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Once Upon A Time 2x17 “Welcome to Storybrooke” FULL REACTION (Patreon)

Published:
2020-10-11 16:04:08
Edited:
2020-10-12 15:13:28
Imported:
2021-10

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Paul Fisher

Another one of my favorite episodes. Now you know why it was so hard for me not to give spoilers when you complained about the logic of the curse in previous episodes. I had the same complaints but I felt this episode gave us a good picture of how it only took three days for Regina to realize the curse didn't give her what she wanted but she had to endure it for 28 years. And as she said, she never learns from her mistakes, so she wants to cast the Curse of the Empty Heart despite Rumple's warning. I think this episode also gives us some insight into how Henry came to have problems with Regina long before he got the book. Henry and Regina were the only two people in town who realized that every day was repeating (with only minor variations as we saw.) We've seen that Storybrooke has books, TV, and internet from the outside world, so as he grew, Henry would have realized that time was not normal in Storybrooke . I imagine he must asked his mom about it many times but the fact that she would never explain it to him must have strained their relationship. We saw in this episode that he naturally loves Regina as his mom but he hates the evil things she does. I loved the parallels in the scene at the town line where Regina lets Owen go and the scene at the well where she lets Henry go. Not only does she make the same gesture with her hands, but both Henry and Owen say, "Not like this." In both scenes we see that Regina can sometimes (rarely!) bring herself to do the right thing despite all her evil acts. So she is not 100% evil and we've seen the darkness in Snow's heart shows she is not 100% good. Complexity makes the characters more interesting.

otherboy
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I guess but so far Snow has only hurt people who deserved it whereas Regina has hurt and killed innocent people.

KayGee

Most of the characters in OuAT are very complex, it's one of the reasons why I love this show so much. With that said I'm not a huge fan of Snow, Yes, she only hurt people who "deserve" it, but I find her so annoying and whiny.

KayGee

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Heidi Elizabeth Marcum

Thank you once again for another fun reaction for Once Upon a Time! In all honesty... I have to admit this episode is probably one of my least favorite episodes throughout all seven seasons, and it's not because it doesn't have some really good things about it because it really does, but because I just don't like Greg Mendell as a character at all. He's one of my least favorite characters in all of Once Upon a Time. So therefore, I have a hard time with feeling too bad for him. I feel bad for him from back when he was Owen because he was just a boy then, and because his story is tragic because he lost his father, who he has no idea what happened to. It's very sad. I have just always felt that Greg is creepy and I can't connect to his character or feel bad for him in his present day storyline now that he's found his way back to Storybrooke. And just to be clear... this is no fault of Ethan Embry as an actor. I like him in other movies and shows too. I just don't like Greg as a character overall. But with all that being said... I do love all of the parallels with Regina and Henry to what happened back in the first days of the dark curse. I love seeing the early days of the curse. We have never seen the first days and it was interesting that two strangers aside from Emma and August were able to enter thanks to them having been camping in the woods within the borders of Storybrooke where the town was formed around them as Regina cast her curse. I also like how in the end it shows Owen outside of the town line unable to see any signs of Storybrooke despite knowing it was there, while Regina watched on invisible to everyone because of the magic around Storybrooke making the town unknown to the outside world. This moment is beautifully done. And in regards to time being frozen... time was frozen straightaway the moment the curse formed Storybrooke and brought everyone over. The days passed and little differences such as the clothes people wore and certain conversations they had with one another might have changed, but for twenty-eight years, time stood still, making it so that the days simply repeated themselves like Groundhog Day, and so no one ever ages. And Regina isn't happy, all because this is the price for Regina casting such a curse causes a deep hole in her heart. Absolutely brilliant!! I also love seeing Regina happy and reveling in her success upon casting the curse, only for her to eventually come to be bored and unhappy with her new normal life that repeats itself day after day, and angry that no one will even try to fight back against her. Very interesting indeed. Oh... and it's interesting that this is the first episode where we see only Storybrooke with no flashbacks to the Enchanted Forest. We still have two timelines, but only in Storybrooke. Very cool. :) Also... I love seeing Graham appear again after all this time, and I love his storyline. It is so interesting to see how Regina commands him to arrest Kurt through his heart, which we never really got to see her control Graham back when Graham was still alive within the first seven episodes he was in. I love how confused he is when he felt pain when Kurt knocks the lock box with his heart in it off the desk in trying to escape while Kurt kept trying to convince the sheriff that he is somehow being controlled. So interesting and I really feel badly for Graham. Kurt and Owen too of course. I also really appreciate that we get to see Billy, or Gus Gus again since this backstory obviously occurs before he too is killed by King George, shown in this season seventh episode... Child of the Moon. One of my favorite moments... is when Henry fights to convince Regina to spare Mary Margaret's life and to stop her plans to cast a love curse over him by killing his grandmother. And it's because of Henry, that everyone comes to see that magic has the power to corrupt everyone, including heroes too. Henry's moral compass is very strong and he is definitely the heart of the people living in Storybrooke. And everyone loves him. However, I will say this... Magic isn't what is evil and what corrupts people, unless of course it's dark magic like the kind Regina and Gold possesses. And yet any kind of magic still isn't really what's to blame. Only the people who wield the magic... both light and dark magic. It's the choices we make that is what saves and protects us, or what corrupts us. Regina proves this by burning her mother's curse and by allowing Henry to return to Emma and Neal. So for Henry to constantly complain about magic being the problem and wanting to destroy it kind of bothers me too, because Regina, Gold, Emma, Neal, David, and Mary Margaret are all that's to blame for what's happened. Because of their choices they've all made. I wish that someone would have addressed this a little within this scene. More so than simply by showing that this is true. However, my absolute favorite moment though... I really love how Regina reveals to Mary Margaret the darkness now in her heart during their moment together in the end. The darkness that is put there because of Mary Margaret's evil deed. It's very sad, but this is a big reveal and it's powerful. It's just another way that proves heroes can become corrupted and become villains, just as villains can be redeemed and become heroes. And yes... the acting between both Ginnifer Goodwin and especially Lana Parrilla is absolutely incredible throughout this scene. I agree with you. :) And lastly... I also really love the scenes between Regina and Gold. First within the flashbacks when Regina comes to Gold wanting to understand why she's not happy after casting her curse, while Gold has no idea what she's talking about because he's as cursed as everyone else. And second, when Gold protects Mary Margaret from Regina's wrath, even if he was doing it out of obligation. As for his line about the casualties of war... He wasn't just talking about Mary Margaret. I believe he is talking about Henry too. While Henry is his grandson and he is now related to the Charming family, Gold also still sees Henry as a threat to him upon the revelation of the prophecy revealed back in the episode, Manhattan. That Henry will be his undoing. So a part of him wishes to see Henry die as well in order to assure that he will live. I feel that this is a factor as to why he doesn't so much care about him possibly being put under Regina's curse. And yes... because of the darkness corrupting him, Gold is still looking out only for himself and doesn't care about anyone except for when it's in his own self interest, or when he owes a debt. Overall... a solid episode. I still like it. It's just not one of my favorites. There isn't a single episode of Once Upon a Time that I hate. What can I say? This show is fantastic, flaws and all!!! Thank you again!! Until the next episode...