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Buffy The Vampire Slayer - S03E04|♡Uncut Reaction &Review ♡ (Patreon)

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2021-03-09 02:23:42
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Bisibia

very smart review at the end

Cheryl Coffin

I really enjoy your insightful commentary. And I don’t recall any other reactors noticing that Angel reacted the same way in Becoming when his soul was restored as he did in this episode when he “became more human”. Excellent reaction.

Raven Dark

I love this reaction. Just love it. One thing I want to point out. A lot of people don't like Buffy's line, "Don't get hit." I understand why, and when taken at face value, neither do I. But I don't think it's meant to be interpreted at face value. So, here's the thing. When taken literally, the line doesn't work, and comes off as a terrible thing for Buffy, as a superhero who has been abused by Angelus, in a show that is all about girl power, to say, and here's why. "Don't get hit," over-simplifies and trivializes Debbie's situation. It makes it sound as if women who are in abusive relationships are somehow at fault because they allow themselves to be beaten or abused. It makes it sound as if it's just that easy, as if a woman can just hop to it and get out, and if they don't, then they are allowing it to happen. It ignores the fundamental thing about how abuse works, the way the cycle of abuse can ensnare women, the way abusive relationships create fear and break a woman down so that they feel like they can't escape. And it ignores the fact that sometimes abusers can trap a woman in other ways, such as threatening them or endangering them so that they literally have no choice and are trapped. Relationships like this are never that simple. No woman chooses to be abused, and it is rarely as simple as, just don't let it happen. It's never as simple as "Don't get hit." However. I think that isn't the way the line is supposed to be taken. I think what Buffy was saying with that line is, don't take this lying down. Do something about it. Fight back. Take action. I think perhaps the writers were trying too hard to keep it simple and make the dialogue punchy or brief. Considering what Buffy went through with Angelus, it wouldn't make sense for her to send a message that says Debbie is at fault or that she can just not get hit. Unless, the line is meant to imply that she was telling her, do something about it now, get out, don't let it happen again, otherwise he will kill you. This, however, is my headcannon, and I can see why a lot of people think it doesn't work. Second thing I wanted to say about this, and it's a little complicated, so bear with me. I don't think Debbie loved Pete. I don't think she stayed with him out of love. She stayed with him out of terror. I think maybe she loved him once, and was clinging to what they had, hoping she could get that back. That's the parallel. She wanted back what they once were in the same way that Buffy wanted her and Angel to be what they once were. When Debbie ran back to Pete at the end, she was doing what a lot of battered women do. Feeling trapped and as if there is no way to escape, she went back to him and tried to be as nice and loving and on his side as she could in hopes that she wouldn't be abused again. Battered women are often so broken down that they feel like they need the abuser to carry on. They often feel that if they are nice enough, and loving enough, the abuser will change or will stop abusing them and the abuser will become the person they want them to be or who they once were. She went back to him thinking she could save him, and with tragic results. Her going back to him and getting killed was sad and tragic, but it was also, sadly, how abusive relationships sometimes end. Abused women often feel as if the only way to survive is to be as accomidating as possible so that the abuse will stop, because they are too broken or scared or feel too trapped to do the only thing that will stop it and get out. I actually love this episode. Is it without it's problems? No. Some of it is too heavy-handed, and not handled well. But I still love it, because the parts that are handled right are handled brilliantly. I think this episode's biggest problem is that they were trying to tackle an issue that is so layered and complex and tricky that it requires several episodes to pull off correctly. They gave themselves far too little time to handle it right. Can't wait to see more, as always.

Devon Martin

You are in for a real treat this season, I promise ❤...my personal favorite season is 5, but season 3 is so close behind in that our characters traits really start to shine which makes for some brilliant television...I've been a fan of this show since they showed it on its OG network, the WB...(I was 8/9) then 🤯🤯 lol...Buffy is so ahead of its time in that these storylines are relatable and I absolutely adore watching these first time reaction videos....I started watching you on the season 2 finale and you mentioned that you love flashbacks. I won't ruin anything for ya, but I know you won't be disappointed with this show and its flashbacks...can't wait for you to continue your Buffy journey ❤🧛‍♂️😎

Anonymous

The time they have in the show doesn’t give the writers the chance to open and close subjects. We’ve seen it before in other episodes.all they can do is take one shot at it, one path, Even then the things that happen are ‘sampled’. I don’t know if they ever address bystander syndrome, when no one reacts when they all see abuse in this case. . There are little things in the screenplay that I find a touch misogynistic (hooray they are considering making this a hate crime in the UK). It would have been so easy to change the ‘don’t get hit, line. It doesn’t need a lot of analysis. She just meant leave but the message was delivered very clumsily. I assume that, when it comes to obvious social issues, the writers are trying to point out the right thing to do and the consequences of not doing it. I do have concerns when their writing is too clumsy, and gives the wrong message or they trip over an issue and don’t address it. In the US 1 in 4 women and 1 in 9 men are victims of partner abuse. It’s legitimate to say the partner stays out of fear, in some cases that’s right but there are other factors, - Raven’s points - Power is the main one, it’s all about control. The abuser breaks down their partner’s sense of self to the point where they believe the abusive relationship is all they deserve. There is also the victims hope that it will get better, there is love perhaps because it wasn’t always like this and there is plain manipulation. I think what makes it hard or harder to deal with is that family units are so nuclear now that partner abuse is more hidden. The bar for restraining orders is way high like it’s often after there is a threat or actual violence.. the evidence of abuse required before there is action by the police is unworkable. They are all way out of proportion to the danger abused women are in. Interestingly, this whole issue is being debated heavily in the UK with a fairly loud call for changes to the law. To me there are a number of reasons why abused women stay with their abusers, but not one reason why enough other people don’t help them not be abused. And there is no way you can deal with a fraction of what you need to cover in a show of this nature. Not least of which is that the protection the law offers abused women is woefully inadequate, and while you’re working in that framework you’re always going to have a problem coming up with real solutions, if you want to look outside the countries we typically consider , take South Africa. 25% of men have admitted to rape. That’s just the ones that admitted to it. 70% of the women have been abused. Luckily in the UK it looks like there will be an overhaul of the law. It’s needed in the US and many other places. In case you could not tell I’m a bit passionate about the issue.

litafanforlife

I truly love your reactions. You're all in emotionally. The Buffy/Angel scene was so beautiful-even after everything, even still not being quite back to normal his instinct was to protect Buffy.

Whisper_dvm
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I agree with you on the "don't get hit" line. I never took it as Buffy saying stop making him mad and its jarring when I see reactors taking it that way. I always understood it as "get out of that situation" However, it's still an over simplification of the complexity of a domestic abuse situation- as abusers break down their victim to the point that it's extremely difficult for them to "just" leave.

Raven Dark
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I agree with you 100%. And let's not forget, however bad it is now, for the most part, these issues were way worse back then. There was even less recourse for women. Stalking wasn't even against the law in some places, I don't think, or if it was, it hadn't been for long. I was stalked for three years, and the cops did nothing. They told me they couldn't until he broke the law, and he knew how not to. I went back to him multiple times, because I felt like there was nothing else I could do. It took 5 years to completely stop it, and he would still do it now if he knew where I was.

Tim Pierce

I think it's a little unfair that Xander gets chewed out for falling asleep, and yet when Buffy does the exact same thing the next night, no one says a word.

Travis Robbins

I love that you immediately brought up the lack of logic of Oz as a werewolf crawling back in through the window, lol. The whole set up was a really failed attempt at adding drama in my opinion.