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The Shining Filmmaker Uncut Movie Reaction! (Patreon)

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2021-10-10 21:53:08
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Yours truly, Johnny Dollar

Since you liked Shelley Duvall's performance in this, you may want to try some Robert Altman films, she appears in a bunch of his 70's work. Though they are mostly small to medium roles.

Matt

You should check out the documentary ROOM 237

Luke Trottier

Watching now! Early on still. The more I see this movie, the more I think, unfortunately, that, that little boy was sodomized by his father, orally. I didn't get that by first watch or two, but now I fairly strongly think so.

Cody Price

Got to check out the sequel to The Shining, Doctor Sleep. So good. :)

Luke Trottier

Yes! The hotel, imo is DEFINITELY an entity. Good catch on getting that impression from the shooting. Or, at least, the history and events, 'marked' the location and has an entity type role.

H Blackwell

You're gonna need to watch Doctor Sleep(the sequel) now. Like right now. lol

Ken

I revisit this movie a lot, and it was fun watching along with you this time and hearing your thoughts. Something new that got pointed out to me recently: when Danny is talking with Mr Halloran, it's all close-ups until Danny asks "are you scared of this place", then we get our first wide shot and the knives in the background are all pointed right at Danny's head.

Mister Lou

glad you liked it, you gotta check out Doctor Sleep The Director's Cut, yo! and also the Room 237 doc. (haha doc, short for documentary and also the kid's nickname in the movie. unintended pun.)

Cody Price

By the way, all your questions about the first one that are all opened ended get answered in the sequel which came out 29 years later following an adult Danny which is played by Ewan McGregor. Also, the characters of his Mom, his Dad, and Dick Hollarann is still important to the story of the sequel.

Cody Price

Also, you mentioned that Jack Nicholson seemed like the Joker in this performance near the end. Not sure if you ever saw the Tim Burton Batman film, but in the Tim Burton Batman film Jack Nicholson actually did play the Joker.

Luke Trottier

Good call about the shining. I do think the dad has the shining, just not as intuned. And at the very end of the movie, the mom has it. Eh, screw it. I've never written my interpretation for The Shining. I think I'm going to go look at some interpretations after this, I've never done so before. For all I now there is a consensus interpretation that would make perfect sense to me. Anyway, I've seen this about 5 times, and each time has been better. I'll try to keep it brief, but I do have a lot more thoughts. For starters, I hate saying it, but based on Danny's behaviour and how he describes Tony (Tony became a thing shortly after the mom saw the dislocated arm injury, but abuse could have started shortly prior, Tony lives in Danny's mouth and hides in his stomach :/ and he isn't supposed to tell anyone stuff - something Jack surely told Danny), plus a scene I will touch on later... I think Jack molested his son, including making Danny perform oral on him. I think Tony is a coping mechanism for a deeply traumatized little boy. The blood out of the elevator is Danny seeing the result of the accumulation of generations of violence and harm done in that area - from the slaughter of natives, to domestic murder. Danny shines. Jack? I think Jack is a horrible man who isn't pure evil, or pure psychopath. I think he hurt his son, I think he molested his son. He had a drinking problem, he got sober. I think he has a conscience, maybe not a very fully formed one, and he has care for his family, though not fully formed and healthy. I think he has guilt, at the same time as deflection and misogny. Jack shines, too, but not as much, at least not until getting to the hotel. I am still not completely sure how mirrors play in, but we see some notable scenes playing off mirrors that I think is more than just imagery. Including when Jack is walking down the hall on the way to the ball room, and he looks normal, then loses it, then looks normal, then loses it. Each time he is losing it, is when he passes the mirrors. I think Jack's deeply flawed nature, in combination with the past of the hotel, which (I forget the actor's name, the black gentlemen played by Scatman Crothers) described as having been marked with a lasting residue of bad things that happened, is amplified. I don't think he is possessed per say, not demonically or by another person at least, but I think he is suseptible and weak to the influences of the cursed history of this place because of his openness and willingness to do evil, and has those traits imbued into his persona more deeply. When he has his drink, he says that he would give his soul for a drink, and then in pops Lloyd. I do think the ball room and him meeting Grady, the ex-killer were hallucinations. Him 'shining' past figures and seeing them, and then interacting with them. When Lloyd tells him they were both always the care-taker, I think the point is that Jack is Jack, but the hotel's history and the entity of it that shines, and him being suseptible to it, have made him weak and amplified the evil, and has had the same effect on him as it had on Grady and some others in the past. Jack knows Danny is talking to an outside party, because Jack is beginning to shine more strongly. This place brings out the shining in people. Jack's conversation with Grady is just a conversation with himself, I think. He says how great of a bartender Llyod is, I think he is channeling some previous people's experience with him who went through this stuff, and I suspect they, too, like Grady, were deeply troubled/troublesome alcoholics. At the end of the movie, Wendy begins shining, too. When we see her, see that man in the animal costume in a male-male felatio scene, the framing reminded me of when Danny was brushing his teeth. And Danny seemingly had something traumatic or notable happen while brushing his teeth based on his therapist conversation, and the pillow he sleeps on is the same animal design as that costume. I think via shining, Wendy is figuring out or getting glimpses that Jack molested her son.

Luke Trottier

The mirrors seem to reflect some of that stained evil that curses the place. Even redrum which means nothing, or perhaps 'red' which is ambiguous but could be associated with blood or violence or rage, and 'rum', a type of alcohol, being written, being reflected as murder. I think the hotel itself unlocked the door, presenting for Jack as Grady. And I think Jack being in the photo from the past is just symbolism.

Luke Trottier

Nicholson is so good. I think this movie could have been draggy and boring if it wasn't for everything being so well done. The slow-ish burn and subtle/minimalism at times work very, very well with everything being done well by every one.

jamesvscinema
>>69570292

Hahaha I’m happy you actually took the time to type this up by the way! Good info 👍🏽

Anonymous
>>69571453

That's definitely the Kubrick style. You don't dare look away in ow scenes, because there is always something going on. No scene or shot, is wasted.

Anonymous

If you want to dive deeper please give the documentary Room 237 a watch, even if it's on your own time. It fleshes out the movie even more and makes future rewatches priceless.

Anonymous

One of my favorite things about the set design used in this film is the purposeful nonsensical layout that gives an additional sense of subconscious unease. So often there are windows where there should be walls, or hallways that circle back on places that already exist as something else.

Anonymous

The Shining just might be one of the best films ever made. Stanley Kubrick was a true master. An artist first and foremost, and a filmmaker second.