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TDP - 2x07 - Reaction (Full) (Patreon)

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Suplee215

Important context here is that dragons do not go to the human side of the mountains. I do think Soren was out of line but he saw an enemy combatant with superior fire power just stalking a city in a place where the enemy is not supposed to go. I do think talking would have been better but the level of concern he had is justified. Why was there a dragon on that side? Are the dragons looking for more info to either invade or something? That's a legit concern. Ofncourse it shows how bad going to war in tbe first place was and that even years later they're still concerned with this is bad.

jessie H

Family is very important to Claudia. No price or act is ever not worth the price for her to help her loved ones. She would go to extremes for her family, even if it means losing herself in the process.

A C PARNELL

Ok just to put it out there in the public domain as a first time watcher. For dark magic being a human invention that blood ritual thing looked awfully close to dark magic being used by an elf. Also vieran didn't seem to know it implying the elf knows more dark magic than vieran

Serinthia Kelberry

Soon...soon Claudia will do the thing...maybe it'll make sense...but all I know (or all I will say) is it defined her character for me for the rest of the series...

Sekiro

I don't what care anyone says, the spelf has the most gorgeous voice I've ever heard.

Aineyn
>>146086331

While I do love the show, I do think some things it fails to communicate properly, one of those is how the humans and the elves+dragons really sees each other as a threat. So when the human sides do something to the elves, it comes off as crazy. I do think we should have seen more of a point of view from the elven side from the very beginning, just to point out that, yeah, both sides are screwing with each other. I don't want to spoil too much, but there are indeed elven characters that could show that. But then again, if we did, we'd lose important screen time for Callum, Rayla and Ezran, Claudia and Soren, Viren and "Spelf". Maybe there just not enough time to go into elven characters as well, but it would have provided better context, in my opinion.

Liam Gradwell

I don’t know what to tell you Elijah. That spelf’s voice just does things to you. I don’t like it, but I don’t want it to stop either. 🤣

Suplee215
>>146086331

Yea. I think they needed more focus on both the sunfire elves this season and the assassins rayla were with to really show it. When something like the moon shadow elves are only in the first eleiosdes it's easy to gloss over what was fully stated. Seasons 1-3 as a whole gets the full story across but it isn't until season 3 you really feel it.

Aineyn

Can I just say, I love Elijah's reaction whenever any kind of bugs show up? Like, even animated bugs! Sorry, but it's hilarious! :)

Bernhard

I still remember when I first saw this episode and was very eager to find out what would be the result of Viren finally going through with the blood ritual—magical Bluetooth headset was not on my list. 😁

SauceyRed

OOOH this episode is a good one, excited to watch the reaction

The Akimbo Knight

Ya know, I thought your reaction for the last episode was incredible, but you knocked it out of the park with this reaction, especially the whole bug scene. Genuinely cant wait for the next many reactions.

Moonlight Mariposa

Your reaction to Spelf's voice was everything I was hoping for and more. My reaction was even more extreme... because I thought Spelf was a woman. I realized real quick I was wrong

Sev the Hollow
>>146098582

I'm sure most if not all of us did due to how sparkly and I guess sort of feminine they looked. At least that's how I thought they were

Sev the Hollow
>>146088924

Guess it just took us all off guard when we first heard it since (at least to me) Spelf looked somewhat feminine and sparkly we were expecting a woman's voice

Moonlight Mariposa
>>146098582

I think for me it was the hood. He has long hair too, but something about the hood made his silhouette feel very feminine. I think, partially, it was because the way it's styled reminded me of a nun's habit, which since it's typically a woman's garment I assume my brain just made the jump to female

SauceyRed

I fell in love with Aaravos the moment he first showed up, he grabbed my interest instantly. When I heard his voice, it was like I got hooked like that AGAIN. Aaravos is legitimately one of favorite characters, if not my favorite. His appearance, his lore, his VOICE. I love his voice so fucking much you have no idea. While I didn't expect it to be so low, I did expect it to be somewhat low, I didn't expect it to be high pitched at all. I always thought it fit him.

SauceyRed

Having caught up with season 6, I really like Viren way more as a character. I already did like him as a character even back in book one, but I've definitely liked him more and more as the show went on.

David Bodor

As much as people blame Soren for angering the dragon - That dragon could've just flown the F away the moment she saw a shot coming for her. She didn't need to burn the entire village down, in fact she didn't need to be there to begin with, she was intimidating the villagers, just looking for a fight and then was shocked when that's exacty what she got.

David Bodor
>>146086331

Soren was not out of line at all. The dragon was. She was not supposed to be there, she was intimidating the people, essentially she was looking for a fight. And when Soren shot, he missed, so she could have just flown the F away and left the village, but no, instead she goes to burn it all down for no reason. It's like - if you pull out a gun in public, don't be surprised if someone tackles you.

Flufux

So wait, it's okay for the dragons to trespass on human lands, and it was wrong to attack them if they do...but when humans do the exact same thing and the dragons attack them on sight without warning, then the dragons are justified for doing so?

Carmen Sandiego but as a witch

Fun fact: The Spelf's voice is the same voice actor who played Three Dog in Bethesda's Fallout 3 video game.

Verdant Crown

The thing about bad decisions, mistakes and failures is that they can sometimes allow us the opportunity to reflect, grow and walk a better path moving forward. Of course, sometimes people can also choose to simply double down instead. Claudia and Soren are both excellent characters in their own ways and they will each have to decide whether they are willing to walk in their fathers footsteps or not. I don't think anyone expected Spelf to have that voice, but I think it fits him really well once you get used to it.

Moonlight Mariposa
>>146106626

The dragon wasn't truly doing anything harmful by being there and it wasn't hurting anyone, so shooting at them unprovoked started a fight that maybe didn't need to happen. So far the only times we've really seem humans go out into dragon lands have been to kill magical creatures - ie, the dragon king and the fire titan and the supposed extinction of the unicorns. The few times we've seen dragons attack it is almost always in self defense or to protect their lands.

Moonlight Mariposa
>>146104374

In defense of the dragon, we don't actually know why she was there. Sure, she was frightening the townsfolk but she hadn't actually done anything to them nor did she seem to be acting aggressively. Soren essentially challenged the dragon to a fight and as we've seen, dragons don't take kindly to that sort of thing.

Moonlight Mariposa
>>146086331

But who is the gun here? The dragon just chilling and flying around or the guy who actually fired a shot? We don't know what the dragon was doing but clearly she wasn't immediately on a 'kill all humans' kick considering she didn't attack until he did. It's like when a wild animal wanders into a town. You don't start throwing things at it, you'll only piss it off or, worse, scare it at which point all bets are off for how the animal will behave.

Axel

Soren's decision was bad, which he ended up recognizing, but he's a young military guy, raised by Viren, who apparently has dreamed of slaying a dragon. "Kids, little kids, they grow up believing that they can be a hero if they drive a sword into the heart of anything different." The dragon does seem like she was looking for a fight. Once they met conflict was inevitable.

Flufux
>>146106626

Hmmm...that is a fair point. Though at the same time...what was that dragon doing there in the first place?

Suplee215
>>146086331

I disagree with comparing dragons to wild animals. They're enemy soldiers for sure in this world. I do think shooting first just escalated the situation and shouldn't save been done. Evaculatijgnthe town or finding shelter or finding a way to talk tonthem should have been done

Fishy
>>146109073

He’s also the same voice actor as Koh the face stealer in avatar

Aineyn
>>146086331

The thing is, the dragon doesn't really had any business being there, seeing as the humans are basically in, at best, a cold war with the elves and the dragons. It's the fantasy equivalent of posting a bunch of nuclear missiles near a town. Sure, provoking them is a terrible idea; it'll just make them shoot the nukes, which is what they did in this episode. But they still posted a metaphorical nuke near the town, that ain't great either.

Christopher Malone

this is a turning point moment for a lot of characters, get ready cause the end of the beginning is coming and now the REAL game begins

Iron117Prime

Remember what Runaan said when Viren interogated him back in Season 1 and showed him the mirror? His exact words were.... "That mirror... You found something worse than death." And... you did say that you wanted a villain to genuinely fear... well, be careful what you wish for.

MakMcPoorards
>>146104374

The dragon was there to start a fight, the creators have said as much. Also, Soren challenging the dragon to a fight does not condone burning down a village.

Ryan Porter

"Catra, no!" "Wh...what did I do?" "Sorry, sweetie. Habit. Callum, no!" Claudia is probably the most complex character in the series. She reminds me a lot of Catra. And like I always said about her, you can't have a redemption arc until you hit rock bottom. And, well, Soren just hit a rock... Speaking of Avril Lavigne, a sapphic cover of "Girlfriend" would be amazing.

Catradora fan

"A downed dragon is a dead dragon."

Grace Thompson

fun fact! spelf's voice actor is the same guy who did koh the face stealer from atla XD

Joey Quixote

The final few episodes of this season are terrific. I was the reverse with Claudia and Soren. Maybe it's just because I'm used to the trope of the jerk jock character that Soren is introduced as. Claudia is so complex. This lovable dork who sees no moral issues with dark magic. But this was a good moment. The genuine fear in Soren's voice as he tells Claudia he can't move. Claudia choosing her brother over the mission. I knew the bug reaction was coming, and it did not disappoint! 😂 Also, yeah, was not expecting that voice.

Phoenix Mackenzie
>>146134409

That moment with Soren literally made me go, is this *that* injury?, I heard the crack but couldn't remember until I noticed he wasn't moving then I had the oh shit moment, curious to see how Elijah reacts to what happens after it with them

Phoenix Mackenzie
>>146106626

The dragon was just flying without even interacting with the people at all, the people(Soren) chose to attack it unprovoked

Flufux
>>146106626

Yes, but why was she trespassing on human lands in the first place? She's a sapient being, not a wild animal, which means she willingly and knowingly crossed the border, and then circled over a single town for days, scaring the natives. And when attacked, which completely missed by the way, she could have easily retreated or attacked the tower with the ballistas alone, but instead she set fire to a town of innocent people. Meanwhile, Thunder the Dragon King attacked and killed Sarai and the Queens of Duren on sight without giving them a warning or a chance to leave alive. Now what Soren did was stupid, but there's still a massive double-standard here.

David Bodor
>>146104374

Dragons arent supposed to go to the other side of the border. They are meant to stay in Xadia. But even ignoring that part, she is a dragon, she should know better than to fly repeatedly above a hostile village. It is the equivalent of waving around a gun in public and then being surprised when people try to take you out. She is basically a flying siege weapon, wtf was she expecting?

Kaykic

Xadia does not catch the flak they deserve in this show. It always shows the humans as the unreasonable ones, when the dragons/elves do their fair share of bad things. The humans killed the dragon king and 'destroyed' his egg, so Xadia sent assassins for Harrow and Ez. Fine; eye for an eye. But then why send dragons to intimidate innocent people and provoke them? Why send troops to the border? If it's just precautionary, why is the dragon flying low enough to terrify people? Why did the sunfire elves ambush Amaya when she was alone on patrol? They want a war. Soren is like Viren here, seeing a threat and not thinking it through before attacking. He was overconfident and fell right into a trap.

ELS_Art

Xandia is not innocent in all of this. Sometimes people do bad things for good reasons. All of these characters are complex and not one dimensional.