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The First Take Avril Lavigne 'Complicated' + Harry Styles 'Boyfriends' (Patreon)

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2024-01-19 14:00:12
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Cristine

Loved this reaction. I hope you keep doing this in the future. I don’t mean western artists reaction, but if you see something that you want to react to. Just do it. It’s genuine and I appreciate that. Side note: the lyrics in boyfriend are just so… ✨wow✨and it sounds beautiful too.

Sami Casingal

I feel like a lot of western artists have naturally good voices and they and the label they sign to capitalize on that while a handful of kpop idols may not even have that but they go through that rigorous training and like yall said, it’s evident if they have that training and when they improve from that training. I also have noticed that sometimes it seems like idols are straining their voices when they use certain techniques except for the very few like Jungkook (I’m not trying to insult or diss anyone or anything, I’m just stating my observations based on how I perceive it) while with western artists, it just sounds and looks so effortless and smooth from them whether or not they have trained or not. And I’m not sure if this makes sense, a lot of idols already have unique voices with more than one unique voice in a group but sometimes it gets hard to hear the uniqueness because that uniqueness is unique to what western artists would sound like but sounds a bit more common in South Korea. And for western artists, it’s easier for me to tell apart their voices and pinpoint the uniqueness because (not trying to generalize) the western artists I follow at least almost seem like they have unique voices even within the U.S. but that might also be due to our extremely diverse population here. From the beginning when I got into kpop, I was disrespecting western music and artists by telling people that kpop is far superior. But over time and especially now, I realized that’s the wrong way to go about thinking and comparing the two. Coming from the U.S. myself, I thought western artists were really good singers but they, in my perspective, lacked certain things kpop idols had which made western music less appealing. I disliked it more and more over the years, but I know now that it’s not a problem of comparing but rather not even seeing them as equal on my part. All music is good music in its own way whether listeners recognize it or not, similar to art. You don’t have to understand it to love it nor do you have to love it to understand it. And you also don’t have to love it to think it’s good and vice versa. Music is subjective. I now believe western music gives me what kpop does not and kpop gives me what western music doesn’t, and there’s synergy between the two. I’ve been too close minded about where the music comes from and I made the cracks bigger by constantly reminding myself and focusing too much on the shortcomings/unsatisfactory aspects of western music that I lost sight of its beauty that makes it what it is.

marisol

as a Avril fan from childhood, this was such a fun surprise! also I think western artists tend to be allowed to exist in their comfortable range more than idols and as much as I respect the dedication of idols and their work, I do wish they weren't forced to push themselves to that degree EVERY time, because high notes are not the only way to be an amazing singer or performer. also ALSO, Avril put out Complicated and her first album when she was like ... 17 and she was signed I believe at 15/16? But to see her still singing so wonderfully even 22 years later after all the things she's been through is lovely.

Mali

Avril Lavigne‘s brother-in-law is actually One Ok Rock‘s bassist Ryota :)

Marie

What a good reaction!! I really love hearing you guys talk about music and these artists it's so enjoyable to watch. It was a nice break from kpop as a bonus reaction! ✨💕 I'd be interested in what you guys have to say about Jay Chang. By listening to his covers and song I just feel like he has a very western voice in a kpop environment.

formoftherapy
>>127402087

Yes! I really felt this last year and have been slowly reconnecting myself with American/Western artists. What’s funny for me, growing up I hated being Korean and Korean culture (even though I was actively living a Korean culture life at home). I didn’t realize it was living in America, the bullying and being an outcast that made me hate Korea. K-pop, especially 3rd gen, also made me feel like I straight up don’t like American and Western singers. I also would go so far and say Kpop was superior. But that’s also the magic of Kpop. I couldn’t stay that way for long. K-pop helped me appreciate just music and singers on a deeper level.

Ewtio

I had the pleasure to see her live this year and OMG she's still got it, she's amazing!

Chloe

I AM SO HAPPY you reacted to Avril Lavigne (and Harry) 😭 Avril was my first concert ever, back in 2003. I wanted to be her so bad growing up ❤️ such a massive fan still. So talented

Otto

Guys you should watch the first take XG's Shooting Star and Winter Without You

Brooklyn

I think the bulk of most western artist vocal training is done in preparation for/while on tour. Western artists often do far longer tours with many stops with almost no rest in between. So vocal coaching is not to change technique in the sense that the goal is altered tone, but to change technique to sing healthier so these artists don’t destroy their voices. I also think it’s why you hear such clear development over time with western artists. I mean, everyone including idols will have their voices mature with time. But the sheer amount of touring and general performing experience most western artists go through if they make it past a few years will turn anyone into a seasoned singer. One of the clearest examples I can think of is Taylor Swift. She was not a great live singer really up until the Red tour. 1989 showed growth in her stability and technique, and then Reputation and beyond shows just how expansive her vocal range and abilities have become. And you can hear this with Avril (and Harry) too. Her voice naturally projects without strain, and she makes intentional choices which I really love. Super fun reaction!!

Brooklyn
>>127457921

Thinking more about Harry too, 1D’s career was fucking jam packed. Five and five world tours albums in just over five years. They recorded each album while on tour because that’s the only time they had, and 1D always sang live. You simply have more choice but to become a healthy singer.

Sandy Cai

So many first take reactions!! please react to Stray Kids' First Take, they have a bunch!!