

This is "STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI WATCH ALONG!" by Shanelle Riccio on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

Comments

Jason Chirevas

Just to pick up on what Dan said above. I’ve been a devoted Star Wars fan since 1979, when, at age 5, I saw A New Hope during its re-release. I have and had zero of the feelings described above about the de-canonization of the Expanded Universe, and have taken all the Disney stuff as it’s come. Having done so, I think ROGUE ONE and THE LAST JEDI are better movies than RETURN OF THE JEDI, so there’s that. I’m not sure I wholly understand where all the toxicity comes from. Some of it is surely what Dan said above, at least in part. But there’s also been plenty of misogyny and racism hurled at the sequel trilogy actors. I also think there are many fans who have developed a proprietary attitude toward Star Wars, believing only they could — only they should — be in charge of what happens next, and anyone who’s been in those positions post-Lucas is only there through happenstance. Of course, many of these same people spent the aughts literally saying George Lucas raped their childhoods with the prequels so…🤷‍♂️

Paul Cox
>>87965410

Imagine I just inserted a Charles Foster Kane slow clap gif in this reply.

shanellericcio
>>87965410

more great context! thanks for helping me get the ~hate~ lol I think this has to be like how I hated the filmmakers for the Harry Potter movies, thinking I knew better how to change the books to films, and now -- I'm like they did a great streamlining them into film form

Dee Aitch

To answer a couple of questions you had: the red guys are analogous to the royal guard from Jedi. They were just bodyguards with more loyalty to Snoke than Kylo. The spaceships didn't split from the lightsaber splitting -- Holdo engaged lightspeed while pointing at the big ship, which means she rammed it at a really fast speed. I don't think anyone will have issue with the distance communication, as in Star Wars, we have Vader sensing Ben, and then in TESB there's literal distance communication between Luke and Leia. You mentioned you ratio of old to new was 60:40. There's a ton of hate out there for this film in particular. And while I'm sure there's some racism and misogyny fueling some of it, I think a large part of this is that these people are more like 90:10, and when faced with this film which took a whole new direction from what we've seen before they simply reacted badly. Also there's a Youtube review video as long as the movie itself that fuels this feeling even more. Me, I'm more of a 20:80 person. I thought it was extremely novel that we had a bad guy that wasn't a Palpatine son or lackey. I love that Rey was from nobodies instead of being a cloned twin sister of Luke. We had the kid with the broom at the end who basically says: the force is there for everyone in the universe, not just a certain family. With Lucas coming up with incestuous twist after twist the franchise had become far too insular. I absolutely love the visuals. I find the more slapstick humor to be fine (there was always humor in the original films, largely from Han). And the visuals are insanely beautiful (with a throne room fight scene worthy of Kill Bill). And I love Rose's line "That's how we're going to win -- not fighting what we hate, but saving what we love". That said there are some real issues with the film. The casino side quest is useless in advancing the plot any at all, just an excuse to proselytize "arms dealers are bad guys". The line about Rose punching her fist through this beautiful and horrible town is about as bad of a line as you can write. And having Holdo withhold information from her crew for zero reason is sitcom levels of lazy writing. Please don't take to heart the comments. Your valuation of the movie in your own eyes is as valid as anyone else's opinions on the film. Personally I love this film, and consider it the best non-original-trilogy numbered film ("Rogue One" is better). Just be aware that there's a lot of online hate for this one and there will be some unnecessary comments made.

Jason Chirevas
>>88046525

Two(ish) things… I think the Canto Bight sequence is too long, and a bit indulgent, but I think it serves a few purposes. First, it shows there are parts of the galaxy completely unconcerned with the wars we’ve spent eight movies watching, and a lot of that world is a bloated, gilded orgy of excess. And another part of it, likely the much larger part, is poor people to which no one pays any attention. I love Rose’s anger throughout that sequence because she and her sister were two of those poor nobodies who dared to think they could have some effect on what was happening beyond them by joining the Resistance. And then Paige died because it, and Rose ended up in a place built on that bloated excess with someone, Finn, who couldn’t understand any of it. Plus, that sequence set up the broom kid which, again, could have, should have, been the beginning of a lot interesting stuff. And, yes, it’s not a bad point, especially in Star Wars, to say hey, you know there’s industry enabling all this endless war, by the way. Pretty bold, in fact, in a Hero’s Journey story made principally from 30s pulp. Last thing. Shan, not sure if there’s any trepidation putting this reaction on YT but there needn’t be. You’re a voice in the discourse now. That’s legit. You’re also someone coming to these movies from a different, fresh perspective. It’s a good thing for Star Wars, and especially THE LAST JEDI, to be seen this way, as I think your evaluation is probably fairer than most. That’s going to be important as the Skywalker saga passes further into history as it’s — sadly, shockingly — now destined to do.

Nick of Time
>>88046525

I mostly agree. When I say I hate the sequel trilogy, its largely because of IX; VII and VIII I actually really enjoyed.

Jason Chirevas
>>88046525

There are aspects of Ep. IX that are fun….and they are trampled to death by a cascade of horrible decisions and storytelling.