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Neil McRae

Also, this episode raises the question of where Troi got her accent. Certain;y not from her mother, but apparently not from her father either.

Henry Fuller

My son was a twin when he was born I've been in his life since he was 4. He is a child of my wife's first marriage but I love like my very own. The day he was born there was a record number of births in the hospital. I wife was a happy pregnant lady expecting twins. They asked her if she wouldn't mind waiting a few hours before they induce labor and do her c-section. She said sure beause there be alot of other expecting mommies higher risk than her. When they finally got back to her 12 hours later, blood clot caused loss oxygen to the brain of both babies. First baby didn't make it and my son was in the nick u (ICU) for several months. Doctor told my wife to get a dual plot cause doctor said her other baby would probably soon die. 20 years later hes still around although he has plenty of difficulties with autism, epilepsy and a slew of other health problems but he survived. That first marriage of my wife's fell apart after that. My sons bilogical father didn't want a "defective" son and really didn't have much interest in being a Dad anyways. My sons older sister wants nothing to do with him. But all of his siblings now treasure their brother very much. Hes very special to everyone.

Joe Concepts

I always thought there was an underlying thing here that this kind of suggests why Lwaxana is such a big personality, flamboyant and happy. She is always suppressing things or trying to hide from the dark thoughts, etc. We even see other hints of that in other appearances, too.

LogicSequence

Done behind the scenes for content creation for some time, first thing i noticed: Kat changed her camera angle! lol

Nolan

The thing I like about this episode is how much it informs pretty much every prior appearance Lwaxana has had in the series. From her big personality and talking up her status in S1, all the way to the episode where she fell in love with that man from the culture where they kill themselves at 60 and she was NOT having it, to her taking Alexander under her wing. Obviously, none of the those episodes had this in mind, but this does nicely retroactively inform those ones.

Mark Ten

I had forgotten about this one and it hit me very hard today for personal reasons. I had an baby sister who passed before I was born. I kind of grew up knowing I was Mom's "replacement baby" and its something I hadnt thought about for many, many years until last night when I found her birth certificate (never knew I even had it) so there were a lot of thoughts going through my head when I saw this.

Mark Ten

FYI creature masks/makeup - remember Doctor Who Deep Breath where the Doctor puts on a face of one of the robots to fool Clara while she is being interrogated by the cyborg? Well that false face Peter Capaldi was wearing was actually one of the Matt Smith's prosthetic masks.

Brad Barter

We learned so much about L'waxanna in this episode, not only that she had gone through the heartfelt trauma of losing her husband while she was still raising Deanna as a young girl but lost her first born child as well. No wonder she is defensive of Deanna but in a way her constant pestering of Deanna to settle down and get married not only while still young but to hopefully have children herself. I believe she misses being a mother to a young child since she was eager to take young Alexander under her wing and explore wonders with him as if she were his mother. She was most likely constantly changing outfits, hairstyles, wigs etc and the life of any party to keep from thinking about the two important people in her life she had lost and not only kept trying to arrange a husband for Deanna but for herself as well, she opened up a bit with Alexander previously about how she doesn't like her own hair because it was ordinary and plain and how as she got older she felt tired and lonely which is why she smothers Deanna whenever they got together. I did find it interesting that after Mrs. Troi blasted Riker about how if it weren't for him she'd be married already and to stay away that we didn't see him for the rest of the episode not even at the end but rather Picard came in to stand with her in Sick Bay and helped search her mother's journals in her quarters. By taking him out of the equation it felt different but respectful on his part honouring her mother's wishes especially when she could've died he must've felt some guilt as well.

gobmob2000

Lets not forget that she did not just loose a child but her husband shortly after. Also, I know you are not supposed to look at the logic of this universe and just enjoy the drama, but you would think that with the tech that they have got, drowning would not be that big of a deal. Like, they have beaming tech and life signs detectors on a planetary scale, why not just have a couple of satellites orbiting that scan the planet for people in trouble and instantly beam them to the ER department? I don't know, sometimes I think with star trek that they are so smart in some ways, but so dumb in others.

Joe Concepts

That may also be why they don't really show what happened. Just jump ahead afterward. Also, Trek probably was not ready to go so far as to show a dead child.

Joe Concepts

I had a cousin who died at age 4 or 5 when I was baby. There are a few photos of me with him but I don't remember him. I know that though my aunt and uncle stayed together and had two more kids, they have had various issues over the years, and their kids had difficulties because of it. My cousin is talked about from time to time. Even just hearing about all of it later, I know that kind of thing can really change people. I don't know how people can handle something like that.

Kris Nimitz

i always liked that episode, but seeing you both watchin it, I like it even more. I'm a lifelong trekkie and I always watchd it with my mother (every single series from TOS to Enterprise) this is a different but good expirience watching it with you. I can't belive we are in season 7, omg ;)

Kathy A

My grandparents’ first child Ronny was stillborn. He is buried in the family plot, sharing a space with Grandma’s baby sister Hazel, who died at just age 18 months from the Spanish Flu in November 1918. I wish I had known about them before my grandmother passed away 30 years ago. They weren’t erased from the family, but they weren’t talked about, either. In getting the last batch of family photos from my father last year, I found a picture of two babies around a year old each, and the back just had “Hazel” on it. I think I’ve figured out the other child was my great-grandmother’s nephew, Hazel’s first cousin, who was just two months older than her. It might be the only photo of her left, unless my great-aunt’s family has a photo in their collection.