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Once Upon a Time "The Return" 1x19 Reaction (Patreon)

Published:
2019-07-26 03:21:43
Edited:
2019-08-26 04:27:02
Imported:
2021-05

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvrir1lcto50m3y/Once%201X19.m4v?dl=0

Comments

Angela

At first I was disappointed in the August reveal because I thought it was stupid. The twist at the end was way better. I’ve been getting Pinocchio vibes from August, but I could be wrong. It just fits with the whole Pinocchio storyline, and his leg hurting reminds me of different body parts turning to wood. I agree that Emma is a weak character. David is not consistent. The writers are just not doing things right with him. Henry hasn’t been a focal point since the first few episodes and I found that to be weird.

Aimee

I'm totally with you--anything Mr Gold/Rumplestiltskin-focused and I'm all in. Robert Carlyle is old enough to be my father but I have such a crush on him. lol He's the best actor in this cast of pretty great actors. I was excited for this episode because I knew you were gonna enjoy the story. Just three more episodes to go!

Paul Fisher

The girl Baelfire spoke to, whose identity you asked about, is Morraine. She was the girl who was taken away to the Ogre War at the beginning of "Desperate Souls". It was a brief scene so it's easy to forget but it served to establish that the Duke had lowered the draft age in order to use children as cannon fodder, which is what motivated Rumple to become the Dark One in the first place, to save Bae from that fate. And as we were told in this episode, Rumple did use his power to end the Ogre War and bring all the children home. Thanks for a great reaction and I look forward to seeing your reaction to the last three episodes of the season.

Heidi Elizabeth Marcum

Thank you so much! I really love this episode a lot, especially all of the twists and turns with August possibly being Rumple's son, Baelfire, only to later learn that he was only pretending to be so, so that he could get his hands on the Dark One dagger. What a brilliant major storyline between them! :) First... I would love it if you gave a ranking of your favorite and least favorite characters once you finish with season one. I can understand your reasons for disliking David, or at least him being low down on your list of top ten characters. As David during this season, he isn't his best self. Hopefully, his character will grow on you in the seasons to come. For me, he's among one of my favorite characters, but I can say that because I've seen the series in its entirety. And if he remains low on your list of favorite characters, that's completely fine because it's your own opinion, as you have every right to have. I absolutely love Emma too, as well as Henry, though I have to admit that it took some time for Henry's character to grow and for Jared Gilmore's acting to improve. However, I have also always liked him a lot because Henry is just adorable. As for Emma... her character does make mistakes and her superpower is wonky at the strangest of times, but I feel it's mostly because Emma struggles deeply with believing in herself, which you've barely begun to see. You will see much more with her character over time and hopefully she too will move up higher on your favorites list. And as for Sidney... I do agree with you about him. While I do like the actor who plays him... Giancarlo Esposito, even though I have never seen more than the first episode of Breaking Bad with him, with no desire to ever watch more, I think the writers and creators of Once Upon a Time have wasted his character with having him only pop back into the show when it's necessary for him to do so, and to make him Regina's patsy. I loved the idea of Sidney being the Evil Queen's Magic Mirror, and I love how he came to be so, but I don't care too much for Sidney's backstory with him being a genie from Agrabah, like I stated back in my comments for your reaction for Fruit of the Poisonous Tree. Especially if he is supposed to be the Genie from Aladdin, which I don't believe him to be. All that aside... I love how August's character is further developed throughout this episode and the mystery still presented by him being here in Storybrooke. I love how Gold comes to be haunted by who August could be, especially when he later comes to suspect that he's quite possibly his own son, who we finally learn within the flashbacks what happened to him and how he and Rumple came to be split apart. I'll get back to the flashbacks in a bit. After Gold catches August snooping in the back of his office, he later speaks with Emma about finding out whether or not she trusts him. And I really like Emma's smug response as she states, "I trust him more than I trust you." Smart. :) Next, Gold then enters August's room at Granny's Bed and Breakfast and snoops around looking for any hints of who he might be, and then finds a drawing of his dagger among August's things. However, it isn't really until he talks with the Blue Fairy, who is cursed as Mother Superior in Storybrooke. And upon blackmailing her with the threat to raise her rent, Gold learns what he already began to suspect that August might be his son, as Mother Superior tells him that August was in town looking for his father and that his and his father's last parting was a bad one. I also like the scene between Gold and Archie, when Gold comes to Archie for advice upon learning that his son might be in town. I like that this scene allows us to see a different and rare side to Gold as he comes seeking help from someone he has always seen as far beneath him. A cricket who can easily be squashed beneath his boot. I also love that Gold actually accepts Archie's advice to talk with his son and to let him know how he feels. To ask him for forgiveness. At last... Gold and August come face to face as their confrontation begins. And I love their scenes together. Again, we see a rare emotion from Gold that isn't often shown from his character because he's so evil and has shown many times already that power is what is most precious to him. And while we later learn that August isn't actually Baelfire after all upon the revelation that August was deceiving him, I love how August's story is so well acted, not just by Eion Bailey... the actor who plays him, but by his character too. Because up until August attempts to control the Dark One with the dagger, which we learn cannot be done due to there being no magic in Storybrooke, since there's no magic in this world. And I absolutely love Gold's sudden turn against August when the truth comes out, and how Gold threatens August like he's about to kill him, which he most likely would have done had August not also revealed he was dying, and that his efforts have all been to try to make Emma believe in the truth about everything so she can break the curse like she's meant to do. I also love how Gold lets him live so that he can keep trying to get Emma believe, making it clear to us that Gold wants Emma to break the curse as much as August does, and as much as Henry does... all for the purpose of finding his son. Which we learn from the flashbacks that Rumplestiltskin created the dark curse and helped Regina the enact it, all for this purpose. Now, onto the backstory between Rumple and Baelfire... First, I feel that this is the one episode where I actually really like Baelfire as a character. I don't care for him much from what we've seen with him, but I love how much he longs to find a way to free his father from the darkness inside of him... the curse that comes from his power. Poor Bae is miserable at home because all of the kids are too afraid to play with him because of who his father is and everyone is afraid to even speak with him because of Rumple. And we see why, since Rumple kills without hardly a reason that merits those he kills from being killed. The man for knocking Bae to the ground that causes him to skin his knee, and the mute maid who worked for Rumple and Bae because she might have overheard him talking to his son about his dagger. Both acts of him killing them were cruel and evil. And then... Bae learns from a young woman who was saved from fighting in the Ogre Wars by Rumplestiltskin some time earlier, that there is a very powerful being, possibly more powerful than even the Dark One himself, known as Reul Ghorm... the Scottish Gaelic term for "Blue Star." Who we later learn to be the Blue Fairy, or simply Blue, as she comes down from the skies to speak with Baelfire upon hearing him call for her. I also love this scene between them, as Bae asks for help to free his father from his curse. Sadly, she doesn't have the kind of power needed to do so, but instead, she gives him a magic bean... the last magic bean known to the fairies so that Bae can take his father... the Dark One away from their world to another where magic doesn't exist. To where the evil of the darkness cannot harm anyone ever again. Which we also learn is our world, as Gold does not have magic here in Storybrooke. Sadly, when Rumple realizes what's about to happen when Bae finally tells him about the magic bean and how the Blue Fairy gave him a way to open a portal to a world where they can be happy together without dark magic, Rumple freaks out and becomes too afraid to follow his own son through the portal. It's interesting how you mentioned that it looks like Rumple let go of his son and allowed him to fall through the portal. Because I feel that in a way, he did. Not because Rumple wanted to lose his son, but because his fear overtook his senses and allowed him to let go of Bae's arm just enough to break free of his son's grip so that he wouldn't be pulled into the portal as well. At this point... the darkness inside of Rumple has corrupted his heart so much, that he couldn't lose his power at any cost. That's what the darkness does to all those who become the Dark One. And the price Rumple paid for such power, was the loss of his son, who he hoped to use his power to protect. Later, Rumple then confronts Blue and he grows angry with her for giving his son the bean that took his son away from him. This is why Rumple and Gold hates all fairies so much, as we learned back in Dreamy. Because he blames them for taking his son away from him. There's more between them too, but the root cause for his anger towards the fairies and therefore the nuns, is because of this incident. And I love the whole backstory. So good. As for your questions about who has shown magic so far... so far the only magic we've seen is from Emma ever since she's arrived in Storybrooke, as things have slowly begun to change. First... with time moving forward again as the clock tower begins to work again shown in the Pilot, second... when the mine collapses and the crickets come back in That Still Small Voice, later... when the fireflies also return in Dreamy, and then... in The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter as Emma's kiss allows for Graham to remember who he really is and everything else before Regina kills him. This is the only magic so far that exists in our world. All because of Emma and her being the Savior. As for the magic we see still surrounding Graham's heart... yes, the magic that is still protecting it, allowing for Regina to still maintain her power over Graham, is still enacted, but it's because it was carried over with Regina and everyone else in the curse. Not because Regina still has her power to keep her magic over the heart enacted. Regina, nor even Gold have magic. No one actually does, including Emma unless she actually comes to believe. The little that's changed in Storybrooke because of her, has come from her belief in Henry and wanting to help all of those she's helped since the Pilot. I hope this helps answer your questions or confusion about the magic that exists in our world. Please let me know if there are any other questions you might have. Overall... a phenomenal episode. I love it so much, so thank you for your reaction for it! You have three more episodes to go for season one and I can't wait!!!! Until next time...

Linda McDonough Garcia
>>25140629

I really enjoyed reading your comments. And I agree with you about his ranking of the characters. While he has a right to his opinion I think that judging them this early in the series is a bit hasty. For instance, a large part of the reason David is the way he is, is because he’s cursed so therefore he isn’t his true self. And I, like you, love the character, especially after the curse is broken. Josh Dallas is a great actor & his portrayal of Charming & post curse David is phenomenal. He’s such a great character. As for Emma, she’s one of my favorites & Jennifer Morrison does a great job. And I agree with you that most of Emma’s issues come from her struggle with believing in herself & trust issues when it comes to other people. This is mostly true in season one & even in season two, as she has trouble believing that the stories & characters in Henry’s book are real & just can’t even fathom she’s the daughter of Snow White & Prince Charming & much less that she’s the Savior. And because of her insecurities & disbelief in Henry’s book & the possibility magic exists it might seem like she’s a weak character. I loved Henry from the beginning & loved his unwavering faith in Emma & his belief in his book. I thought Jared Gilmore did a great job & his acting definitely improved throughout the series. I also think he is so adorable. I agree that the fact that we’ve seen the whole series & have seen the characters develop from beginning to end definitely impacts our opinions of the characters & what makes us love them even more & is the reason we feel differently about the characters than he does. I do hope he reevaluates his ranking of the characters at some point & hopefully his opinion changes.

Fly on the Wall

I wouldn't be mad you didn't love the previous episode as much as me, but I will say I personally think The Stable Boy is one of if not the best episode of the season. I feel the scene where Snow apologizes and begs to know what she did to Regina is an all-time scene and makes that episode great all by itself and the way Regina grabs Snow's face and says she knows she didn't do it, but deserves this gives me goosebumps every time.

Fly on the Wall
>>92421315

Like I'd personally rank that above Red-Handed for instance. I was actually waiting to get Stable Boy the entire time watching Red-Handed and Hat Trick. Though, those are also good episodes.