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#475 - I Just Don't Think About It (Patreon)

Published:
2023-11-15 03:06:42
Imported:
2024-06

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We've talked a lot on this podcast about "the end of history" and "lost futures," but how about a world with literally no future? We discuss CHILDREN OF MEN (2006). PLUS: Society is becoming more politicized. What does this mean?

WINDSOR: Luke will be in Windsor to promote his new book Seeking Social Democracy. See him Sunday, November 19 at 5pm at Biblioasis Bookshop: https://biblioasisbookshop.com/events

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joe

This movie went too hard. When they got in that rolls Royce and started blasting king crimson following the hood ornament I thought oh brother someone’s been smoking a little too much wacky tobaccy. Then they drive out to the countryside and it’s a weed toking Michael caine who’s just a little too smart you know what I mean. A little too profound.

Chris Sherman

Appreciated your commentary on the movie, particularly the scene you (and Fischer) discuss with the great artworks. Personally the movie does not work for me and I think it’s of a piece with Cuarón’s filmography in eschewing any kind of programmatic response to the horrors of the present in the name of a vague ‘hope,’ or moments of personal transcendence (like a wild orgy in the midst of Mexico wracked by neoliberal economic transformation.) The move to depict hope precisely in the form of biological reproduction seems pretty conservative to me as it places value on humanity as such, abstracted from political or ideological concerns (and I think this is often the case with the Coens as well.) I can’t deny Cuarón’s technical mastery, but in 2006 I was coming off several years of fairly intense anti-war activism (we lost that battle, folks) and found his appropriation of images of atrocities in the service of his bland and ultimately very ‘light’ message of hope and common humanity to be very distasteful. On the other hand, you’re certainly right about the powerful way in which the film depicts the dystopic or near-dysptoic present. Maybe I’m being too harsh or letting my subjective experiences around that time influence my views. On the other hand, Cuarón’s trajectory since then doesn’t give me much impulse to seriously reconsider. Disagreement notwithstanding, another meaty episode!