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This episode is hosted by Trevor. Today we have special guest Michael "Retroblasting" French!  Host of the youtube channel RetroBlasting, Michael swings thru the studio to talk all things pop culture from a Gen X perspective and what has slipped away from the iconic franchises saturating the current entertainment markets.  Check out RetroBlasting over at www.retroblasting.com

Co-produced & edited by Aaron C. Schroeder / Pierced Ears Recording Co, Seattle WA (www.piercedearsrec.com). Opening theme composed by T. Beaulieu. Closing theme composed by Dustfingaz (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRazhu_)

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Sam Kimelman

This explained so much. Though I wonder to what extent the execs and then directors are responding to consumer demands and the difficulty of getting people into a theater for anything isn’t going to have built-in cultural pressure to see it. But even then it’s up to them to interpret what will generate cachet and they are extremely uncreative when it comes to figuring it out.

Champagne Sharks

Exactly. Even if the state of the movie industry requires such low risk ventures with built in audiences, these people still have no ability to figure out what even makes these properties work in the first place. Then on top of that they are always ashamed of the source material and its original fans and always thinking they have to change it to make it appealing to normies. When the original already was able to appeal to a wide range of people and in the case of Star Wars already had a big base of normies

Sam Kimelman

Part 2 brings it all together where there is an element of consumer (or vocal fan base) demanding they receive constant age-appropriate content based on their beloved IP. I think creators are now using these fictional characters the way they used to use movie stars. Like people would go to a movie just based on who was starring in it (which is still true considering the high ticket sales for Uncut Gems and low audience scores from all the Water Boy fans). Now people go see Joker because it’s centered around a revered Batman character, whereas it’d be super tricky to market that same story without the connection to that world. So the way to tell their stories but also make it high grossing is to just contort the IP to make it work with their idea. The ray of hope in part II is that younger generations will have no sentimental connections to these properties that are now exclusively appealing to their parents and these franchises no longer have to live in perpetuity.