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[Premium Access] Agents of Shield - 4x16 What If - Group Reaction (Patreon)

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2019-08-13 12:00:02
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2021-01

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Early Agents is the best Agents am I right? Enjoy our start of the final pod for Season 4. MAN every episode has been absolutely amazing so far! Bringing back Ward has literally brought us joy. Can't believe how much Brett Dalton and  Iain De Caestecker can pull of varying personalities of the same characters!

- Suraj

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Agents of Shield - 4x16 What If - Group Reaction

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Anonymous

I guess I’m gonna be sitting in my work parking lot for the duration of the video so I can watch this now.

stuart wakeman

The framework arch is the peak of shields quality. Season 5 and 6 are still great though.

MOB12

WOOOOO

MOB12
>>25725542

It's my favorite too but I also love 5 and 6 as well

MojoJojoGojo

So just curious, if you haven't said it yet, where the hell is avatar book reading...did yall announce or say why yall haven't finished the only book that we really wanted to know about?!? #THESEARCH

MOB12

Okay I have to ask tho who is the editor that edits out the footage for good reactions? Like that one they just did to the new SHIELD intro card. Dont edit out the reference footage for good reactions like that

Christopher simeon

In the framework some of the avengers were killed in the Cambridge incident when they tried to stop the girl. 279 civilians were killed too

Anonymous

The Doctor is in the house!

Justin Neason

I think Coulson recovered so easily because of the fact that his mind has been altered before like Jemma, its almost like he's had 2 subconsciouses

thenormies
>>25725587

So we have been waiting to complete several at a time so we don't have to make you wait several weeks between releases. Unfortunately it was pushed to the back burner a bit as we got busy with other shows but we have put Dustin onto editing them now. Suraj and Dustin will be completing part 3 and 4 to release at the same time.

thenormies
>>25725668

So I think the decision there was to give more time to other parts of the episode rather than the intro that everyone knows what it looks like. If more people feel the same though we can edit it back in! - Suraj

KuzonFire121

this mini-arc/pod is where I went from thinking that Iain is a great actor to Iain is a special actor

Spudsworth

To clarify, since you guys seem to believe the Framework is programmed to be the ideal version of each of their lives... It's actually only programmed to change their biggest, deepest regret (more or less), so they'll accept the reality they're being presented more easily. For example, May regrets killing the inhuman girl in Bahrain, so she's not fighting against a reality where she saved the girl. Almost everything else is just the simulation running its course, like the fact that the girl from Bahrain was still inhuman, still could take control of people, and still super messed up enough to cause a disaster and let Hydra take over. The exceptions are Daisy and Simmons. They weren't put into the Framework properly, so their brains were never scanned to adjust the Framework for them (same reason they retain their memories of the real world). EDIT: The fact that the Framework changes a person's regret is explained a couple of times prior to this episode, at least once implicitly by Radcliffe to Aida, and once explicitly by Coulson's LMD to May's LMD.

Ashgar77
>>25725863

Don't think that was ever mentioned. There are no Avengers in this world. The events of Cambridge happened several years before the events of Winter Soldier. Cap is still frozen in ice. Hydra took over then and likely took care of Fury along with any other threat.

KuzonFire121

Chris, your knowledge of fashion designer party affiliation is appreciated

Nudeldifudel

Every episode from here on out of season 4 is peak television.

Trent Bowles

I know it's tempting to correct some of their misconceptions, but I wish some of you guys wouldn't correct them on assumptions that later episodes in the season will explain. I mean, if they don't understand it then, then go wild, but these guys definitely read these comments and it's already caused them to piece together things they otherwise wouldn't have. I don't know, just becoming a bit of a pet peeve of mine.

Aes86

It's technically called a Van Dyke. People confuse it with a goatee which is just if there were no mustache, only the beard underneath.

Macy

Fitz and Aida... the grosses thing I've ever seen.

Justin Jefferson

Imo Fitz is the best actor on the show with Simmions being a close second.

Linsey Morris

-pat how many times does the show itself have to say "yeah we've all had our trauma's ward but it didn't turn the rest of us into psychopaths" like...LITERALLY MAY SAID THAT LMAO ward himself at the end said he didn't want redemption pal why are u still on this ya'll can like a villain without excusing their villainy idk how ward stans can talk about how good of a villain he is one minute and then be like BUT HE WAS MANIPULATED!! NOTHING WAS HIS FAULT!! HE'S INNOCENT!! pick a lane my dudes. -chris made an important comment @ all of u skyeward shippers being happy and this is what daisy gets in the framework...he's not what she WANTS. u ward defenders say daisy and ward would be cute and should be together and ~he really loved her~ you're only focusing on how he felt about her and not about the fact that 1. she is disgusted by him 2. she doesn't want him. she wants lincoln. let's stop romanticizing his obsession with her shall we! -i missed if u guys noticed this but the body under jemma in the grave was deathlok. you can see the metal on his skull! -dying at pat thinking he's valid with the "hydra aren't nazi's" thing when it's literally written as their propaganda so the reason why coulson is saying that is bc he has to sljdkf can't wait for the full length version so i can see his reaction to "hydra are all nazis every last one of them and don't you forget it" lmaooo -fun fact elizabeth henstridge was really sick during the filming of this episode which actually worked super well with her scratchy voice since simmons had been buried alive lol. -also just wanna say they screened this episode at wondercon and chloe bennet said that the audience was visibly disgusted at the fitzaida kiss and so was she she said it was very hard for her to watch as a fitzsimmons shipper lol i love her love all the discussion as usual!

Macy
>>25732274

Aida out here writing her own self insert fanfiction. lol

Anonymous

I appreciate you Normies, but I genuinely can't stand Pat's heel shtick. Him defending Hydra as not-Nazis is just about all I can take.

Jonathan Jones
>>25732740

Hydra is a religion originally. You have the religion side and the militarized side. The militarized side are Nazis. So Pat and Chris are both right

Jonathan Jones

The captured members of the team have a lifetime of memories inside the Framework. So to them they’ve grown up inside of the Framework meaning, to them, that’s the real world. Imagine someone coming to you and saying that all the memories you have aren’t real and that this world isn’t real. So of course Phil wouldn’t believe Simmons. I believe no one would.

Anonymous

I can't find episode 14 & 15

Herberderber

What we need is your creativity. I'm creating a massive surge.

Deadpool

I find it funny that AoS did the what if stories before the MCU

tsujoi

Did anyone else think the green was a plant until Marketa started eating it? No just me? lol

Anonymous

Ward isn't necessarily Daisy's wish. They never were able to get her brain scanned to collect data and determine her biggest regret. The fact that she is called Skye in the Framework shows that most likely Aida gathered information from the SHIELD database to build Daisy's perspective.

Aes86
>>25737687

Did you notice she seemed to rip off and eat a piece everytime Ward was on screen? I think it was a coping mechanism, like she was ripping off Ward's head, lol.

Calculatus Eliminatus

I think part of the sneaky brilliance of this pod is showing us how our biggest regrets might actually be more important than we know. Similar to "It's a Wonderful Life", one man's life touches so many others. We can see how small changes could actually affect so many.

Namelessnonnie

Thank you guys for doing this show! i look forward to every Tuesday. Also, just to clarify some conclusion, like others have explained, in the Framework each persons biggest regrets were removed. We are slowly seeing what each persons regret is. Clearly with May hers was killing the girl. Since she didn't kill the girl we see the effect that it has. The girl went on to kills hundreds and it gave Hydra the initiative to say that inhumans are bad and move forward in the way that they did. We will see what others regrets are too. Also Jemma and Daisy put themselves in the framework willingly without Aida's ability to manipulate it, so it's different.

Doby Greg

My favorite pod of all Shield. Great concept and a reminder that Fitz is the best actor of the show(Aida is another good choice). Only those plugged by Radcliffe got a regret removed. Daisy and Jemma only replaced their NPCs and had no regret removed.

Zoe Hart

I don't think they know how the framework works. They say they have been paying more attention but they haven't so they are looking at it all wrong. It's about erasing people biggest regret but only the people hooked up the framework. So Daisy and Ward being together is only because Aida knows about their past. Fitz' biggest regret is yet to be revealed so I'm gonna stay quiet on that. May's is obviously Bahrain which lead to the circumstance we are in now. Coulson wanted to be a teacher. Ward is not good. He is a product of Aida's programming plus the producer's wanting to get Brett Dalton back. He is NOT the great love of Sky/Daisy's life . Stop pretending that is the case!! FFS!

Alejandro
>>25850769

Exactly, it’s those little moments where they over talking and not paying attention. The little things about the show that didn’t seem important but now they are.

Kim Carragher

Just wanted to say (bit late to the party) that the little Hula girl wasn't a hint towards TAHITI, it was a hint towards Daisy. It's one of her only posessions. That's why it worked when he saw her.