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It's gettin' hot in herre, so hot, that I think summer might be close by. But the high temperatures aren't going to stop me from pushing out new content. The new attractiveness system is something that I was talking about for probably half a year at this point, and it's finally here. Although not complete with all its planned features, the base implementation is ready.

Internally I've started restructuring how production planning occurs for each tiny new thing. A big problem is cramming a lot of progress in a small amount of time, which when working with multiple artists can be an issue when one of them is behind. Being able to cut content early and focus on essentials requires good planning, and I think I can improve on that a lot. This was definitely the biggest problem of this release. Always striving to improve.

In addition, this release is slightly different. I've pushed out an update to the previous version to include the fixes introduced here. If for some reason you find this version to not be good enough for you, going back now includes fixes that should be there much earlier (except performance improvements). Changes related to Patreon Community Guidelines are present in both releases.

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4.3.5.143.6

  • Slightly decreased the limit of Sim being considered very attractive
  • Fixed Attractiveness detection of family relations
  • Fixed Attractiveness gender preference consistency
  • Fixed function load order for Sims penis state


4.3.5.143.5

  • Fixed 'Sexually Alluring' trait not working properly
  • Fixed attractiveness storytelling for married Sims


4.3.5.143.4

  • Fixed errors caused by caching of attractiveness data


4.3.5.143.3

  • Fixed default skin tones compression artifacts again
  • Fixed attractiveness moodlet icons being flipped


4.3.5.143.2

  • Fixed errors related to pregnancy bellies
  • Fixed errors related to gender preference
  • Fixed 'Unique Appearance' trait missing icon


4.3.5.143.1

  • Fixed an error caused by attractiveness storytelling


Attractiveness

  • Added attractiveness
  • Added attractiveness social outcomes
  • Added attractiveness storytelling
  • Added attractiveness gender preference overrides
You can read more about Attractiveness below.


Sex

  • Rewritten sex relationship checks
Asking Sims for sex is a very old function of the mod at this point, which was originally based on the default WooHoo. With the many changes done to WickedWhims over time, it got hard to keep it updated and balanced.
The new rewritten function tries to balance things out better and introduce the newly added relationship features to it. Building a relationship that heavily depends on romance isn't necessary anymore, and random additional modifiers (moodlets, mood) aren't as game changing as before. The new design is built to expand, but at this point in time, it's more important to test the base and find out if it works well.
  • Fixed the next sex animation button not refreshing after climax gets unlocked
  • Fixed auditions getting stuck after sex when missed
  • Fixed Sims phone getting unsilenced after sex no matter what


Nudity

  • Made default skin tones not be considered as Custom Content
  • Fixed default skin tones compression artifacts
All of the base game and expansion packs skin tones are now free from the wrench icon. If you had issues uploading your Sims to the gallery without them being tagged as CC, this should be now solved.
And all of the skin tones are now compression artifacts free. But, unfortunately, at the same time they are not HQ compatible anymore. Upscaling skin tones gets you nothing more than a bunch of graphical errors, so if you modded your game to work in the HQ mode, you need to provide your own skin tones.
  • Fixed issues with the default male soft penis body frame model
  • Fixed issues with Sims outfit changing after applying or cleaning cum
  • Fixed Sims gaining nudity skills experience when not intentionally nude
  • Reverted underwear mannequin changing body frame based on the clothing preference of the Sim


Relationships

  • [!] Removed 'Romance Age Restrictions' feature (teen-adult relationships)
  • [!] Removed 'Incest' feature (global setting and trait)
These changes have been made to comply with the Community Guidelines of Patreon.
I will update you on this matter once the investigation from the Patreon side is concluded.


Impressions

  • Made impressions slightly less powerful in advancing relationships


Other

  • Fixed ambiguous errors when an exception occurs
  • Fixed insignificant issues with some animations traversal configuration
  • Fixed name text sanitization missing for exporting settings
  • Major performance improvements
Most of WickedWhims gameplay tick hooks are now integrated with the game in a much more efficient way, reducing the average processing time. Some functions got rewritten to operate on a passive mode and segmented to give the processing more time to regulate. Overall it's a pretty solid step forward, without stripping out any functionality, that should be noticeable, especially when speeding up time.

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Attractiveness is the pure attraction to Sim outside appearance. Every detail matters, from the clothing type and style, the colors, accessories, hair, eyes, including body shape, and even voice and the way they move.

Everybody is attractive and unattractive in their own way, seen through the eyes of others. But appearance can be altered to fit the needs of your chosen one.


Refined Taste

Everyone has some sort of style, if you like it or not, the way you look defines your attractive attributes. Any visual elements that Sims represent themselves with are taken into account when measuring how attractive they are. Any distinct element of a Sim is quantified, including Custom Content, and compared with preferences of others.

Everyone has their preferences. Maybe you like long hair, or the color green, or fancy dresses, or maybe you dislike glasses or hate facial hair. Whatever you like or dislike is important in finding the match of your dreams. All of your Sims’ preferences are compared with others, and if someone posses everything you desire, that makes a perfect match for a partner.

But opinions change, and so do preferences. At any point, any Sim, or group of Sims, can get their preferences adjusted. Anything can be liked, dislike, or simply ignored - to fit what seems to be correct with Sims personality.

In most cases, figuring out what fits isn’t necessary. Any Sim with a romantic partner will automatically adjust to be attracted to them. Sims with still alive parents will learn from their style and know its value. Others will try to fit with what is the most popular or just like whatever they are already into. And obviously, you can decide what is better and regenerate preferences based on one of these rules.


Unique World

Every world is different, populated with varied looking Sims, and many opportunities to find a match. If your game has mostly similar looking Sims, that will establish a very strong common style, making Sims that stand out that much more unique. But if your game is filled with very distinct looking Sims, standing out isn’t enough to get noticed.

Each and every attractive attribute has its value. If everybody has long beautiful hair, then there isn’t much value in having long beautiful hair. That creates a great opportunity for any Sim that is bald, making being bald so much more rare. Having rare style means that you stand out, and if someone likes your bald Sim then they will be so much more special for them.


Storytelling

When spending time at a public venue or at a house party, you get an occasion to look at other Sims. Maybe you will notice someone new at the other side of the bar, or walk right by them - a particularly attractive individual. It’s pretty rare, but when someone so extremely attractive shows up, you will remember them. Or take action on the spot.

Still, a missed opportunity to interact is nothing to cry about. Sims will remember every hottie they encountered and think or dream about them. It’s easy to idealize someone through daydreaming, so getting to meet them again makes it that much more special as if they got even more attractive in your eyes.

Don’t ignore the desires of your Sim. You don’t meet someone that fits your type so perfectly every day. Let the heart speak.


Magnetic Relationships

While looking around for someone to socialize with, it’s easy for your eyes to lock on the most attractive face. Sims are encouraged to interact with anyone they found the most alluring. It’s not a rule, and with how random Sims can behave, it’s not even so obvious… but they try.

And when they get to socializing, being attractive makes it so much easier. Your every word creates an aura of romance, and your jokes seem to be a little bit funnier. Building a relationship becomes a lot easier, although it’s the opposite if you’re seen as unattractive. Being seen as ugly in someone’s eyes isn’t the end of the world, you still have a chance if you try hard enough.


Clear Intentions [Future]

Establishing relationships doesn’t have to be as vague as talking about one thing or another, hoping that it will have an effect. Being upfront about your intentions speeds up the process of building a relationship and immediately tells you where things can go.

Perhaps you’re not interested in building a romantic relationship with someone attracted to you - friendzone that Sim, making your intentions very clear, and stop them from bothering you. Or you’re not looking for a stable relationship, but instead, for a one night stand with a hot Sim - make it clear by being upfront about it. Establishing your intentions speeds up the process, avoiding the needless amount of socializing to achieve your goal.


Perfect Partner [Future]

Not being someone’s type doesn’t mean you’re out of luck. Getting to know the Sim should allow you to learn why you’re not being seen as attractive. Gaining that valuable knowledge allows you to adjust your looks and become what is desirable to them. When you’re desperate to be with that one person, trying to impress them might be the only thing left sometimes. Adjusting your looks can make a huge difference.


Story Progression [Future]

Sims attractiveness could lead to the creation of romantic pairs or friends with benefits via Story Progression. Sims that find each other very attractive might consider meeting and developing a relationship. And without you even knowing, now they are together.

Attractiveness being the only indicator of who fits together isn’t enough for a reliable romance Story Progression, but it could contribute to it in the future.


Technical Details

  • The ‘Sims Attractiveness Switch‘ setting allows the user to globally disable attractiveness in the entire world.
  • The ‘Attractiveness Relationship Scoring Switch‘ setting allows the user to globally disable attractiveness from influencing relationships building.
  • The ‘Attractiveness Storytelling Switch‘ setting allows the user to globally disable attractiveness storytelling notifications and moodlets.




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Jessica M

Oh how I've been waiting for this!! THANKYOU so much!! Can't wait to go gone and try this out 🤗🤗🤗🤗

Lupobianco Animations

We are at a new level here thank you TURBODRIVER! I hope we can work together again! 😊

Kya

Wonderful!! Thank you for all you do! <3

Eastwick

Sounds like a good new system, but because of the removed stuff, I would have to start a whole new game, and ive put in too much work with people and houses for that. I appreciate your hard work though.

MarnieParnie

Ty so much but I'm not dl until the removed features are back

Anonymous

how about you rename the removed features to something generic like 'restricted mode' or something. anyways this stuff all looks great. I'ma jump onto it once the next piece of sims 4 content comes out.

Anonymous

how can i have the templates for create a a translation?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! I don't release translation template files this early because I might be altering text very frequently right after a release. You will have to wait for that longer.

Anonymous

Very cool. Attractiveness has been a big deal while i'm playing Sims 3 Kinky World. Thanks ! I'll try this out right away !

Kedokata

I know you can't say anything on the removed features right now... But I really, REALLY hope a solution can be found. Maybe an unofficial mod or something. Is WW moddable?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Once Patreon responds, which shouldn't take longer than 24 hours, I will make sure to update you all on this matter.

Anonymous

Hey I really like this update. some quick questions though: how long does it take for patreon to decide if those removed features are fine or not? ( incest wasn't a big deal in my games so far but teen to especially young adult romance) and my 2nd question is: how does CC clothes/hair stuff like that work with the attraction system?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! I don't know, I don't work for Patreon, but whenever I contact them, it takes less than 24 hours. As long as the CC clothing and other content is properly tagged, the system will recognize everything just fine, except custom skin tones. One or two pieces that are incorrectly tagged should not make a huge difference in most situations too.

Priscah Frazier

Sometimes I think EA/Maxis should just hire you but then they'd probably try to hold back your potential which is beyond them. Thank you for all you do TurboDriver!

fhtshop

I won't be installing this one till Patron is sorted.

~Marishafly~

I like the update, but the loss of the 'Romance age Restriction' has interfered with my game play. As I use it mainly for the Teen/Young Adult for when they age up. Otherwise they're going to loose the relationships. I think I'll wait to see what is decided.

SL

Do NOT want to see a removal of Romance Age Restrictions. Keep THAT, and remove all the new features. I liked the game the way that it was. Never asked for any changes.

Anonymous

Hey! Regardless of the new additions, TURBODRIVER would have to remove what he removed. He will update everyone again once the investigation is over.

Jennacide

I like the sound of these new features, I've been wanting a more developed attraction system, at least in sims 2 sims could have turn ons and turn offs, I didn't get into the sims 3 so I don't know if they had anything like that.

Tiffany Crystal

Grrr, Patreon....Stop messing with our modders!

Anonymous

Two relationship features removed. That's a big deal. Perhabs "extended" version of the mod should be uploaded in some other place. Damn these puritanical rules = (

Sam_GoOd_Burger

Um, is there any chance you'll make a tutorial on how use these new features? Like, Wicked Whims attraction features for dummies? lol I need help!!!

wickedwoohoo

Hey! For the most part everything is happening on its own. Once you get into the game, all of your Sims will have their preferences generated based on the rules explained in the post. You can adjust them by clicking on a Sim and then going into the "Attractiveness" pie menu. Once your Sim has preferences that fit your needs, all of the magic is already in play. The base implementation allows Sims to recognize attractiveness and follow it. And when a very attractive enters the play, storytelling will do its thing. Future releases will introduce ways of learning and affecting Sims preferences, as well as building relationships on top of it. :D

wild_guy

Removing of teen-adult romantic/sexual relationships and incest totally breaks my game. I really don't want to play if this features unavailable anymore. Can they be returned back in the future? What the investigation from the Patreon mentioned in description?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Once Patreon responds in relation to the investigation, which shouldn't take longer than 24 hours, I will make sure to update everyone on this matter.

TL-Hero

Thank you for this awesome sounding and big updated. Do the NPC Sims (aka townies) have random generated preferences upon spawning or adding to the world? Or do the preferences only found on active household sims? In other words if I'm playing Summer Holiday, will the Landgraab son in an unplayed household have his own preferences (which i would not be aware of?) Do the sims reveal what they are attracted to or we learn from interacting with them (like we do their Impressions type)?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Thanks! Every Sim in the world has their preferences generated, which is explained in more detail in the last part of the "Refined Taste" text. Currently, there is no real way of learning other Sims preferences, I had to cut that from this release to be able to finish it, but that's next. It's explained under the "Perfect Partner" text.

Kevin Clemmer

Yeah, umm,..no. Without the relationship/romance age restriction toggle it wrecks the way I play. Teens and elderly vampires no more? And what's the fun of a step sibling if you can't knock the bottom out with a bathroom quickie? I'll wait to see what shakes out.

Lina Armstrong

Wow!!! Can’t wait to play this.

Anonymous

This reminds me of the Sims 2 preferences!! But what about cc hair? I'd imagine it couldn't accurately go by preference of length or color with cc right?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Yeah, it's a lot like it. And as long as the CC creator tagged their content properly, it's all fine. The only thing that doesn't get properly detected are additional CC skin tones.

Bull

This is lit!

Anonymous

Wow, this looks really cool but I'll wait until the Age Restriction issue is solved before I download though. I'm afraid this update will break my current save.

Jessica M

I meant to ask earlier of there is a scope room or check sim out option on one of the pie menus so we can see who our sims are really attracted too when were on a lot?

Naturebee

hmm the teenage/incest removal takes me out of this mod. Really like the freedom to make any sort of sims, wicked or not. Thanks for updates so far though!

wickedwoohoo

Hey! For the most part Sims just "know" and that affects the relationship, but I like this idea. Having a more direct way of knowing these things can change quite a bit, I will look into it, thanks!

Anonymous

I appreciate that you gotta play ball with the staff and I hope that a compromise or workaround can be found! Good luck and great work on the new system, it looks and sounds intense!

Anonymous

I left a message at LL regarding this too as I'm sure you're already considering various options x

instantmagic

Hmmm....maybe we could call aaggee rreessttrriiccttiioonnss and iinncceesstt something else as this has to do with a video game and not real life.

Anonymous

I see there is no extra skin tones package with this download? Do I keep the one I have or is it now imbedded in this file?

Cilcium

Please put those features back.

Mizu

I'm trying to find the way to choose what's attractive, but I can't find it. Am I just dumb...? ;A:

Anonymous

you could also do what Deaderpool does and have a separate module for the age restrictions and incest and we can download it from LL or your website

instantmagic

Yep, what video game mania said (above) also noticed fairly quickly that the ability to buy parts off of the sims computer is gone, even with level 10 handiness. Also the ability to change the weather with MCCC is causing an exception and weather won't change. I do not have mods that deal with either of these two things.

Anonymous

Hey! TURBODRIVER cannot do that. Those features cannot be brought back into the Patreon release. Once he receives a reply from Patreon about the end of the investigation, he will give an update about what he's going to do.

Anonymous

Hello! I'm not seeing the ability to buy parts gone on my side, and the Sim I looked at it on has level 3 Handiness. As for MC and the weather not changing, it's not because of WW. I tested the game with only MC and WW and the weather changes as intended.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! The extra skin tones package is unchanged and you can always download it from the WickedWhims website.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! You can click on any Sim to do that, it's a pie menu that shows up as deep as possible, click to show more options. You will see 'Attractiveness' and the ability to edit it for selected Sims. In the menu you select what to edit and on the left side you choose what the selected Sims like, and on the right side what they dislike.

Erik Liggan

Are you aware of the free giveaway of Sims 4 on Origin? I can't even find what version it is, but the game says its up to date. WW only loads 4 animations, no other animations work. Installing things seems pretty simple, but the folders and files mentioned in all help things on loverslab and other net sources don't even exist (.cfg, that cache file, and even the mods folder itself). Game is default installation programs>origin games>sims 4. Your site has good links for things, but not the help section. It also seems old, it even has a tumblr link in it. The installation concept is simple, just the folder for 'mods' has to be created, but it only is recognizing WW and no animations (default 4). Is there a way to fix this, or at least is this on your list of things to do?

Anonymous

Hey! Sounds like you may be installing mods and CC incorrectly. The installation page on TURBODRIVER's website is correct, even if it hasn't been edited in a while. It shows you where to install WW, and other mods for that matter. The default installation folder isn't the folder you look for. The Mods folder is usually automatically created once the game starts once. You go to Documents/Electronic Arts/The Sims 4. Once there, you will see the Mods folder. Inside that folder is a file called the Resource.cfg. That file is required to have mods and CC work. Do not delete it. Even if you do, the game will automatically regenerate a new one when the game starts again. This is the folder you install mods and CC in. Since you seem to be just starting out with mods, I'd recommend that you start organizing now so if you install a ton of CC, you won't have issues finding broken CC down the road with future game patches. Mods like WW can only be either directly inside the Mods folder or nested 1 folder deep. This is because WW is a script mod. Scripts won't work if they're nested too deep in the Mods folder. WW only comes with a few default animations. Additional animations are available on LoversLab and you can find links to animations on TURBODRIVER's website under the Download section. There's a lot of animators listed there. Does that clear up any confusion?

marrkkonn

It was mentioned that some CC parts like skintones (and upon playing I believe certain non-default eyecolors) won't be registered properly by the attractiveness system. Based on this, might a function where you can choose to select an override of sorts for what a sim registers as be appropriate? Say you have a sim with a CC skintone or CC eyes and it's not registered properly by the attractiveness system, you can then select them and manually set what skintone archetype and eye color they will register as. Speaking of functions, another one where you can display a list of all the specific attractiveness parts/values/traits a certain sim possesses might also be useful (for an example in finding out if CC stuff registers properly).

wickedwoohoo

Hey! For skin tones, there is simply no way to read data off them, so even if I would like to have some kind of detection, I just can't. The only reason default skin tones are detected is because I know a user has to have them, but any CC skin tones just won't ever be detected. So having a way to define a skin tone per Sim could be a solution for it, yes. I will think about it. When it comes to eye color, this is somewhat a fault of the game design. There is a limited number of colors and the "unnatural" color is called "amber" which confuses a lot of creators. It would easier to open up the packages with the eye color mods with Sims4Studio and edit the tags, it's very simple. Adjusting that per Sim in-game seems like a lot more work, unless you have a very design-focused world without random townies. The possession of attractive traits is kind of complicated, as only a few of them can be considered 100% possessed. Most of the attractive traits get distributed via sub categories that squash the numbers to balance the power of these traits. So your Sim can something like 5% red clothing color just because a part of an outfit has a red colored detail, but that 5% isn't very meaningful. That could be a sign of improper tagging, or a user might think it is, but there is a small red detail. It's difficult to decide what should be tagged and what shouldn't be, so it can get confusing. You can list all of the Sim current attractive traits with the 'ww.display_sim_attractive_traits' command, but I wouldn't pay too much attention to some of the random attractive traits that show up. Even though a small red details on your shirt might be counted, it introduces a little bit of fuzziness to the results which helps attractiveness have varied attraction boundaries.

Anonymous

Just about had it with patreon. Commercial companies deciding which content I can access is not OK. Would very much appreciate it if you were to find a different avenue to take donations. I really don't want patreon to have any of my money and I sincerely hope a creative solution to this can be found.

Anonymous

Hi I tried downloading the latest download and it says for tuning part that I need administrator permission. How do I fix that?

Anonymous

Beware the thought police haha. It's funny, I saw a popular tv show where half the entire plot was based on an incestuous relationship. Can't think of the name. It'll come to me.... :P

wickedwoohoo

Hey! This is all on your computer, I don't require any administrator permissions, so make sure to extract the files in a place that is safe and place the files into the Mods folder manually.

Nick Gabrielson

pretty cool this just got posted on Sims Community in regards to the Attractiveness System. Nicely done.

instantmagic

Yes, my whole sim save had a similar story line to Game of Thrones it is all ruined now. I really think turbodriver should change insest (sic) to Familial Bond and Change the teen adult thing to Generational Love or something like that in case there is a search engine to search for those terms. The thought police should really think about whether or not this is a video game thing and NOT a real life thing.

instantmagic

Is this new attractive system voluntary or involuntary? Meaning can we not use it if we don't want to? I'm asking because I think to set this up on all 106 of my sims would be time consuming. Or is this meant to be used on only the active sim household. It's pretty cool-though I'll have to learn how to use it. It has taken me a long time to navigate both WW and MCCC but I learned it! I'll learn this too.

Anonymous

Preferences are automatically added to each Sim when you first load WW. You don't have to change them unless you want to be super specific on each and every Sim. There's settings where you can disable attractiveness globally, but not per Sim.

Sven Saavedra

Wait is there no more incest or teen relationships?

Anonymous

Hi Turbodriver, thanks for the great mod! I have a question, is there anyway i can have your mod and my pregnancy mod by ArtUrlWWW working together? Your mod seems to be blocking my pregnancy mod some how.

Brian Zaenglein

If you're talking about Pregnancy Mega Mod, just get MCCC instead. MCCC does everything PMM does, and LOTS more.

Brian Zaenglein

If in fact a workaround file were to hypothetically be uploaded to Lover's Lab, would we need to avoid mentioning it here? And if we did need to avoid mentioning such a hypothetical file, how would we get the word out? hypothetically speaking, of course...

Daniel Lawrence

I would presume, hypothetically speaking of course, you'd want to simply spread it through word of mouth, and in private...

Daniel Lawrence

Just don't expect them to return though...prepare for any bad news that might be coming.

Jette Møller

since the latest two update i keep having the wavy lines around my sims phones ALL THE TIME- even when they are at work and the lot is empty. it started yesterday when i downloaded a WW update but it´s still there after the second update same day. can you help?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! That means the phone is silenced. Click on it and on top you will find an icon with a speaker, clicking it will unsilence the phone. WickedWhims silences the phone by default during sex, to avoid interruption. You can disable that in settings, but if you want to keep it and find that the silence state isn't removed properly, please let me know.

MarnieParnie

https://pastebin.com/vsaPvGH8

Anonymous

Are the teen-adult relationships, gone for good?!?!?!?

D Love

Turbo...do I need to supply mods for my Sims genitals Or does WW supply the genitals? Thx...

Brian Zaenglein

As far as Patreon releases, yes. And we can't discuss what certain degenerates may or may not have uploaded on other sites.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! No, a set of male and female genitalia are included by default, but if you find anything that you like better, you can install it and switch it on with the Body Selector in-game.

Brian Zaenglein

I just saw something I've never seen before, maybe it was a glitch from the peeping feature, maybe unrelated. I had a toddler wandering around outdoors on my lot. He's not related to any of my sims, doesn't belong there at all, home for him is in another zone entirely-- he's from the Feng household, which is in San Myshuno, and my household is Partihaus, in Windenburg.

Brian Zaenglein

Loving the Attractiveness feature. I have a couple that I fiddled with so that each is exactly what the other really likes. They're building their friendship bar really slowly- because they can't seem to just have a conversation, they end up having sex in no time at all.

wickedwoohoo

I've seen Sims routing freak out and make them walk through my house even though they are just walking by. Haven't seen them just walking around on the lot though.

Marvin

Anyone have any tips on how to play with attractiveness?

Anonymous

I love the new update with Attractiveness. I have updated my mods, but the game keeps crashing. Can I get advice on what I should fix?

Anonymous

I really enjoy this mod and the various elements it adds to the game! I really enjoy playing WW and Nisa's mod together. I know there is a conflict with Nisa's mod and Wicked Whims. Does anyone know when Nisa will update her mod as well? Thanks for the updates btw!

Brian Zaenglein

So many ways to play around with it. I have a couple, Eva Capricosa and a retired Father Winter. I messed with their likes so that she's into fat old men with beards, and he likes young chubby girls with big butts and boobs. They can hardly have a conversation without running off to the bedroom. Or set up your sim with specific likes and dislikes, and visit busy public places- you'll get a popup when you encounter someone who checks most of the boxes. Who will be your dream sim?

Freyya_

Pretty sure Nisa already made a hotpatch update to work with this one :)

SimplyRod

sims with attractive traits can't have sex with other sims they're not in love.

SimplyRod

Excuse me I made a mistake in my words, I meant sims with sexually alluring traits can no longer have sex with other sims they're not in love.

Anonymous

I can confirm that. In my case sims with that trait can't invite other sims to join the fun. They just refuse.

Anonymous

is desire still a thing in this mod? does the attractiveness affect this at all. when i say desire im talking about the one with the moodlets

Marvin

I have a question about Martians, aka "Aliens". Does attraction apply to both disguise and natural appearance forms? How does that work? Is there a way to change the weighting for each attractiveness feature?

Brian Zaenglein

Desire is indeed still there, and it definitely triggers from interactions and seeing partners naked. I don't know if it can trigger from seeing an attractive sim though, I haven't yet had one of my sims just spot someone they fancied.

Anonymous

Can you make the dick bigger then the balls, it would be hot if the limp hung down his legs. Like an older man. And a bulge in there pants like you know they have a big dick. I want turbo to make 1, I don’t or won’t download 1 that someone else makes I want him to create 1 on or for my household.

xXAlphaWolfGamesXx

my sims cant have sex period only with there selves

Brian Zaenglein

I'll let someone who knows more comment about aliens and disguised form, but for weighting, the closest thing would be to dislike the opposite of a liked feature. I do think it would be cool to have like one feature that's a major turn-on though.

Sam_GoOd_Burger

Has the teen/adult relationship been added back in, or is that no longer a feature of the wicked whims mod? I need it for my story line.

Anonymous

Hi there!. I am experiencing a lag everytime I open the Wicked configuration menu (be it by clicking on a sim, or clicking anywhere at all). Not the sex interaction menu, the settings menu. It just freezes the game for a while (animations that already started finish and then the sims freeze) and the time freezes as well. Is anyone there having that too? Besides that, how do I access the atractiveness menu?

Brian Zaenglein

Not seeing unusual lag myself. But the Attractiveness menu is its own new tab when you click on a sim, just look for the heart shaped magnet.

Brian Zaenglein

Just had the first couple of storytelling popups happen, one for each of a married couple. First, the husband got one, basically reflecting how lucky he is to be married to a goddess like his wife. Then she got one-- she found Max Villareal highly attractive. If I had had this feature since I started this particular game, the attractiveness system might be aware that her type is "has a pulse."

Anonymous

how do you set your attractiveness preferences?

Anonymous

Hey! Click on your Sim and navigate to the Attractiveness pie menu button. It's not off of the Wicked menu. It's on its own.

Anonymous

Hi! If you look through the comments, you can find information about it.

Anonymous

Hello! There are underwear on LL and elsewhere that add bulges. They'd have to be replacements to add it to every bottom. More penises are also listed on the download page of TURBODRIVER's website. There's also more that you can find by going through LL.

Anonymous

I cant find the 'Romance Age Restrictions' feature (teen-adult relationships. has it been removed? Or how can I find it so my there is no age restrictions.. love to play without the age restrictions sometime my teen like older men.

Anonymous

Hi, was just wondering if it is possible to enable shower woohoo to increase hygiene?

Martin VG

Hi, yes it was removed as stated in the post. Relationships [!] Removed 'Romance Age Restrictions' feature (teen-adult relationships) [!] Removed 'Incest' feature (global setting and trait)

Anonymous

Is there any way to initiate sex without using romance interactions? I don't want the romance meter going up whenever my Sims have sex.

Freyya_

You can disable that in the settings I think, my romance meter went crazy for my prostitute before haha

Martin VG

Terrific update mate. Thanks a lot.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! I can't find any reason why WickedWhims would be crashing anybody's game. Most of the game crashing is caused by the rendering side of the game. Any kind of Custom Content clothing or furniture can cause crashing, as well as animation. Please check if you haven't installed anything recently that could contribute to it. https://wickedwhimsmod.com/game-crash/

wickedwoohoo

Hey! You mean sex interactions in shower? It is something I'm planning, which would be handled by a tagging system for animations that provide additional functions, like increasing hygiene.

Anonymous

Hey, so I'm a little confused with the attractiveness update. As far as preferences go, are we only supposed to pick a few and then there's a specific sim that has those chosen qualities? Or does the mod pick Sims who have some of the preferences chosen by our played sim? I'm not getting a single notification of my sim finding anyone attractive so I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong?

Anonymous

It’s weird because I’m not getting a single notifications of my sim finding anyone attractive and my teen male sim has a girlfriend but I’m also not getting the notification of storytelling as well

Anonymous

Okay, so at least I'm not the only one. Since I got the mod update I've gotten only two notifications. So maybe it's a bug? Update: so I'm leaning to there being a bug cause I just changed my Sims attractiveness traits to prefer males over females and I got a notification of her being attracted to a girl? 🤷🏾‍♀️

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Every Sim in the world is an individual, with their own attractive traits, and their own attractiveness preferences. You can pick whatever you want, but the more general you are, the harder is it to find someone who fits all you like. The more specific you are, the harder is it to find someone who fits enough of what you like, but if you do, it's that much more powerful. If you want to be precise with what a Sim likes, do whatever you think is best for that Sim, and they might eventually find someone who is good enough for their preferences. Just like in real life, being too picky will make it harder, and being too general doesn't really make anybody too interesting to stick with. Getting a storytelling notification requires a Sim to be found VERY attractive, like the 10% of the most attractive Sims there are. I did increase that number to 12.5% with the most recent update, after reading your response. Tweaking that value might be necessary, so I'm giving it a try. Finding that insanely attractive Sim that fits all of your check boxes (or most of them) is rare and special. You're not supposed to be in awe with every person you meet on the street. And in that regard, it looks like it's working just fine.

Anonymous

This is amazing. Thank you for all your hard work!

Lakisha Walker

Hey I downloaded Wicked whims it's showing I have a last exception but it's not showing up where I usually find them so it's like it don't exist. Also now wicked whims isn't even showing up in my game. disappointing I just purchased this tier the other day please help.

TheLibrarian

Super disappointing to lose the age restriction settings, I understand why though but what a bummer.

Anonymous

Hey, mods great. Keep up the good work. Are solo satisfaction moodlets not a thing anymore? Cause they have not been triggering for me.

Anonymous

Why has the age restriction settings been removed?

Brian Zaenglein

As stated in the patch notes, Patreon community guidelines. We can't discuss the possibility of a workaround here, you'll have to ask about that on another forum.

Anonymous

Quick question on the miscarriage numbers. I have 2 vampire sims and the wife got pregnant twice, miscarried both times. The first happened after she ate some food with the withered stomach weakness(first trimester), and the second was right after finishing a glass of alcohol(second trimester). Just want to make sure it's working as intended. Long time lurker, doing a great job with the development of this mod. Keep up the great work!

Anonymous

hello! quick question, so I downloaded this version but this is not showing up in game at all. it is as if I did not download it. Does this mod not work with any other mods downloaded as you are aware? It shows up in my list of scripted mods. I do not know whats going on lol

Brian Zaenglein

Hey, something I've been seeing for quite a while, but it finally occurred to me I should say something... On lots that are right next to the mini-parks with a vendor stall, the vendors will walk right into your house and watch porn. You don't ever have to have met them, they don't say a word to you, they just walk right in, watch porn at the computer, then leave and get back to work.

Anonymous

hiya after installing the new update i keep a pop up that says im running your mod out of date.

Anonymous

hey just a quick question, will there ever be different penis sizes of the default WW penis? idk I like the default one the most compared to other penis mods but I'd love to have different sizes for different sims

wild_guy

I would think like you unless I didn't make animations. This would cause problems for some kind of animations, believe me the single size is better because it's universal.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! If you received an information from WickedWhims about an exception, then it specifically tells you the name of the file you should be looking for. It's not going to be lastException.txt. And if you just joined, you're most likely using content that is not compatible with this release.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Thanks! As of right now, no, there aren't any. I will come back to the satisfaction moodlets at some point, they need quite some work to be up-to-date with everything else.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! With how mangled some miscarriage data got in the past releases, that Sim might have had some left over data that could have triggered one. Otherwise, any drug use contributes to a miscarriage occurring, including alcohol. Seems quite unfortunate, but it depends if you altered the pregnancy duration. Shorter pregnancies will have it happen a lot more often than longer. It's possible that it doesn't work as intended and the chances are off, I would need to test it properly whenever I find a moment.

wickedwoohoo

Hm, that's a problematic one, I don't see the possibility of it happening. It doesn't make sense that they would be allowed indoors in the first place. I can try implement one thing for that, it might help in general with any occurrence like this.

megg c

my sims apparently don't find anyone attractive? lol ive messed around with the attractiveness and what they like etc and made my sims gf to his liking, along with others and get nothing .. any advice ?

Marvin

Is there a way to get an attraction score of another sim other than to wait around the bar and see who pops up in the message box?

Anonymous

Hello! Are you still having this issue? TURBODRIVER fixed this in 143.6.

Anonymous

Hello! Yeah, it was something that came up really suddenly for TURBODRIVER. Luckily it was right before he released this update so he didn't have to fix it right after he released it, but if you look around on the forums, I think there might be a mod there that adds it back.

Anonymous

Hey! The most common mistake is not having it downloaded correctly. Look here for a tutorial on how to correctly install the mod (note: you have to look at the paths and make sure you're installing it in the correct location and not too deep inside the Mods folder) https://wickedwhimsmod.com/manual-mod-installation/

Anonymous

Hi! In case you didn't see it, here's what TURBODRIVER explained to the comment above: "You can pick whatever you want, but the more general you are, the harder is it to find someone who fits all you like. The more specific you are, the harder is it to find someone who fits enough of what you like, but if you do, it's that much more powerful. If you want to be precise with what a Sim likes, do whatever you think is best for that Sim, and they might eventually find someone who is good enough for their preferences. Just like in real life, being too picky will make it harder, and being too general doesn't really make anybody too interesting to stick with. Getting a storytelling notification requires a Sim to be found VERY attractive, like the 10% of the most attractive Sims there are. I did increase that number to 12.5% with the most recent update, after reading your response. Tweaking that value might be necessary, so I'm giving it a try. Finding that insanely attractive Sim that fits all of your check boxes (or most of them) is rare and special. You're not supposed to be in awe with every person you meet on the street. And in that regard, it looks like it's working just fine."

Anonymous

Hello! This is what TURBODRIVER explained to someone with the same issue: "You can pick whatever you want, but the more general you are, the harder is it to find someone who fits all you like. The more specific you are, the harder is it to find someone who fits enough of what you like, but if you do, it's that much more powerful. If you want to be precise with what a Sim likes, do whatever you think is best for that Sim, and they might eventually find someone who is good enough for their preferences. Just like in real life, being too picky will make it harder, and being too general doesn't really make anybody too interesting to stick with. Getting a storytelling notification requires a Sim to be found VERY attractive, like the 10% of the most attractive Sims there are. I did increase that number to 12.5% with the most recent update, after reading your response. Tweaking that value might be necessary, so I'm giving it a try. Finding that insanely attractive Sim that fits all of your check boxes (or most of them) is rare and special. You're not supposed to be in awe with every person you meet on the street. And in that regard, it looks like it's working just fine."

Anonymous

Hi! It's in the post for a future update. Under 'Perfect Partner [Future].'

Brian Zaenglein

What might have happened is that you dropped the new update into the wrong folder, or accidentally made a new subfolder-- e.g. mods/WickedWhimsMod/WickedWhimsMod/

Anonymous

This DRAMATICALLY slows my game down. Any actions my sims take are delayed ten-fold. Was not like this prior to mod installation.

Anonymous

i cant get an adult and a teen get sex together. they are family but both have the incest perk. i have the teen sex option enabled. what can I do about this?

Anonymous

Hey! Teen/adult romance and incest are no longer part of the Patreon release (public release to be determined) due to Patreon's community guidelines. You will need to seek help elsewhere if you are experiencing these issues.

Anonymous

I don't mean to beat a dead horse here but... SKIN problems.... I think that maybe something in WW is blocking wildguys skins from working correctly. The only sim that gets the full working skin are Adult female sims. The only solution I have found to get those skins working correctly is to remove WW. I had posted before (and gotten replied to [thank you btw]) on another thread for a previous WW update just a few weeks ago. This problem started for me after one of the April WW updates. I have not made any changes to my game or to my CC that would prompt this issue. I have run my game pretty clean for years with the exception of WW and a few animations and selective CC clothing. Help?

Anonymous

My teen Sim is showing she’s automatically on Birth Control but I never put her on any and she’s pregnant.

Anonymous

I'm just a new supporter and I really love your mod, My heart are brokend that I saw your reprot is already removed teen-adult relationshipsT_T.. But I still love your mod

Anonymous

How do I get to the “attractiveness generator”?

Anonymous

I hate to beat a dead horse, but is there any possibility of getting the all ages romance option back? My teen sims don't always age up on the same day, and having their relationships suddenly go cold because of a birthday party is the main issue I started using wicked to address. Is there someone we can petition? Or an alternative to Patreon where an uncensored version can be hosted?

Anonymous

Nevermind I reset the game with a new folder and re installed W.W.

Anonymous

SO, I went and reintsalled WW version 4.3.5.140.8 - 8 March 2019 (which was the version I was using before the April update that caused the problem with FBD not working properly) WITHOUT CHANGING ANYTHING ELSE and wildguy's FBD worked just fine. Seems to be something went awry with WW at the April update........

wickedwoohoo

Hey! I can't tell you anything helpful with this information, as that is in no way an occurrence in my game and I'm not getting reports of an issue like this except the few. Lag of the game simulation can be cause by plenty of different reasons, but since I'm not seeing it as an issue with WickedWhims, you need to consider combinations of problems. Any mod, including clothing, furniture, custom traits, and combinations of even unrelated mods can contribute to a cause of lag that may be chain reaction or simply an overload of the game. Without you performing a proper test for your individual case, nothing can be concluded. If you're suspecting a specific mod, like WickedWhims, to be a cause the problem, a proper test requires you to wipe your Mods folder of ALL files and install just WickedWhims. By isolating one mod from everything else you can make a clear assessment of the state of your issue and extrapolate helpful information.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Just click on any adult Sim in the game, reveal more options, and you will see an "Attractiveness" tab. The generators are there.

Anonymous

Hey, I'm just coming back to the Sims after a few months and enjoying all the new updates, but I'm experiencing an issue with the peepers that is driving me mad. The game keeps spawning more of them. I can't rename them because WW will just spawn another to replace the one I renamed, Now I got multiple clones of Tom and Tina working every job at every venue I show up to and it's killing immersion. Is there any possible way to stop WW from spawning Tom and Tina? Is it possible to make a new household, give them the peeping trait and have those two never spawn again? I actually like the NPCs you made, I just don't like having 6 identical sims in every venue.

Anonymous

Oh, and 2 other things. When I renamed and replaced the peeping sims the problem I ran into was that those households would be hidden as well, so now I have sims I can't delete because they don't show up under households. And the other thing is that I'm pretty sure I know why this is happening because its the same reason I have to make a household full of premade butlers, maids, nannies, etc. I've noticed that if you visit another lot and a service sim that works for you shows up to it and then you go back home, the game will pull a different sim of the same job to replace them, or if none exists it will create a new one because that sim is already loaded into another lot. I keep households of 3 of each that have the uniforms I want them in so it can cycle through instead of giving me people I dont want working in my home. Its probably why WW is spawning a peeper apocalypse in my game. Is there any way to show hidden households so I can at least delete them periodically?

Anonymous

Could I suggest a 'Consider Attractive' interaction? I think this feature was an Nrass mod feature for TS3. How it would work is you would click on a Sim & select the 'Consider Attractiveness' a pop up would appear with a message from your Sim & a rating they give that Sim out of 10. Sims who scored 8+ also got a moodlet. Think it was called 'Attractive Company'. They would have this moodlet whenever they was in proximity of the Sim(s) they consider attractive.

Anonymous

I was thinking the same thing. That would be awesome tbh

Anonymous

Hey! There may be something on the forums that can add it back. Those features are no longer part of WW itself, however.

Anonymous

I don't know if this is a bug or not but my Sim is alone at home and still gained naturism level 2 without doing something

Anonymous

https://pastebin.com/PGuvG95g

Sirena

I got a WW exception error. https://pastebin.com/zxNaUHis

Brian Zaenglein

It has been tuned to go SO fast now, that if he was naked (even all alone like that) or even wearing his sleep outfit, that's all it takes. Up until sometime this past fall, naturism progressed at a rate that seemed about right. Then it changed, probably with the Get Famous patch, and went very, very slowly. Then it got re-tuned, and now it's "why bother making us level it" fast.

Megaira

I have to say, so far I'm loving this attraction system, I've been testing it out and it's fantastic. I even have sims that I purposefully make as funny looking as possible, and with this system there are still beautiful sims that find them attractive..absolutely <3 that XD

Anonymous

can someone tell me how to turn off age restriction?????????

Anonymous

I have downloaded this version several times.. Every time I do, my game doesn't allow me to select things for at least a minute, and when i do click the interaction menu does not come up in a minute as well. And when I select an action they don't do it for at least another 2 minutes. My game is up to date and i can't think of any other mods that are reacting poorly with WW?

Brian Zaenglein

Ok, so I loaded a game I haven't played in quite a while. Seems I played it long enough to finish the Strangerville storyline though. Anyway, the household lives in the big house that's empty at the beginning of a new game in Stangerville. Tina has showed up, but doesn't seem to see what is happening inside. She's had a naked human female right in front of her window, but doesn't react. And then something really funny-- the human female's wife-- or husband, or whatever-- is an alien shemale. She has tried to invite Tina in, but Tina flees in terror. My sim doesn't get the moodlets for having been seen by a peeper, so, near as I can tell, the alien shemale just freaks Tina out.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Looks maybe like an issue with an object trying to play a function animation. Most likely can be ignored.

wickedwoohoo

That's good news :D You can't escape beauty. The weirder they get, they more unique they get, and unique can be seen as attractive. And the more generic you get, the more you fit in with majority. ;)

wickedwoohoo

Hey! The more information you can provide, the better. If you can start by isolating mods and giving me info on that, it will be a huge step forward. Try creating a fresh new Mods folder and putting a fresh WW installation in there, without any other extra content. Then create a new world and give it test. You can try loading your original save too and giving it a try, just remember to not save. Let me know how that goes.

Brian Zaenglein

Ok, no, it's not the alien shemale apparently, because Tina also runs away from the regular female. Just something odd about this lot I guess?

lesim

Why did the total sxx hours disappear from the sim statistics?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! The need of reimplementation of statistics for better consistency forced me to avoid counting minutes (it wasn't hours) to not affect the game performance. With recently reimplemented save system, which assures overall save data consistency, another reimplementation of statistics would allow for more granular data to be tracked.

Mothra's Handler

So, I have the teen sex switch on, but I still can't have them interact sexually. I dunno if I've done something wrong or what.

Anonymous

My sims are no longer having their period. The ovulation and fertility is still normal, but they aren't having the period. No period buffs either.

Brian Zaenglein

That switch allows teens to have sex with other teens. If the would-be partner is an adult, that would require the now-removed Romance Age Restriction option.

Punished "Venom" Link

My sims are stuck in a infinite sex loop. I can't exit them out of sex animations like i used to.

Brian Zaenglein

So I just opened the game and... it looks like we may be needing a new "Sand in Places It Shouldn't Be" moodlet...

icyhugs

"[!] Removed 'Romance Age Restrictions' feature (teen-adult relationships)" Ouch! That hurts! My high school Sim-self has been missing the touch of his college senpai since the update (sobs)

wickedwoohoo

Hey! It's possible for a Sim to not have any effects during period, it's not always obvious or awful.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Exit them, you mean cancel the sex interaction? Have you check if any lastException files have been created?

Anonymous

Hey, can someone tell me if there's a patch or something on the WW or Lovers Lab website for the age restriction setting. I want to use the Patreon update with some kind of patch if there is one for teen/adult relationships.

Anonymous

I'm replying to my own question because I received an answer via email shortly after I posted this. Problem solved, thank you!

Anonymous

I've been trying for a really long time to make two sims I have attracted to each other. The guy got it immediately but the girl, no matter how much I try to tweak and change it to exactly how he is, I just can't get it to prompt for her. Does that mean he's too similar to other people? Or am I missing something here?

Anonymous

Is there a way currently to have individual sims opt out of the attractiveness system? (other than manually making everything unattractive to them, haha). I have an asexual sim that I'd like to opt out :)

Anonymous

Hello! As stated in some other comments, there may be something on the forums if you search.

icyhugs

Solution found to let my high school teen self in touch with his college senpai again XD

Marta LoveForever

una pregunta sacaras un mod con la nueva expansión, que se pueda hacer el amor en la playa?

Brian Zaenglein

All it would need is animations for the object being selected. And there's lots of animations already for floor or ground spots. So as long as the game considers the beach as being "the ground," and not some kind of new special surface, sex on the beach should work without anything new needing to be added.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! It's hard to say. It could be that she dislikes the things he has. Or that she likes too many things for his appearance to be significant. Or his appearance is generic enough that it's difficult to like it that much. Or it could be a combination of all three. I would suggest to keep in mind that disliking things is as powerful as liking things. By disliking things that he doesn't have in his appearance will make a difference.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! I have a special cheat trait that would do it on my TODO list. It's a little bit tricky to implement it so I didn't prioritize it, but that will be a thing.

Anonymous

Some feedback: Loving this update! The attraction system is 10x more robust and detailed than I expected. I think the biggest thing I'm missing is some way to quickly quantify how attractive my sim finds other people (if there is a way to make a scale from so many variables!). Like in real life its usually less "hot or not" and more "on a scale of 1-10...". It would be great to be able to "scope out a room" so to say. The other thing is your future update: being able to figure out exactly what another sim likes will be great for storytelling purposes. I can see a sim meeting another sim and changing themselves to their preferences to seduce them. Finally I was surprised to see that high heels weren't included in the preferences :) Since there is height mod compatibility now, maybe height could be a preference also! But overall, this is amazing work, and makes me happy to supporting this mod!

wickedwoohoo

Hey! You should update to version .144 where a way to recognize attractiveness towards other Sims is already a thing. Both of your suggestions have been implemented. I can't really do much with CC right now, it's sort of impossible to detect certain things with enough precision for it to work, but I would like to have popular CC mods supported somehow.

Anonymous

Awesome work! Thank you. Please can you add an option to turn off sweat? Some friends and I aren't a fan.

wickedwoohoo

Hey. Sweating is not in this release. Sweating is available in the next release (.144) and you can disable it in settings like every other existing feature.

Alain

Hello I have a wickedwhims exception https://pastebin.com/41x8v3Lt Bye

Cher151

I've been getting lots of orange exceptions saying wicked Whims & now other mods. I've deleted 5 other mods & am just now deleting WW. I haven't read all the above comments since i'm on my tablet. I think I have to take all my mods out & repair. My game must be damaged. Ugh!

Anonymous

Everything was running pretty smoothly, until my Sim went home after the first opening shift. c: Then a ton of errors were popping up. https://pastebin.com/T4Q0qcfZ