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That Time The Last Of Us Part 2 Was Compared To Schindler's List (The Jimquisition) (Patreon)

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2020-06-22 13:19:23
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2020-07

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The Last of Us Part 2 is finally out, and while I won't say Naughty Dog's murder party is one of the most overrated games of all time, I will declare that its achievements have been... overstated. A lot.  

Among absurd comparisons to movies and overall contentious discourse, we have the game's very own director using a situation to try and show up a journalist who only recently exposed Naughty Dog's poor treatment of its staff.   

So let's talk about that time The Last of Us Part II was compared to Schindler's List, and the absurdly bad faith fallout that certain industry leaders tried to stir up.  

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That Time The Last Of Us Part 2 Was Compared To Schindler's List (The Jimquisition)

http://www.patreon.com/jimquisition http://www.thejimquisition.com https://www.thejimporium.com The Last of Us 2 is finally out, and while I won't say Naughty Dog's murder party is one of the most overrated games of all time, I will declare that its achievements have been... overstated. A lot. Among absurd comparisons to movies and overall contentious discourse, we have the game's very own director using a situation to try and show up a journalist who only recently exposed Naughty Dog's poor treatment of its staff. So let's talk about that time The Last of Us Part II was compared to Schindler's List, and the absurdly bad faith fallout that certain industry leaders tried to stir up. #TheLastOfUs2 #NaughtyDog #PS4 #Sony #TLoU2 #TLoUp2 #TheLastofUsPart2 #SchindlersList #NeilDruckmann #Twitter #Journalism #Games #Game #Gaming #Videogame #Videogames #Review #GTAIV #HeavyRain #QuanticDream #Metacritic #Controversy #Funny #Movies #Criticism #NaughtyDog __ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimsterling Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jimsterling0 Bandcamp of the Sax Dragon - https://carlcatron.bandcamp.com Nathan Hanover - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-8L7n7l11PJM6FFcI6Ju8A

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Luna

Wow, I didn't know there was a review embargo on 50% of the game. Hey, do you remember that time when Atlus released Persona 5 and threatened streamers with takedowns if they streamed past a certain point in the game? Because I remember. No one else seems to remember, but I do.

Benedict Holland

This is a 10/10 game though. It is very good. It is well executed. The story is good, the visuals are off the charts. It is a great game. Even past all of the hype, this is probably going to be remembered. This would be like a 4/10 movie. Like, it is just a bit better than the fantom menace. Now as far as stories go, the closest game was the Mass Effect trilogy. That was an epic story in the traditional sense and absolutely blew me away. That game was better than most movies and I would put it against any sci-fi movie you want. None of this entertainment is ever worth crunch or an abusive work environment. No game or movie or really anything entertaining is ever worth putting people through suffering and hell.

Benedict Holland
>>39053618

What was funny about P5 is that you still can't take screenshots. In P5R you can take screenshots of old content. That is wierd, really damn wierd. I dont know if Atlus ever did anything like they said they would do. It is wierd. Like, it isnt a super well known game in the west. I would have assumed they would want the free publicity.

RedBedroomRecords
>>39053667

Eh I think Last of Us 2 has better writing then the vast majority of shitty Oscar bait movies(how shit like Green Book, Titanic, The Artist and Crash won best picture is beyond me). Unfortunately abusive environments is kind of built into both industries, Hitchcock was legendary for the abuse he heaped on actresses and you still here people revering The Shining despite Kubrick being an abusive dick to Shelley Duvall on the set(once making her re-do a scene 27 times for no good reason) so game development having an abusive environment is just one more example of them trying to be equivalent to the film industry, they've heard all those stories about abusive directors of "classic" films being romanticized and they think that's necessary to make good AAA games, that could easily be it's own episode.

Perpetual Noob

Another great video Jim. Thanks. Also thank you for exposing me to things I miss in the gaming sphere. I didn't see any of these tweets. Probably says a lot about me that I tend to get my gaming news from you but oh well. You make quality content so I'm not mad. 🙂

RedBedroomRecords

Strongly disagree on Heavy Rain, no it's not a masterpiece but nevertheless I do still think it's a damn good game with great dialogue(definitely not Tommy Wiseau levels at all IMO, most people still do consider it a good game) and a highly compelling story and narrative, i'm with TotalBiscuit on that game in that it's plot is more impactful if you actually have kids yourself. Disagree that it would've been "laughed out" as a movie, considering the quality of most Oscar bait films I think it would fit right in actually, I don't think it's "stilted", "pompous" or "poorly written" in the least. GTA4's story still holds up pretty well for me, though it was the very first GTA game I ever played so I didn't have the same reverence for the previous titles that a lot of fans did, I like them just fine but good lord the controls have not aged well and there's way too many frustrating missions for their own good. BTW did you know Microsoft rejected Heavy Rain because of the whole "kidnapped kid" plot? Kind of dumb for them to pass on a goldmine like QD over something like that LOL. I think Last of Us 2 handles its message pretty damn well, it basically does the same thing as Spec Ops but a lot better and way less clunky and heavy-handed IMO. Jason is a good journalist, but I have to say he does come off as an arrogant dickhead at times(good lord the shit he said about Jim on Resetera, what a tool) so I can't really blame people like Cory for having a go at him even if he was in the wrong to do so in that manner.

Anonymous

Once again: Thank god for You.

Fermin Ayucar

You are a riot :D I genuinely LoL'd at this one; also, thank you for pointing out that me holding a AAA game writing to literary standards makes me a moron, a well meaning moron mind you, I think they could do better, but a moron after all. Love you man, thank God for you.

Anonymous

This was great! The Last of Us 2 and Disclosure (Netflix doc, you should check it out~) coming out in the same week was pretty... ironic, to say the least. Inclusion of LGBTQ+ characters in this kind of game in this kind of genre was just doomed to be disappointing, which is unfortunate because I feel like a lot of great stories could come out of a setting where society collapses and few people are left to pick up the pieces and form a new society. The stories wouldn't be perfect, since the overall arc of mass amounts of people being killed off has some problematic elements to it whenever it is executed. Knowing what I know now after its release, I'm hesitant to play it at all, since I'm trans myself (especially not for the $60 starting price!!). It absolutely sucks that they embargoed what the "t r a n s r e p r e s e n t a t i o n" in the game actually was, especially since trans masculine people are hardly represented in any media to begin with. The only way I knew the game actually came out was because I started seeing a bunch of trans people online just absolutely trashing the game for its queer rep (and rightly so imo).

RedBedroomRecords
>>39060358

See I disagree, I didn't think it was dissapointing at all and there's plenty of LGBTQ folks that are genuinely happy that a game like this exists at all, i'd highly recommend you follow Bootleg Girl on Twitter as she's also a trans gamer and she has made very good points about TLOU2 and why it's such a big deal to people like her:https://twitter.com/BootlegGirl/with_replies I'm with her in that I think the game has some damn good queer rep. They embargoed it because of the leaks and because they didn't want game reviewers to have to deal with toxic comments sections over those plot points.

Harry Moore

Bioshock deserved a 10 out of 10 at the time. I think time's been less kind to it, but at the time it definitely deserved it.

Harry Moore
>>39057310

I think Heavy Rain was as good as they said it was at the time. I think we laugh at those reactions in hindsight, for getting just how starved for anything fresh we'd become. It's kinda like how someone now would watch some of the "best cinema of all time" and be like "omg this suuuuucks" Time moved on, and some things didn't age well, but at the time they truly were a shot in the arm and brought something out of us we weren't used to getting from games.

Anonymous

It reminds me of the CinemaSins meme of “the books don’t matter” when talking about adaptations. Books/Films/TV/Video Games are all different mediums and need to be judged accordingly, and on their own merits.

Kraken

I'm glad you mentioned Undertale, if only in image, because that's what was going through my mind, too. As I told my wife, this is a game where you literally take on the big bad with the power of hopes and dreams, and damned if it didn't work. And... I wanted to face the big bad with the power of hopes and dreams. I DESPERATELY wanted to save all these creatures who just seemed to want a chance to live in a world that wasn't trying to destroy them. The game snuck up on me and gave me a hug that I didn't realize I needed. This? TLOU2? It's just... Ugh. You know, say what you will about Heavy Rain, I didn't think Cage's excesses were likely to affect the medium as a whole for the worse. And maybe better hands would actually take some of the better ideas and do something worthwhile with them. All I eke out about TLOU2 seems to be a determination to prove that players will pay AAA prices and exert to plow through 30 hours of game play in a game that is determined to make them miserable. ...And we have [Insert Major AAA series here] for that, amirite? It's sheer excess, on so many levels, wrapped up in multiple layers of "don't you dare look askance at my ground-breaking masterpiece, peasant, or I'll call you names." And worse, it's perfectly pitched to professional critics, not players- different enough to appeal to the jaded, preachy enough to appeal to those who need to pat themselves on the back for being superior to the hoi polloi, and backed by enough scary, "We will ruin you if you piss us off" corporate power that you can give it a 10/10 with the assurance that most everyone else will do so too, giving you cover. This game NEEDS pushback, because if the wrong lessons are learned from it, the industry WILL get worse.

Anonymous

Respectfully, while I haven't played the sequel, the opening scene from The Last of Us (original) hit me in the feels more than any movie ever has. For me, personally, the act of being a participant in the story has the ability to connect me to a story in a way that other media doesn't. And I would argue that Troy Baker's performance at the end of the opening is on par with any live action performance out there. The story, writing, production values, etc. for games are generally not on par with movies from an observer's perspective, but they don't have to be in order to elicit an emotional connection with me because of their interactive nature drawing me in.

Twit In A Hat

That end bit was glorious.

Twit In A Hat

None at all. I don't think *any* plot points are mentioned, in fact.

Anonymous

Lost it at "I like to suck cocks and balls" :D Jim is the Orson Welles of YouTube

JtheFool

Sometimes it's good to see Jim just doing it cute and being happy