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The Originals 3x02♡Uncut Reaction &Review ♡ (Patreon)

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You Hung the Moon

Jackson and Elijah become worried about Hayley's safety, Cami shares her theory on the murders with Klaus, and Lucien has an unsettling warning for Elijah.

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Addison

Loved your reaction

Joseph LeRoy

I'm sorry but I would've killed Hailey and Jackson and dealt with the consequences later. The constant flip flopping and dumb crap from them is dangerous. Better to behead them now and get it over with.

Lucas

I thought this was a hot-take but seeing the comments I see i'm not alone....But i'm really having trouble feeling as bad for Hayley as the show tries to make us feel bad appearently and tries to make her pass for an innocent victim of Klaus going too far...He's not model of sanity but on the other hand he said it well. He took from her exactly what she wanted to take from him, doesn't feel good does it Hayley? Especially in a time where Hope was in the greatest danger and your stupid nonsensical plans to run away could have gotten Hope taken or killed so damn easily, whereby in your scenario you know nothing is going to happen to her...

Melanie Serra

The famous season 3... The one where I felt a lot of anger, injustice and disappointment concerning certain characters... I wouldn't divulge anything but I just hope that you won't react like many reactors reacted and that your adoration of certain characters will not blind you to their actions

Razzer95

Jackson again just boils my blood he's just infuriating

Santiago

I love that you are a hardcore fan of the Mikaelsons thus far. But the beautiful complexity of this show and it’s tragectory is that, as you continue to watch the seasons show you that in reality, they’re truly the bad guys. They are selfish and make poor choices in the name of their family. So I truly believe Haley was justified in her reaction. Hope was only in danger because of the enemies they have gained over the years.

Jasmine Reigns
>>104475903

I agree with what you said. Some people sometimes forget that the Mikaelsons are literally the enemy in everyone else's story but because we are so attached to them it can get glossed over!

Almin

All of this could have been avoided if Klaus talked to his siblings. He didn‘t even have to go into detail about the plan for Dahlia just let them know he has a plan and let him do his thing but no he decided to be a child and act like he can‘t trust them when that is obviously not the case. And let‘s be honest, If you were in Hayley‘s place you would try to run as well, especially the way Klaus was acting, but I‘m not saying it would have worked, but it‘s so obvious that Hayley is panicing when she sees the originals being scared of Dahlia, just like any Mother would, would she try to escape, especially when Dahlia would go back to sleep in a year. But yeah Jackson is in her ear telling her a bunch of shit so low key the running shit is Jackson‘s fault cuz he told her to😂But the only danger to Hope so far has been Klaus‘ family, except the ancestors and the Nola Witches, Esther, Finn and Dahlia are all Klaus‘ family so Hayley didn‘t lie when she said Klaus‘ family was ruining Hopes life. I just hate the constant defending of Klaus in the comments like he is the victim when all of this is low key his fault by behaving like a child and I say that as someone who likes Klaus, but whatever people gon continue to be biased😂

Victor
>>104463800

I think the show is trying to open peoples eyes to feeling for hope not as much hayley. I agree Hayley deserved her punishment but not death, which is what she would’ve faced had it not been for Elijah eliminating the poachers and davina capturing hayley. At the end of the day like sofie said that’s hopes mother and by how well klaus can keep a grudge she could’ve lasted stuck in turning 1 time a month human for a VERY long time. Like I said she deserves her punishment but for the few months she had to endure that curse was plenty of pay back knowing well she couldn’t live without hope and is forced 29-30 days out of the month without her. Again she deserved the punishment but not for as long, people like to paint hayley for TRYING to take hope when klaus is actually acting upon it. It’s such a contradiction that you’ll damn hayley as bad as people do but will praise klaus for doing the exact thing almost. Also I hate hearing people being up the “hope coulda been killed or captured” KLAUS WAS DOING THE EXACT SAME THING GOING SOLO, don’t know how many times I have to say it, his orginal plan was going to FAIL, had it not been for being daggered and finding out Dahlias weakness, he woulda died/ gotten his daughter captured for trying to solo dahlia in such a dumb way rather than working together, hope was just as much danger with klaus before being daggered than he was with Hayley running.

Victor
>>104475903

Yeah I always say the difference in human life awareness from TVD is drastically different in the orginals, they’re overall more evil, but guess that comes when you live as long as they do, and as the season progress we shall see the teams for making enemies get dumber and dumber 😅

Victor
>>104483274

Actually the ancestors hate the orginal family so that was the Mikaelsons fault as well😂😂, but yeah I agree more people owe hayley some understanding, so little understanding the lengths a mother will go to protect her child, AGAIN she was wrong in what she did and deserved the punishment but not for as long as it’s been going on, been reading people wanting hayley to die like chill out it’s hopes mother 😂 like damn people, some of y’all got more evil in you than the mikaelson family 🤣

Lucas
>>104463800

I agree with some of what you say, disagree with a lot of the rest... So, firstly like I said we can concur on Klaus and Hayley virtually doing the same thing, why do I feel resentment towards Hayley and less for Klaus in the scenario? Because Hayley is the person who first took the initiative to cross that line aand do this- Klaus in this scenrio took what I would consider 'a responsive measure'...In more childish terms- "You're the one who started it Hayley", feast on that karma.... The second thing is we are talking about relative risk- We are talking about Elijah and Klaus easily the most powerful beings on the planet being ready to defend Hope (and Having a safehouse for her, with Freya's magic to lookout and counter Dahlia), and on the other hand you got Hayley and Jackson running in the woods like chickens with their heads cut off, idiots caught in a storm and can be tracked and literally wiped out in seconds because of how powerful Dhalia is- yes I agree, Hope is in danger in both cases anyway, but let's be real about where there is more danger and the most risk. It's utterly idiotic and delusional-It is not the 'exact same thing' regardless of his plans at any given point success or failure, Klaus never took out his daughter in the open like that or overtly exposed her to that much risk.

Zeph 802

The women are glowing this season

Victor
>>104463800

Once again, I agree with the punishment that was dealt to Hayley but I’m not biased enough to not see what she did as the smartest choice. But regardless of who started it the thing that was frowned upon was revoking hope from either parent, I obviously expected klaus to react the way he did it’s predictable given his characters way of being but just because Hayley had the plan to take hope doesn’t make it any less worse that klaus acted on it, and if we are honest to one another, would’ve done it for MUCH longer and without even letting hayley see hope the 1 times she turned human if it wasn’t for Elijah and Freya being there. Just because klaus is predictable in his bad acts, doesn’t excuse them from being just that, horrible acts, because of klaus’s lack of care towards hayley she could’ve been killed had it not been for Elijah and davina taking her. AGAIN I agree with the punishment but shouldn’t have dragged out for as long as it did, she is hopes mother after all and klaus would frown at hayley at the thought as he’s acting on it himself is hypocritical. Secondly I disagree, it did not matter how strong klaus and Elijah are dahlia would’ve defeated them as easily as hayley and her pack. That’s what everyone seems to mix up the comparative power of dahlia to the original family is so far that it doesn’t matter how much stronger the original family is in the grand scheme of things. Klaus and mikael being the strongest possible duo got absolutely wrecked at the church literally F***ed(with in my opinion) Dahlia barely breaking a sweat, not to mention Elijah and freya getting sprinkled on top. if she cared to stay she could’ve done so much worse. Plus if you remember one of the threats Klaus made to dahlia while he was daggered was that the original family would help Hayley and her baby run long enough for dahlia to fall back into her sleep. As soon as he told Dahila that she decided to give him what he wanted so by this we know the plan wasn’t a bad one, it became a bad one for lack of team work, but had klaus and the orginal family worked together they could’ve made the hide and go seek game work, dahlia knew this which is why she gave into klaus’s threat at the time. Because let’s say they didn’t dagger klaus and we never found out the right ingredients to kill Dahila, what other possible plan coulda worked? None leaving running being the only one

Jasmine Reigns

Freya really was living her best life and I love that for her 😂💕

John Walker Is That Dude

OMG I just don’t get it when the characters and fans say why didn’t Klaus tell everybody his plan before he was daggered but the following episode is the moment the Freya I hated who has become my second favorite Mikaelson did not tell people her plan she didn’t tell anybody that her plan involved putting Hope in danger but we have to be mad at Klaus for not telling them his plan we know for a FACT Hope ring put in danger was NEVER going to happen but Klaus’ actions are childish where do they do that at? Why is defending ur daughter childish? Make this make sense. Klaus plan for Hope’s protection was to send Hayley and Hope to the bar where u can’t do magic that in itself is better than the dumb plan every other character had their plan and it was to put Hope in danger and Hope & Pray Dahlia doesn’t come for Hope. In Klaus’ plan Hope was 100% safe theirs wasn’t.

John Walker Is That Dude

Also again daggering Klaus and KIDNAPPING his cub was and will always be stupid. There is no logical defense of them doing that to him people say after the fact that daggering him was safe cuz we know the outcome. At the time I have always said daggering Klaus was stupid the moment they did it I didn’t need the following episodes to say it was good they daggered him. The moment Dahlia killed Aiden I saw her plan as getting rid Hope’s strongest protector. Out of everybody he’s a problem cuz Klaus one trump card was to shift into his wolf form and fight Dahlia. When Ansel told Klaus about how every full moon he was shifting back further from New Orleans and heading toward Arkansas. The making of the bracelet to hide Hope’s magic was the second dumbest thing they did cuz in episode 21 Dahlia found Hope in seconds cuz all she needed was Klaus’ blood to do a locator spell. Now back to the daggering what was the idiots going to do if Dahlia didn’t recruit Klaus only wanted him out the way. What if Dahlia came to their home without Klaus Freya was going to be out to sleep while Elijah and Rebekah would have been killed cuz their plan was crap. After killing most of Klaus’ siblings all Dahlia needed to do was take the blood from a daggered Klaus leaving him daggered for eternity or kill him after taking his blood. We can’t say daggering Klaus was good the moment it happened cuz no one knew her plan all we knew is she needed Klaus out of the way. Once Dahlia found the kidnappers aka the Crescent Wolf pack she would have murdered them all Klaus beat the crap out of them and shifted them into wolves he had every right to kill them afterall we learned season one from Oliver that Klaus’ Northeast Atlantic pack and the Crescent Wolf pack have been going to war against each other before the Mikaelsons were even born. Again sayin saying daggering Klaus was the right thing to do cuz of the outcome is wrong cuz what if dahlia did what I said would we be calling that decision the moment it happened right cuz no one knew what she was going to do.

Almin
>>104483274

Oh yeah totally forgot that the ancestors hate the OGs as well so I guess it’s their fault too😂 but yeah agree with you people are so weird😂😂

Almin
>>104463800

Thank you!!! Finally someone who says it how it is. Dahlia literally only played along with Klaus because if she didn‘t, the Pack could just run until Dahlia goes back to sleep. And they could have, if the OGs helped them run and distracted Dahlia as much as they could. But yeah 1 month of being cursed is punishment enough. Especially when Hayley only has Hope and nobody else. And Klaus started it with acting childish, Hayley started to panic and think of her own plan only because Klaus didn‘t want to work with anyone when he and Mikael literally got clapped by Dahlia already😂

Victor
>>104540138

Well first off freya didn’t tell her plan to klaus, she was working with Elijah so she was telling him the plan she had. Also are we watching the same show? She literally told Elijah that she wanted to use hope as bait? 😂 that’s literally the only reason they used a golem, cause she told Elijah, and Elijah and Rebekah didn’t agree so boom golem. And no one called klaus protecting his daughter childish, unless I missed a comment. His stubbornness to not work together is the childish part. And AGAIN klaus plan to solo dahlia was just as dumb as any plan made, if klaus didn’t find out the ingredients were wrong he would’ve been rag filled with ease. With klaus out the picture after being dumb enough to solo dahlia with the wrong ingredients, the original family would have to protect hope and save klaus. With the split on focus that leaves hope vulnerable, dahlia found the magic proof room and could break the spell so not safe at all

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104463800

Hayley was running away with with Hope FOREVER. Also we learned in episode 21 all Dahlia needed was Klaus’ blood to do a locator spell so stop with the whole they could run for over 6 months.

Victor
>>104541107

This is when I don’t get you, you can’t really say daggering klaus was stupid when due to it he was able to find the ingredients to kill dahlia. That makes it the best possible plan, by definition 😂. daggering klaus was the only reason they defeated dahlia and they technically didn’t even defeated dahlia as we saw her break the “unbreakable stake” and shove the dust down every original’s throat. Had it not been for Esther they would’ve died there with her BARLEY BREAKING A SWEAT. Dahlia didn’t target klaus because he was “the strongest protector” she did it cause he was the easiest to turn against his own family making it easier for dahlia and because she needed him to find hope. If you noticed when klaus was daggered Klaus threatened dahlia if she didn’t help him undagger him the orginal family would help hayley run long enough for dahlia to go back to sleep, this physically showed concern in dahlias expression proving that she couldn’t find hope fast enough to catch her, hence why she needed klaus’s blood to find her. The running plan wasn’t a stupid one, if the orginals worked together including klaus the running plan would’ve worked, reason it didn’t was because hayley thought the pack was enough to run which in a sense it would’ve potentially been had klaus not helped dahlia. Also we have to think, had klaus not been daggered in what way could’ve they beat dahlia? Literally 0 chance of beating Her, so the only reliable plan after that woulda been running 😂. Also don’t know why you praise the wolf turning so much, if klaus turned into the wolf he woulda been put down like a dog in the pound 🤣🤣. It’s almost as we are watching 2 whole different shows, idk how much more shows of strength dahlia has to show for people to understand that NO ONE stands a chance against her not even klaus as a puppy. In all of the battles dahlia was part of she never breaks a sweat defeating anyone. She was civil enough to give the original family an alert of her arrival and time to plan. If she was a savage and didn’t give a F*ck she would easily just walked in the compound and took hope. I mean even klaus’s master plan was going to fail had Esther not helped them, and you think puppy klaus would’ve made a difference?🤣🤣

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104540138

Almin said Klaus was being a child cuz he didn’t trust them and Freya who had the same plan as dahlia of making the family not trust Klaus.

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104540138

OMG so now dahlia was breaking the spill on the jazz club now SERIOUSLY show me the scene where she destroyed the magic of being in the building. The spell wasn’t to hide the building it was to stop witches from doing magic inside the club

Victor
>>104463800

I think she was cursed for more than a month, think I counted 3 human turns when they were recapping so it’s at least 3 months 😅 but yeah 1 or even 2 was enough, anything after that is to far. Yeah I don’t get why people bring up “wElL kLaUs Is ThE sTrOnGeST” like we didn’t watch mikael and klaus both getting bent over and sparked by dahlia 😂, not to mention they almost died at the end 4v1 dahlia as she broke the UNBREAKABLE stake and shoving it down the orginals throat🤦‍♂️😂. At some point power means nothing when your opponent is just leagues ahead of you. Like saying a 100 year old vampire can do better against klaus or Elijah in a fight than a 50 year old vampire, like no it doesn’t matter both are getting clapped😂 (and no I’m not exaggerating that’s almost how difference in power dahlia was to the orginal family🤦‍♂️) but yeah glad i could give you an unbias opinion 😅

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104540138

U keep saying Klaus’ plan was wrong u blame him for his plan but he trusted Freya when her huge ego made her believe that Dahlia loved her and wasn’t a heartbroken person when she came for Freya. The moment we saw the scene when young Esther came to dahlia to help her get pregnant that Esther would be the key in this season. So I knew Freya wasn’t the person she loved the most cuz love had nothing to do with it she just wanted power and to help the first born of their bloodline something Freya failed to mention that u don’t bring up why didn’t Freya tell Klaus Hope was at risk with her power overtaking her if Freya is this so called trusted person why did Dahlia bring that up thanks to her and not Freya Klaus was warned about something truly important.

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104540138

Also stop viewing Klaus as a human view him as the wolf he was born as a pack animal. Pack animals will fight solo against lesser, equal or a more powerful adversary who tress passes into their land threatening their pack/pride they are engrained that way to protect especially when they have children.

Victor
>>104540138

Ok well almin isn’t under this comment so don’t use others points to argue mine. Let’s use common sense, there was POWERFUL magic used to make the white oak literally unbreakable and dahlia literally made it explode, you really think a New Orleans witch can make a spell that dahlia can’t reverse or break?😅 and it wasn’t ego with freya, she spent 1000 years with dahlia any sane person would assume as freya did, I don’t know if you know this but characters in the orginals can’t break the 4th wall 😂 so freya couldn’t see the scene of dahlia and Esther before she was even born like dude come on🤦‍♂️😂 and like I’ve said many times in Freyas eyes she didn’t think dahlia was helping her so she didn’t tell klaus that hope was in danger because she didn’t view dahlia as helpful due to the abuse she went through. She didn’t forget she simply just never saw it as hell plus freya is a 1st born witch if anything she could help hope control it had this topic ever came back 🤦‍♂️ crazy you think dahlia was more trust worthy than freya tho😂

Victor
>>104540138

And viewing klaus as a wolf rather than a human doesn’t make him facing dahlia alone any less stupid 😂 he’s “PART” wolf that doesn’t make it his personal trait he acts like a vampire and uses reasoning like a vamp or human so I’ll keep viewing him as a hybrid not just a wolf

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104541107

Again Victor when they daggered Klaus u knew that Dahlias plan was to get him on her side u destroy ur own argument. Cuz u keep bringing up her fight with Klaus & Mikael and she told Freya she was going to kill Klaus and Mikael. There is no way u can believe Dahlia wanted to work with Klaus if in episode 18 she wanted to kill Klaus. So again when they daggered Klaus u knew automatically she wanted someone she wanted to kill on her side did u know her plan.

Victor
>>104541107

I’m sorry, your gunna have to rephrase this cause I can’t seem to understand your point

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104540138

Him being overprotective stems from being a wolf a pack animal again any animal especially pack animals will fight any and all threats in protection of their family especially their kids. It doesn’t make them stupid it’s how they are wired.

Victor
>>104540138

Again being a wolf doesn’t define him, his savage side stems from a vampire and just cause of that I’m not saying that he’s just a vampire, he’s a hybrid affected by both vampire impulses and wolf ones as well. And yes it’s still a stupid thing because you bring up him being a wolf for protecting his child but don’t bring up that wolfs are pack animals and they protect and hunt in packs, yet klaus wanted to go solo? Kinda contradictory if you ask me. He is wired a way but because he’s not a literal wolf (he’s a werewolf) he has the power to go against his instinct If he sees it’s not the smartest choice only in wolf form does he have little control, but he’s not he’s a hybrid

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104541107

Dahlia and Freya had the same plan of making the family not trust Klaus pushing him out getting him out the way. So Dahlia this person who tried to murder Klaus and Mikael after she told Freya to told Elijah and Rebekah she planned on killing them. When they stupidly daggered Klaus the moment that happens in episode 19 u knew for a fact Dahlia wanted to get Klaus on her side someone who she literally said she wanted to murder in episode 18. U didn’t know why Dahlia wanted Klaus out of the way u just knew she wanted Hope’s strongest protector out of the way. How can u go from dahlia trying to kill him in episode 18 to she wanted to worked with him in episode 19 so she needed them to dagger him so in episode 20 she can get Klaus on her side? How did u know Dahlia would empathize with someone that she tried to murder in episode 18. Also Freya didn’t tell Elijah her plan until Klaus was daggered that’s a fact cuz she gave him an ultimatum to let’s not act like that didn’t happen cuz did she tell Elijah before or after Klaus was daggered that using Hope as bait was her plan Elijah called her out for saying that after Klaus was put down cuz she knew Klaus wasn’t going to go for that. Freya saying that after Klaus was daggered is the literal definition of not telling people ur plan. Was Elijah told in episode 19 that was her plan? how is using an innocent baby not erratic. What was Freya’s plan in episode 19?

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104540138

In TVD season 3 episode 8 we learned that the vampire curse heightens who u are Elena told Rebekah with the wolf gene comes aggression and violence. Klaus was a savage before he got the vampire curse wolves are savages. Klaus does have a pack it’s not the crescents his pack is the Northeast Atlantic Pack they live in the northeast Virginia is one part of their territory we know they lived in. The only members of Klaus’ pack we know is his dad Ansel, himself, Cary the wolf who had the moonlight ring Esther made for Klaus, and Hope. Klaus has a pack they just aren’t featured on the show cuz he doesn’t live in their territory. Klaus acts like a lone wolf cuz in the plot he is a lone wolf.

Victor
>>104540138

Yes it does heighten who you are but also makes you much more relentless and savage. This is why klaus wanted hope to be protected by the crescents, because they’d protect her to the death as a pack plus he said vampires are to savage by no source of family which is why he didn’t want the milkaelson to be hopes only family. Out of the witches and werewolves vampires are the ones that kill for the hell of it because they have close to no morality due to having to feed on life and the extended time they live they start to see anyone younger than them as meaningless. All vampires ever introduced have shown much more aggression than any wolves shown. Once a wolf triggers the curse they become more normal and closer to a human as it’s been said before, on the other hand vampires are savage most of their life, I mean caroline is probably the nicest vampire we had with elena being the other and both did unforgivable things before and after they turned off their humanity. So yes I agree to an extent already being a wolf and then turning to a hybrid is bad, but vampires alone are already savages and think klaus’s savage ness comes more from vampire than a wolf. Klaus has Elijah and Rebekah, they’ve been with him the longest backing him time in and out, the fact that he wouldn’t see them as a pack is crazy to think since they’ve done much more for him than his pack could ever mostly since they share immortality so he has never been a lone wolf he’s just loved to act like one

Victor
>>104541107

Well freya only had the plan after she saw into klaus’s mind and knew he wouldn’t trust her, had klaus not thought that way things would’ve unfolded much more differently. And dahlia couldn’t murder klaus without the white oak which she never had access to or knew it was a thing, her feeling to want to kill klaus and being able to are to different things. I’m also not claiming Ik why she wanted him at that time, but rather gathering information after the fact and came to the conclusion that it was because she needed his blood to find hope. As klaus threatened she’d run out of time trying to find hope due to her having the bracelet cloaking her. So no it wasn’t because he was the strongest protector but more or so cause he is directly klaus daughter so she could track his blood to find her and obviously with Hayley on the run he’d be the only chance she had to finding hope, doesn’t matter how strong he is she’s defeat him with ease like all other enemies she had up till that point. Freya only told Elijah the plan after klaus was daggered because that’s when the plan was occurring , before klaus being daggered Elijah was playing devils advocate going back and forth with freya and klaus. She never told klaus the plan of using hope as bait because klaus didn’t wanna work together had he she would’ve told him. And freya only wanted to use the baby becuase it was the only way at the time, she knew dahlias power and knew she couldn’t be tricked, wasn’t till Rebekah, cami, and davina putting there heads together with the help of Vincent that they came up with the idea to use a golem, crazy huh? Almost like working together was better than working alone😂. Freya wanted to use hope cause she didn’t want to take any chances at the time and was the only way in her eyes since she couldn’t think of adding a heart beat to a golem. So that’s why I don’t view it as erratic, had she known the alternative way and knew it would work just as well but decided to use hope still then we would be more agreeing with one another, but that wasn’t the case, appreciate you rephrasing tho

Victor
>>104540138

Can I ask you a question? Completely off topic but I feel with your love for the wolves you’d know, if klaus had never became a hybrid, would he have been able to practice magic even after triggering his wolf curse? Csuse he was a witch from his moms side?

Almin
>>104540138

He was being a child. Not trusting the two people who were by his side for a 1000 years and always stay by him even when they are fighting is childish. If he didn‘t trust them he wouldn‘t have spend a 1000 with them. If he didn‘t trust them he wouldn‘t let them anywhere near Hope. So he is just acting which is so weird when his siblings can obviously help.

Almin

Victor u a whole saint going back and forth like this.😂John does seem to watch a different show (no shade) cuz it‘s like Klaus is their favorite, so they rewright everything to make Klaus seem like a saint. But hey they are full of passion so I gotta respect that. Victor you explained everything very well and I agree 100%👏🏻👏🏻 Nice that we all can debate like adults without name calling👏🏻👏🏻 which is very rare on the internet.

Almin
>>104463800

Oh sorry I know it was 3 months, I just meant 1 month was enought😂and really good example you made about Dahlia’s power👍🏻

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104578787

Why couldn’t I say this to me where in any of my posts did I say Klaus is a saint I’ll wait? Again when they daggered Klaus did u know Dahlia’s plan was to get him on her side a person she literally tried to kill. What would have happened if dahlias plan was to get him out the way one less defense. What happens if she shows up at the Mikaelson home without Klaus is Elijah, Rebekah and Freya still alive? Who stops dahlia from taking the blood from a daggered Klaus if everyone is dead? What happens after Dahlia locates the Crescent Wolf Pack are they still alive or does she kill an entire bloodline with the wave of her hand! If u don’t know dahlias plan how is daggering Klaus smart?

John Walker Is That Dude
>>104540138

Almin Klaus clearly said to Elijah I do trust u I don’t trust Freya someone he never knew. It’s not childish to not trust someone u didn’t grow up with as a mortal. Again after Klaus was daggered did we finally learn Freya’s plan. When she told Elijah her plan was to use Hope as bait and pray for the best Elijah pretty much said it’s amazing she said that after Klaus was daggered Freya than said he wouldn’t have went with her plan of hoping Hope doesn’t get talked by dahlia. Why are u putting conditions on Klaus telling Elijah and Rebekah his plan who is the actual parent in this situation while ur fine with Freya not saying what her plan was until after he was daggered it’s hypocritical.

Victor
>>104540138

No worries tag me when the answer comes up, would appreciate it!

Victor
>>104578787

I’ve explained you this to many times for me to count if you genuinely want a response read back the messages we’ve had man, if not then guess you were never really interested 😅

Victor
>>104578787

And thanks Almin, do my best not to result to insults, here to genuinely have a conversation and always enter these things with an open mind and have had my mind changed in the past on certain things. So Ik I’m not arguing just for arguing but for understanding and potentially helping someone else understand something👍

Almin
>>104540138

I totally understand why he doesn‘t trust her, hell I wouldn‘t trust a stranger. With Freya telling her Plan only after Klaus got daggered is because she knew Klaus wouldn‘t even listen to her since he doesn‘t know her but Elijah is willing to listen. Plus Klaus would never allow it. And with Freya it‘s different since her main focus was to kill Dahlia. She wanted Dahlia dead and is willing to do anything for it. It‘s just very complex since you gotta keep everyones opinions, experiences and feelings in mind when forming your own opinion. You gotta see everyones side. Not saying YOU have to do it, just saying that‘s what I always do.

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Nothing Victor said was well thought out or smart at all, John is 100000000000% right. Daggering Klaus was the stupidest thing they could've possibly done! Taking out love for Klaus, how does daagering him help the situation at all?! He's the smartest and most motivated to defeat Dahlia. Freya was untrustworth as John said, because she already helped Finn try to kill hope, as well as resurrecting finn, who still wanted to kill Hope, she tried to ue Hope as bait(something she waited till Klaus was daggered to say as Elijah and Rebekah would've mistrusted her if they knew before hand), and was raised by Dahlia as Klaus said. She was NOT trustworthy, and the fact that they trusted her, simply because she was their long lost sister who ld them sweet nothings made them untrustworthy. They proved exactly why Klaus shouldn't have shared his plan with them when they daggered him and chose her. The fact that Klaus discovered her secret while daggered was pure happenstance and good fortune; otherwise, they all would be dead and Hope would've belonged to Dahlia. Klaus being daggered would've been an eternal blood supply to track down Hope. They would've failed and all died and daggering Klaus would've been for naught. There's no way you can logically or morally justify daggering him when he's their best weapon and his daughter's life hangs in the balance. If you can, think about if it was your child and it happened to you!! lf you can still judtify it, the l don't know what to tell you