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TDP - 3x06 - Reaction (Full) (Patreon)

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Bailey

I'm just catching up on the Vox Machina reactions and now you post a new DP reaction, just as I'm thinking about watching those. It's like it's a sign that I should lol

SGM

THIS EPISODE IS WHYYYY!! This episode is why I don’t believe Sarai died from the blast of the dragon. I believe Viren did it himself. How would you know which is the last dying breath and he knew of the spell beforehand. We don’t see what is happening and it bothers me. He saw the opportunity to get rid of two problem: Sarai and the dragon.

Suplee215

Hatred if viren is perfectly valid. He's the worse of humanity hubris. I do thibk there are aspects of the conflicts with the dragons and between elves and humans that goes beyond just him though that are interesting. For example the lava golem they killed was not sentient as far as we know and Thunder killed any trespassing humans on the boarder. Not just those who did crimes. Viren is a power hungry maniac but the dragons are not entirely good either.

Zee
>>155393044

That's really interesting I never thought of that, it would be very in character for him, hmmm...

Joey Quixote

Aside from everything else, this is one of the most messed up things Viren's done. Had prior knowledge of the spell and the presence of mind to collect the breath in the heat of the moment. He was waiting for this opportunity. How detached do you gotta be to harvest your friend's dying wife for spell components?

Iron117Prime

Oh, that horn that Claudia has...that's from that one dragon that Soren provoked back in Book 2. Soren cut its horn off with a sword before that dragon broke Soren's spine. Claudia recovered the horn, and since it belonged to a fire dragon, it could move the lava.

O5-69

I agree wholeheartedly that Viren is, to put it plainly, an ass. However, his beliefs and actions would never have gotten any traction or acceptance if it weren't for Xadia. On an individual level, many elves and dragons are good people, the same as any human, but it's the society that is the problem. They banished all of humanity for the actions of the few and are a borderline apartheid state and Xadia has done nothing to try to change this in centuries. The show has given me no reason to side with Xadia. If I were the average Human starving during winter and my ruler killed a single creature to save me and my family and community, I wouldn't bat an eye, especially since that wouldn't even have been necessary if Xadia wasn't so hostile (though I have other thoughts on "we will starve together". That's grounds for a rebellion against Harrow right there). Viren is the symptom of Xadia's societal rot. He's been radicalized by centuries of this injustice and he is radicalizing Humanity in turn because they've been treated the same way. Thunder was a cruel dictator that did nothing to solve this problem and the only reason I empathize with him is because he obviously had a heart for his family.

Ryan Porter

"Hey, are we gonna see Amaya and the other elf chick soon?" No! ... Maybe!

RavenFairy

The original name for this show is Unicorns vs Dragons rewatch this episode there are a lot of parallels of them in this episode

Rupert Anderson Jr

If Aaravos is so dangerous then why is he hot?

Bernhard

Perhaps I’m not very creative either but there don’t seem to be too many options to get an army across a broad stream of lava that wouldn’t be so generic and overpowered that they’d be used all the time (make them fly, create a portal, etc.). They have to make the lava traversable one way or another; and since they’d want to have a way back, Verin would look for a permanent solution. So it’s either solidifying the lava or creating a bridge over it. Given that he’s using part of a fire dragon, manipulating the lava itself is probably his only or at least easier option. And creating a path the Moses way instead of having it cool down where it is just looks cooler.

Christopher Malone

speaking as someone who has watch the series from day one...Aaravos is how he is for reasons, saying what that is would be spoilers but once you know it... it explains a lot. As for Verin, get ready for character growth in season 4-6.

Max

It's easy to blame Viren for everything wrong, but King Harrow is not a perfect man either. He feels hatred, rage, and grief. He makes mistakes, as he admitted in his letter to Callum. In the end, it cost him his life. It's what makes him such a good, complex character. But yeah, Viren does suck

Kaykic

You know what I find interesting? Amaya wasn't with Harrow and Viren. Sarai was her sister, her hero. She's still torn up about loosing her, yet she didn't join the revenge party. She had to know it was happening, Viren and Harrow have to cross the land she's protecting to get to Xadia (still wondering if Viren is the reason she's posted all the way at the Breach. Viren's voice seems to be louder when Harrow is isolated from other friends and family). But back to Amaya. She's grieving, but she doesn't hold a grudge against the dragon who killed her? Was this just a case of not taking combat personally? Maybe respecting Sarai's more forgiving nature and letting her enemy live. We see Amaya save the elf who ambushed her several times and captured the outpost (presumably killing all inside). She clearly hates the elf, but she still helps her up. That elf later explains this as 'warrior's honor'. Did she treat King Avizandum with warrior's honor as well? Or was this her just taking Sarai's teachings to heart?

Connor Grynol

This 2 dimensional opinion on Viren is going to spoil the show for her. She's constantly pushed back against the idea that Viren is allowed to have a deeper motivation. He can only be a selfish, petty, and powerhungry man with no regard for anyone else. I think when confronted with more nuance, she will reject it in place of her own understanding of the character. Hating a character is fine. Having your own interpretation of a character is fine. But there is a point where your own interpretation can be so out of sync with the character as the author intended that it will create a contradiction that will either be resolved with an admission that the character was different than one's initial understanding, or with the rejection of the character's explicit nature in favour of their own understanding. From experience, I'm not optimistic about the former. And the latter will ultimately result in the conclusion that the character was poorly written. Something like "They did a complete 180 out of nowhere".

RavenFairy
>>155413469

I strongly recommend read the first season book written by Aaron Ehasz and his wife. It says that unicorns gave magic to humans but it was primal magic then someone else came and gave dark magic.

Lil Ferret

Did you catch the voice of Sarai screaming “No!” When Harrow threw the spear at Thunder? 👀

Bug Catcher Jacky
>>155416276

Because the dangerous people/assholes are usually hot lol. Gotta have one redeaming quality, I guess

Bug Catcher Jacky

I don't think it's fair that Viren gets all the shit while characters like Harrow and Thunder get off without so much of a second thought. Viren didn't force Harrow to make the choices he made. He didn't hold a knife to his throat or threaten to off his children. Harrow agreed to everything WILLINGLY. People say he was manipulated and I'm tired of hearing that. Harrow is a grown adult. He can make his own choices and face the consequences. He was king, for god's sake. He could've stopped all of it but he didn't. Thunder is just as bad. Sure, I cried when he died, it was cruel and sad but nobody can say he didn't have it coming. Thunder actively attacked people crossing the border, without even bothering to find out why they came. He killed and injured without a second thought, yet somehow invading Xadia as a last resort is considered worse? Sure, Viren is a shitty, petty and ridiculous person but the war is by no means his own fault and I'm tired of everyone only holding him responsible. The show shows perfectly that war always has two sides and it's sad how many people miss it. It perfectly shows the consequences and emotional horror revenge can bring and the never ending circlr that comes with it. Picking sides won't end the war, action will.

Bug Catcher Jacky
>>155923990

Also I found Lava Moses pretty ironic, seeing how moses split thr water to help his people escape, and now Viren splits lava to help his people invade. I love it lol