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Chollop 20 -The Stock Act (Patreon)

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2022-10-07 11:09:51
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Just politicians doing politics.

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dan from south jersey

Dave I know this is off topic but I am asking you to please root for my beloved Philadelphia Phillies in the playoffs since the Giants are out. Thank you for your cooperation.

Anonymous

Man. And people bitch on twitter when you're a doomer. Like, we don't even want to be, but increasingly I think people who aren't doomers these days are crazy

Madison Watson

It's this kind of shit that lead me to Marxism, and the world makes a hell of a lot more sense now ☭

Thomas Cain

Can we talk about Giorgia Meloni? The rhetoric trying to hide her fascism or excuse it sounds like what we’re gonna be hearing everyday soon

Mary Radford
>>93128703

Gonna leave this here for you☺️https://www.socialistalternative.org/get-involved/

Anonymous

Nothing quite hits the same as starting my day angry with a Chollop!

Anonymous

Keep writing attack ads for the fascists, I’m sure they won’t be used to further disembowel us. Keep shilling for “Dems are the real puppet masters” saboteurs like your on a Jill Stein payroll. Because despair porn really is what keeps the battle going in the trenches and definitely keeps your plan it 10 mission in focus. Great use of your platform. Clap clap clap. Thanks.

Anonymous

Hi Dave and Gareth, I've come to looks forward to your political takes and rants. As a full-time mom with two youngish kids and an ADHD brain, I don't have the time and mental wherewithall to read and analyze most of the political news. As someone with similar political leanings and worldview as yourselves, I try to do what I can to make a difference. My efforts are mostly on the micro-scale, however, like donating to our local food pantry, teaching my kids, helping my neighbors, etc. If you followed up these type of discussions with something that someone like myself can to to effect change, perhaps our situation would feel a lot less hopeless. You have such a huge listening audience you might be able to get some things done.

Anonymous
>>93140817

Nah that's not the issue. Over the last 50 or so years you've had a complete breakdown of the post-war agreement between capital and labor which has slowly eroded standards of living down to nil and increased inequality at a near exponential rate. If the party that's supposed to stand up for the working class and middle class (which is a distinction say from the UK Labor party as the US has never had a true labor party) and yet now since the 80's they just keep playing further and further into recruiting the upper middle class and various sectors of capital, while time and time again doing nothing for the larger working class and/or minority base, then that's the problem right there in itself. Most of the working class voter base lost by the dems didn't go to the GOP, they actually just dropped out of voting entirely or rarely vote in big elections and depending on how you look at it that's as much as 1/3 if not higher since the 70's. The party in it's current form refuses to listen to the large majority of people who want healthcare, oppose war, want police militarization to be nullified, are worried about climate change, don't want the US to be the global hegemon with 800+ bases doing black ops kill squad shit 24/7 across a supermajority of the planet, want their politicians and corporate elites to be legally accountable, etc. etc. Yet any attempt at even broaching this is fought off with a violence they would never use against anyone from the GOP. So no they should be ruthlessly criticized until they change or the party goes the way of the fucking Whigs, as they are surely what is going to finally allow the entire US system to go full fash...hell most of it is already and has been for near a century.

Anonymous
>>93128703

Not to sound like a know-it-all, but I've heard Marxism described as a form of analysis that let's one see the "code" (so to speak) of the capitalist system, and I really have to agree after going pretty deep into the theory the last fiveish years. The first few sections of Kapital are a bit tough at first but if more left-leaning folks would read that and say Imperialism The Highest Stage of Capitalism by Lenin, even just as a starting block, explaining the current system would go so much easier. The whole what is to be done issue is another thing entirely of course.

Anonymous

The US (and many of it's allies) legalized corruption so long ago, practices that would make Boss Tweed blush are just common place now, and you don't even get your garbage picked up and streets swept in many cities/regions. Just read about the Ted Cruz v FEC case from the last USSC term which effectively legalizes paying a candidates expenses (plus x% interest) AFTER they've won an election. And just to comment on Gareth's point there about Romania (which undoubtedly had one of the um most "unorthodox" governments in the Eastern Bloc; did many good things for the average person in various periods, then did some atrocious borderline nationalist things which were deeply awful) that even with the protests leading to Ceausescu's death and the change in system, a surprising majority of people still consider those times as better or to a smaller extent just as good as the current system: https://euobserver.com/news/30890 Polls vary but at most it's usually ~30% that consider the Communist Era as being worse in terms of living standards and something like 80% don't consider anything bad to have happened to their families. The article explains it as ignorance of the past, which okay there may be some ofthat yes, but imo it's again explainable as material issues like wages; healthcare; infrastructure; vacation time; inequality; discrimination; etc. coming first and the current dominant world order just sucking across the board. Difference is we never really had a comparator in most of our own countries in the west to contrast against, whereas in most former Commie countries most polls turn out like the Romanian one and usually are more favorable.

Evelyn Lhea

Politics and baseball have the absurdest, most unpredictable, and, I swear, most unethical stories I've ever heard. Is it illegal? No? Then we're doing it!

Kijib
>>93140817

what are the Democrats doing to stop fascism? maybe u should direct your anger/whining towards them

Kijib
>>93140817

good read for u https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/democrats-voting-rights-filibuster/618964/

Anonymous

I think the pull out of Afghan had more to do with China than Russia. It’s the same reason the Army adopted the new assault rifle/ammo to defeat body armor. I’m happy to support Ukraine; you can’t negotiate with authoritarians. I’m not sure where you are getting the funeral cost amount. The NY Times has it as 900k + 5mil for security. Still a lot, but not 900mil.

Anonymous
>>93146163

You should listen to Congressional Dish! Jen Briney airs all of Congress’s dirty tricks hidden in the bills

sensual kazoo
>>93140817

Come on dude. The neoliberalism embraced by the Dems and the non facist wing of the GOP is what has showed the ground for facism. The Dem party needs to change if it's going to actually oppose facism.

thedollop
>>93195712

I saw it on an australian news program. Cool, no authoritarians. What is it you want to do about the United States of America then?

thedollop
>>93131922

I should probably do a dollop on the response to Mussolini. It's exactly the same.

thedollop
>>93125035

I stopped watching baseball a couple of years ago but I can never root for them because of the signs the fans held up to Timmy