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659 - The Transmigration of John Dolan feat. John Dolan (9/1/22) (Patreon)

Published:
2022-09-02 02:08:12
Edited:
2022-09-02 13:39:12
Imported:
2022-09

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Today we're joined by The War Nerd, John Dolan to talk about the wide world of war. We discuss the possibility of Irish unification, the wars in Ukraine and Ethiopia, the one year anniversary of the American withdrawal from Afghanistan, and of course, Philip K Dick. Also, Matt and Chris tease their upcoming project 'Hell on Earth', a podcast about the 30 Years War

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etienne

War Nerd is so funny because it's everyone's gateway drug to tankie-ism but then everyone turns around couple years later to dunk on them for being mildly critical of some aspects of russian/soviet policy

Anonymous

The Soviet Famine of 1932, by pretty broad consensus of modern academics who focus on the subject, is no longer considered a deliberate act. The releasing of the Soviet archives caused historians to revise their theories that the Bolsheviks aimed to inflict mass death and starvation among the semi-capitalistic independent farmers of the regions Dolan mentions. Of course, reputable academic types never believed that the Holodomor was a genocide against ethnic Ukrainians only, for the simple fact (which Dolan correctly points out) that millions died of the famine in regions without ethnic Ukrainians like Kazakhstan and Russia itself. What Dolan gets very wrong is that the Soviets deliberately killed these millions for political and economic reasons: to cement their rule and wipe out this emerging rural class of wealthier farmers that posed a perceived challenge against the Soviet system. On the contrary, most reputable historians now believe that the mass death in these regions was not a crime of malice, but a failure of distribution and government policy (ie poorly implemented farm collectivization and excessive agricultural quotas that the Soviet planners’ supply chain did not adequately redistribute back to their producers). While some scholars do believe the mass death could be considered a crime against humanity they still largely agree that it was a crime of incompetence and not deliberate (which is why it’s not a genocide).

Yup

matt was great on this one

Anonymous
>>90997532

I'd appreciate some citations on this - it's been a long time since I read about it in college

Anonymous
>>90997532

Sure I’ll provide them tmrw! Appreciate you taking the time to read my comment in the first place :)

etienne
>>90997532

im gonna do a huge brain whataboutism here but: was the holodomor less of an intentional famine than the bengal, or the irish famine, or was the ukraine famine in particular just a resource allocation boo boo while the other two were intentional, or is it like a sliding scale thing?

Anonymous
>>90997532

There are numerous citations on the issue on the Wikipedia page on the Holodomor. I mean, even on Wikipedia there is a pretty good presentation on the various approaches and opinions that one can check out.

Anonymous
>>90997532

The british were pretty intentional with the irish famine, probably the bengal one too

Zachary W Gay

You are genuinely retarded, and should probably kill yourself for the benefit of those around you

Anonymous

I think they got the Ukraine war wrong. The Russians did try to scare Ukraine into capitulating early in the war. Who doesn’t like a short war? Better than it is now where Europe is going to be freeze to death and hundreds of thousands of Ukranians died for nothing and Ukraine will be carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey into a rump state land locked and zero prospects even if it joins the EU

chetan kadodwala
>>91087931

As if the EU would take a corrupt failed state into it's arms with all those heavily armed guys with PTSD ready to cause endless trouble.

Poppy Chulo

Where's the new fucking slop?

Anonymous

This guy sucks, get John mearsheimer next time fools

Jonathan G

Guyyyyysssss Posssttttt-uh

John Mitchell

This guy was a fucking GET! Great job! Definitely checking out his work.

Brandon

Another slapper interview boys, well done!

Michael S. Judge

One of Iain Sinclair's Rules for the BBC: "The Irish, if they are men of violence, may only speak in subtitles."

Peter Queckenstedt

That 30 Years War podcast sounds like something I'll love listening to.