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We’re joined by friend of the show Will Sommer to discuss his new book “Trust the Plan: The Rise of QAnon and the Conspiracy That Unhinged America”. We discuss the full shape of the conspiracy/movement now 5 years into its run, its effect on those who follow it, and where it might go from here. As well as all the bizarre cultural references, micro-celebrities & criminals that fill out the movement.

Pick up Will’s book here: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/trust-the-plan-will-sommer?variant=40493482541090

And listen to Will’s podcast Fever Dreams here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fever-dreams/id1558716930

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Jesse DeStasio

Look at my strategist bro, I'm not getting elected!

J.P. McD.

At first I thought this was Will Sennett. “Bobby Oppenheimer, is that you?”

Doug Cartel

unrelated but I am losing my fucking mind over the fact that the Havana Syndrome was just crickets the whole fucking time

Nolan

I really want to meet the Qanon follower who loves Tyler Perry.

Joe

Now that it’s out for rent on The Bezos Channel — Infinity Pool is mega-movie-mindset.

Dies Irae63

This show is much better without Felix. Two smart, funny guys with a knowledgeable guest. All you need. No disrespect, but maybe do the drugs AFTER the show. And learn when to shut up and let Matt say something intelligent. Felix gives off vibes of an upper middle class kid slacker who suddenly got rich and plays video games all day, watches extreme crap tv far too much , hangs shit on people for not being in the cool gang and thinks he’s gods gift to women. It’s embarrassing. Could be such a good show.

J.P. McD.

I’m off Twitter for Lent (which is silly custom rather than actual Catholic doctrine afaik) so I have to come here to get mad at people whose brains are still broken from moron posters 2017-2021 telling them if they “normalize” anything a “lib” says or does they’re inflicting harm and trauma, and that “shunning libs online” is an effective theory of change.

Dies Irae63

I am outside Gaz. I do hard physical labour to earn a modest living. As opposed to spending two hours a week playing video games while making lame non-sequitors and getting paid a million bucks to support my various drug habits.

J.P. McD.

Guest’s laugh is delightful, might read the book largely based on that. It’s so genuine and seems to sound alternately like either Matt or Host William.

Colin Underwood

that Utah DA shit he breezes over at the end is actually insane. TrueAnon did a great series on it. Bunch of insane characters, half of them named David. Mormon guys impersonating indigenous people to administer peyote . A rapist swindler on the run pretending to be a Scottish academic. Great stuff

Kyle

Always love the Will Sommer eps

MKatieUltra

I have a distant cousin who is one of those failed actresses who ended up a right wing grifter and Qanon freak. She was also in an emo band, Blood on the Dancefloor, where the lead guy ended up being a real pedo, so she went on Chris Hansen’s YouTube series about predators. She is now Steve Bannon’s photographer or something lmao. I check her Facebook every once in a while to see what weird shit she’s saying. She’s my Qanon tamagotchi.

Joe

Genuine pleasure to meet a more accomplished Chapo-Extended-Universe head than myself.

James Wallace

In case you didn't realize this, Felix is doing a bit. The whole self aggrandizement is just a BIT. A comedy routine.

MinkL0af

In high school as a joke we bought my brother a BOTDF t-shirt from Hot Topic for his birthday. It was hilarious when he actually wore it to school the next day, but when he kept wearing it in public like every other day we were begging him to stop. We did not know at the time that bro was a pedophile lmao

MKatieUltra

OMG their music, I just want to dissolve in vicarious shame listening to it