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The spline based dynamic hair grooming system was tested in the past week. It has been a eyesore after I noticed that when Alet is posed upside down her hair is largely still kept in shape like it was applied too much hair gel.

Building real-time, fully physics driven hair not only makes every thread of hair interactable with other objects independently, it is also a necessary step towards creating CG grade characters with long, straight hair without making the strands resemble hair cards dangling from the scalp. This technical concern has become an immediate challenge since we start sketching the concept for Rena. The reason why we did not allow hair customization in the game is also due to the unstable nature of current interim solution for hair rendering - we need to make sure whether it is a practical choice to switch to the new system before putting the artists to work.

So now we have good news and bad news. Good news is that it works as intended despite some minor issues such as the hair accessories moving asynchronously; bad news is that this solution is SUPER heavy as to decimate the frame rate to 1/3 on main stream middle end graphic cards. Since this is a bleeding edge feature for game building in Unreal, I'm pretty sure graphic card producers will release driver updates to mitigate the performance impact later on.

We will closely monitor the updates related to the new hair solution, and once we deem it is a good timing for the system to shine we are going to add it to the game.

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Anonymous

很强

onjah420

Well your hair is already better than most J-"fuck" games and better than bdo's hair

Anonymous

可以重新上传一个百度云盘origin 1.31版本的游戏吗,现在的链接失效了

Anonymous

Time to upgrade to a 3080. You served me well 1080ti.

Anonymous

was there ever a mention on the minimum requirements for graphic cards? i think mine is at its limit and is rather choppy with the current releases. though i do hope we can get more controls on the graphics since the mid and high is a really drastic jump and seems to apply on everything. just a suggestion but maybe seperate the dynamic hair as an option to turn on/off if the budget and schedules allows for it.

Anonymous

I agree, there's other things that need attention way before this, jizz physics for example. The way that works right now is just horrible and looks like it's from 2005. Making it 100% physics based is unreasonable, but there are implementations that manage good performance while looking good (for example in Wild Life).

Anonymous

thank you for your feedback and good luck

Anonymous

想不到我的Nvidia 10系已经这么过时了😂

Anonymous

Is my 1660TI in danger?

Anonymous

Will the DLSS2.0 be available? 🤔

Anonymous

加油奥

Anonymous

Project Helius: posts update me: OwO

PTRNDTA

Would have never thought I would get a 3070 for a hentai game. The future is here.

Anonymous

Unreal's new spline based hair, has some improvement, and you can create guide hairs, more sparsely, where then the Voxels from Niagra only render for the strands visible, but it's been a tough fight to get performance with hair up high enough for VR Scenes, so VR may need cards, which will unfortunately look like cards in VR, more so than in 2D, so for VR/2D Hybrid games there are no "Great" Solutions, but the hair system is scale-able...

Anonymous

大佬,啥时候能自定义阴毛和头发呢

Frank Leo

Thank You

Anonymous

确实,头发能显著改变颜值

Hovis

Well, looks like my GTX 980Ti is destined for the bin lol

Anonymous

That's why my 1660s FULL LOADED but the game running at 42fps or less.

zyratuz

With GTX 1080 all works well ;-)

Anonymous

well, we'll see after this next implementation, won't we? a 3070 might need to be in my future

Anonymous

Super great with RTX 2070 so far. Thanks for the update!

Anonymous

希望能够支持 240hz 刷新率 谢谢!

Gilver

240hz is already supported, you need to go to C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\Paralogue\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor\ edit Engine.ini and add [/Script/Engine.Engine] bSmoothFrameRate=false

MrBlack

AMD R9 380 I'm probably screwed in next update. Hair OPTION PLEASE. If game continues to deliver I'm due for an upgrade and will.

Anonymous

如果我现在取消订阅我以后能得到steam的early access吗?我已经投了36进去了

Ryproar

I really hope my gtx 1080ti can play this... I mean it is a gaming laptop... So guess I am screwed if it goes too far. I mean I can play GTA5 on ultra but if I need a 3070 series... Yeah guess I will unsub then. :(

Anonymous

I really think it's too soon to tell. If they're including these hair changes in the next build that might give you some idea of how your performance might be, but we also need to be giving them our feedback! In my short time backing this project I've seen them be very responsive to concerns or questions. It's quite possible they can dial some of these physics implementations back, or they might be affected by graphics driver updates. So I'd urge you to ask questions, provide feedback and of course make what project backing decisions you feel is best, but help us in the community to let them know what we want!

Ryproar

Trust me I am letting them know. I back many others including WildLife and it seems this is the only game that will require an entirely new laptop or graphics card to play in the future. I am just voicing my concern about this direction. Many people cannot afford to drop 1k on an upgrade to play a beta of a game let alone drop 1k on anything right now due to the whole covid issues. You see very few of the many supporters even comment here and if they cannot play the game they will just leave without a word. That is why they need to be very careful about upgrading too fast or too much at once. That is the point I am trying to make.

Anonymous

You can’t expect development to be held back because you can’t afford new hardware. Turn down the resolution to compensate. Eventually you will get new hardware and will be wanting better graphics. Some people can already take advantage of it so either way, it’s kind of selfish to think the way you are right now.

Ryproar

I am being selfish how? I never said to stop production or cater to me specifically. I am saying it is out of my cost range that is all. Not once did I imply that you should stop. I was under the impression that you expect us to upgrade now at this moment to a 3070 series or such. And it is nice some can afford it but that still leaves my current statement true. A few can not all can. I am sorry if you feel like this is an attack but I never said anything rude to anyone about it I am just saying that I cannot afford to do so now. 2000 is an extremely large amount for anyone anywhere period.

Anonymous

Just to clarify, I’m not speaking on behalf of Project Helius. I’m a backer just like you with a similar setup; laptop with 1080ti on external enclosure. I still think you’re overreacting about this however. PH has not committed to the new hair model yet and even if they do, it’s unlikely it will be implemented until next year. Also, you can always lower the game settings for the time being until you get new hardware. Personally, I would rather them make this state of the art and then I upgrade my hardware later than have them compromise on graphics now because my hardware can’t keep up. I’m sorry if I came out as being abrasive in the previous post.

Ryproar

I am just going by the others on here. I have seen many saying 3070 will run it... 2070ti is all I can find available in my price range. You see I dont know to much about CPU specs since my job is cars and only cars. I understand the graphics and know prices and the 3070 they mention costs 500 plus 650 for the shell and 800 for the ssd. That is why I got upset. If it costs over 2k is it really worth it? They really need to put a minimum spec on the front page to clarify since it us all here say and trolling anymore.

Anonymous

Hi ! I have Rtx 2080 Super little better them 1080 Ti.So don't have a problem. I playing this game 3840x2160 Max settings now.

Latent_Dreamscape

Dude... I'm assuming you must be being hyperbolic as assuming the game would require a 3000 series GPU just because of some new hair physics is *insane*. That being said, you can't really expect a 1080Ti to last forever in terms of performance. Sure they were super-spoopy a few years back, but getting kind of old now!

Anonymous

The game doesn’t really seem demanding even on max until you crank up the screen percentage setting from .4 to 1. That takes my FPS from 60 to 30 at 1440p. PH mentioned that with this new hair model performance is taking a 33-66% hit. That’s quite substancial and would probably require a 3080 for 4K/60 I’m assuming.

Anonymous

Very true, I have already ordered the Rtx 3080, I hope it will be available in -1 2 weeks. New card is difficult to get.

Anonymous

I’m trying to hold out for the 3080Ti but might cave in and get the 3080 by end of year. It looks really promising from what I’ve seen so far.

Ryproar

I will say it once again. I know a LITTLE about cpus. I know a 1080ti Wont cut it anymore BUT what people have told me is to skip the 2070 series since it is outdated and won't play anything good. I work on cars for a living so I never really needed to know about graphics cards or the like. I ordered a 2070 series laptop (I have to use laptops since I live in a small house don't have room or time to build a large setup) and was informed that it won't play this game. This is why I wish the devs would put a minimum spec chart somewhere so we don't have this issue anymore. Not everyone knows the whole computer lingo or has the time to learn it. I have to ask questions and all that gets me is hate and trolling. "You use the ti series? Gawd you know nothing..." "Is 144 frames per second fine?" "Pfft moron" See my issue now.

lishenghua

Is 0.30 released?

Anonymous

I don't need the 3090, I won't buy the video card for work, I won't have an 8k TV :). The 3080 is perfectly enough for me.

Hisoka

need build today??

Anonymous

It isn't actually. the 3090 is aimed at content producers and is only 15-30% faster than a 3080. The 3080Ti will likely have 15-16GB of VRAM and outperform the 3080 by more than 30% while costing less than the 3090.

M

has the new update dropped yet?

Anonymous

There is research into AI based game physics with much lower CPU requirements. Maybe that could help? "Subspace Neural Physics: Fast Data-Driven Interactive Simulation" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atcKO15YVD8 The "AI animated humanoids" also look promising." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTqVhcrilrE