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Listening Party: Jung Kook 'GOLDEN' 1st Album (Patreon)

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2023-11-05 01:49:37
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beannieswife

y’all wearing beanies in honor to me🤭

valeria castillo

Oh soo excited for this Also PD when you can please reupload jimin listening party, the video isn’t working :(

ian (edited)

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2023-11-24 22:57:47 Hey PD LESSERAFIM just performed at BlizzCon if you weren't watching and they performed 7 songs! Here's the VOD if you want to check it out https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BDmgJ5-4XpmZt3Cv7ny3GAet5QMYNDRU/view?usp=sharing
2023-11-05 01:56:26 Hey PD LESSERAFIM just performed at BlizzCon if you weren't watching and they performed 7 songs! Here's the VOD if you want to check it out https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BDmgJ5-4XpmZt3Cv7ny3GAet5QMYNDRU/view?usp=sharing

Hey PD LESSERAFIM just performed at BlizzCon if you weren't watching and they performed 7 songs! Here's the VOD if you want to check it out https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BDmgJ5-4XpmZt3Cv7ny3GAet5QMYNDRU/view?usp=sharing

CJ

Yessss so excited. Been waiting to get your take on this 💜☺️

Liv

Jack Harlow says “SPY KIDS” in an adlib on 3D and I need someone to yell about this with me STOPPP WHY IS THERE A SPY KIDS 3D REFERENCE ON A JK SONG PFFFFT 😂

Harley

They just released his iHeartRadio live sessions of Standing Next to You and Seven by the way 👀 https://youtu.be/S9pq1HqJKSo?si=d9XV81Vctb1tXGSZ

Harley
>>121463229

It always makes me laugh when I listen to the song like he’s so unserious

Julia Guedes

This album’s a no skip album, it’s SO GOOD! Got me dancing, crying, and suffering for someone I don’t even met yet! It IS AMAZING

WiseSmellyLegs

Major Lazer is with LSD (Labrinth Sia Diplo) my favorite Diplo’s project! Actually Major Lazer and Dillon Francis are the reasons why I started to be interested in EDM. You definitely have heard something by Major Lazer. Lean On featuring MØ & DJ Snake was huge!! This project of Diplo is heavily based on dancehall and genres close to that. The beat you liked in Closer to You is derived of that as well

WiseSmellyLegs

Regarding Steve Yoo… it is worth mentioning he was exiled of Korea not only because he got the US citizenship, but because he did it to avoid going to the military in Korea. (Just to make it clear) EDIT: I wrote this comment to early… PD mentioned after all

WiseSmellyLegs

First I’ll answer your question. My favorite ones are Closer to You and Please Don’t Change. And now I am highly aware I should be cautious with my statements regarding Jung Kook’s solo… So I’ll start with that I know he is talented, he has the potential and in general I have nothing against him. But with Seven and 3D I wasn’t sure whether his solo will be for me and if I am even interested. Which made me sad, because after Jimin’s solo I was really looking forward to other BTS solos as well. (Before during BTS career only V, RM and Suga caught my attention). My problem with Seven and 3D was more less the fact it didn’t feel like Kpop in any way. And I don’t mind it being fully in English. Kpop could be in any language. And even though I agreed with PD’s statement of his solo being like Rain/Se7en of this age, I would still say Rain and Se7en had the Kpop flavor in it, but Jung Kook’s songs were like top tier form of Justin Bieber with high level care taken over it by the production team. And mind you! Back then I would listen to Justin Bieber a lot and even now I come back to his music. So… what’s my problem, right? 😅😅 I was simply hoping he would use his potential for Kpop scene (as well). I talked about this with a couple people and they told me I sound like I don’t want him to do what he wants. And that is not true. I mean… at first I was wondering if this is really 100% his choice. Not like Big Hit Music could order him something, but more like they would make an agreement with him in the way like: “We will make the solo much more US market/Pop focused than you would want on your own, because we know you can be the one of Kpop to make it and then with later releases it will be 100% up to you”. Obviously people made it clear for me that it is fully his will and I cannot say anything against that. But still I am thinking he could have made both. Like a perfect combination of Pop and Kpop to show us he is the one from the both sides. And again… if he really wanted to do purely Pop album, who am I to say something to him… But since he is coming from a Kpop group, which has been boundary pushing in many ways and brought many things to the Kpop scene, I would appreciate him to keep the Kpop element there somehow. The album is really brilliantly made with the producers willing to do that and being focused on evety detail. But I guess I was expecting something else and this kind of stuff isn’t my cup of coffee. Basically I was hoping I will be blown away as I was with Jimin’s solo for example. It was really personal, but epic at the same time. It showed me his side of an artists out of BTS, but still having the BTS element there (which could be applied to other BTS members as well). But with Jung Kook… it shows his side of him as a artist as well. It shows he is top/high tier Pop artist and probably the best form of a Pop artist, but if I didn’t know he is from BTS, I would not have guessed that. To end this thought of mine. I don’t think anything bad about his solo or him in any way. I was just expecting something different and although I know now his music might not be for me, I am somehow sad it is so different from the type of music of BTS. I wanted to say: “Maybe his music will grow on me, because for example with Dreamers I wasn’t into it that much at first, but now I like it a lot”. But I’ve just realized… when I listen to Dreamers, I don’t listen to it as Jung Kook’s song, as a song of Kpop artist or as if it was Kpop (because it is obviously purely western type of song), I listen to it as the type of song I would listen on the radio a decade+ ago, where I would just go: “Oh! That’s a nice one!” But I wouldn’t care about the artist and anything behind the creation of the song. So although I may start to like his songs more or to like more of his songs, I am not sure if that will make me like him more or to be curious about his new releases as it is with other BTS members and their solos.

Winter Rian ~ (edited)

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2023-11-24 22:57:47 Honestly I'm on the same boat as you. It's not K-Pop. At all. Many people enjoy it that way, but it's the main reason why I'm personally not interested. And to me, it kinda feels weird that people treat it as if it was K-pop. (Even "Seven" being nominated for korean award shows, but that's a different story that people might disagree on). If I didn't knew he was a member of a korean boygroup it would just be some random (but good produced) pop album from an american artist. And personally I don't care about and just don't listen to western music at all hence why I'm not a huge fan of it. I get why people love it tho because it's Jungkook. Personally I would've loved to see him do a K-pop album
2023-11-05 12:55:32 Honestly I'm on the same boat as you. It's not K-Pop. At all. Many people enjoy it that way, but it's the main reason why I'm personally not interested. And to me, it kinda feels weird that people treat it as if it was K-pop. (Even "Seven" being nominated for korean award shows, but that's a different story that people might disagree on). If I didn't knew he was a member of a korean boygroup it would just be some random (but good produced) pop album from an american artist. And personally I don't care about and just don't listen to western music at all hence why I'm not a huge fan of it. I get why people love it tho because it's Jungkook. Personally I would've loved to see him do a K-pop album
>>121480498

Honestly I'm on the same boat as you. It's not K-Pop. At all. Many people enjoy it that way, but it's the main reason why I'm personally not interested. And to me, it kinda feels weird that people treat it as if it was K-pop. (Even "Seven" being nominated for korean award shows, but that's a different story that people might disagree on). If I didn't knew he was a member of a korean boygroup it would just be some random (but good produced) pop album from an american artist. And personally I don't care about and just don't listen to western music at all hence why I'm not a huge fan of it. I get why people love it tho because it's Jungkook. Personally I would've loved to see him do a K-pop album

Tasia

I agree with you guys this album is such an ear warm. I loved the songs on the album I think closer to you would probably be an 8 for me I like the vibe but don't like empty choruses that much. But I really like that he wasn't doing too much with the vocals like a Baekhyun or Mariah Carey song on this album. This album really felt like he is about to start something big very fitting for a debut. I like that it was a nice vibe. Also I 100% agree with the lyrics for the whole album were really good. I don't really listen to American pop alot but for an album that sounds American I'm really happy he was able to sell it and make me believe him. For example Closer to you isnt my kind of song but the lyrics and his voice make me appreciate the song more than i thought i would. Overall I think I give the album a 10/10. Thank you PD for the reaction!!! My top 4 would be: Yes or No Somebody Shot glass of tears Seven. Also PD JK came out with an Iheartradio performance you should check it out when you can.

moonberry

He did a Weverse Live where he listened through the whole album and basically sang to every song. It was so nice to listen to. <3 If you have, time you should listen to it on or off camera :) https://weverse.io/bts/live/0-128993548

Karla

your reaction when somebody started playing HAHAHAHA on twitter my whole tl was confused i was like WHO IS THAT IS THERE A FEATURE?! and it was just him all along, he did a weverse live listening to the whole album and he sang somebody and sounded the exact same, there's some autotune there for stylistic purposes but it's just mostly him singing in his lower register which we don't get to hear a lot. Jungkook really challenged his self vocally for this album and we have to remember he's not a native english speaker and what he did here was flawless /chefskiss I feel like he's leveled up so much as an artist, all the tracks in Golden are so sooo good, the scale of this album is out of this world, CMON MAIN POP BOY. I fully agree with you guys that Golden should be nominated for a grammy. My favorites tracks are: Seven, Standing Next To You, Yes or No, Somebody and Shot Glass of tears. I'm so proud of JK :)

Karla
>>121480498

If you listen to Jungkook's words and have watched his countless lives, him doing this type of music comes as no surprise. He's always loved Pop, this is the type of music he likes and he's very good at what he does. He has also mentioned this specifically on the seven recording film "I'm Korean but I'd like to be the one and only singer who can cross back and forth between kpop and pop songs." All his choices are fully his and he's doing what he wants. I recommend his recent interview with The Atlantic, it's such a good read and to put things in perspective: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2023/11/bts-jungkook-solo-album-golden/675879/

Karla
>>121463290

yesss I want PD and Blair to see this so bad, these live sessions were so soooo good

WiseSmellyLegs
>>121480498

Thank you for providing me this article! As I mentioned I was only wondering/I wasn’t sure whether it was 100% his decision, but after learning about it more, I don’t doubt that at all. So I fully believe it is his own will. As I also mentioned my problem is not the language. It’s not like I would insist on it to be in Korean. When it comes to Kpop or music in general I think the language doesn’t define a genre. For example English, Japanese, Chinese or any other language version of a Kpop song doesn’t change the composition of it, because it stays the same, so why should the genre change, right? So even if the whole album was in Korean, it wouldn’t change anything from my side. I like the term: “to be a singer, who can cross back and forth between Kpop and Pop songs”!! That is basically what I was talking about. In the initial comment of mine I said: “I was simply hoping he would use his potential for Kpop scene (as well)”. The “as well” part is the important thing. I totally get he wanted his solo to be the way it is. Basically fully western pop-like. But I was thinking it would be cool to have this solo as the album of the artist, who could make both at the same time. Basically having songs of the both “sides” and showing us/the world he can bring the best of both worlds and to be honest he is the one of a few (and at this time probably the best one) who could have done it. So now after reading that article, I feel like I would appreciate that even more. Before it was more less my “wish”/idea. But now I wonder why it wasn’t done in that way. Like… he will definitely cross back and forth between Pop and Kpop once BTS are back as in the way like Pop is his solo and Kpop is the group’s music, but it would be so cool for him to do that on his own as well. Because no one can deny he can do that on his own as well 🙏🏽🙏🏽

Liv
>>121463229

Yep 😂 it always gets me, its always caught my ear at 2:52 and it’s in the official Apple Music lyrics iconiccc lol

ashleelei

idk why but transitioning from shot glass full of tears to seven (clean ver.) had me in tears bc it felt like a full circle moment in a way. like seven is not even a sad song lol but ending the album with the same song that signaled the start of this whole project feels very bittersweet

Liv

I NEVER THOUGHT ID SAY IT BUT I THINK THE CLEAN VER OF SEVEN HAS A PURPOSE AT THE END OF THE ALBUM I remember JK saying that the album is all about love, first half being falling in love then second half is heartbreak, but going from shot glass full of tears into the clean ver of Seven and it feels like a continuation of the story like the cycle of love starts over again;;;; if we take the clean ver of Seven to be literal + take into the account the MV interpretation of a toxic couple that can’t fully break up then it comes full circle: falling in love, heartbreak, but then still LOVING U every day bc he can’t stop,,,narrative wise it makes sense but also it means they can tack on another song at the end IT WORKS WHETHER IT ACTUALLY HAS MEANING OR NOT HYBE GENIUS STRIKES AGAIN

Bee
>>121480498

Whilst it is totally valid to have your own tastes and no one can fault you for that, I really wish there was less of this “Well /I/ wanted this from him” and “I wonder if this was /really/ his choice” attitude from some people. It’s okay to simply say “This isn’t really for me, but I recognise it’s well produced and hits its demographic well” without ragging on his choices, questioning his autonomy and stating your opinion with this undercurrent of “Why is he leaving kpop behind”. I do see that you’ve read articles and listened to him and you understand that this was his choice that he made, and that’s awesome. I just don’t think there’s any reason to be as put out as you are. His older stuff and BTS’ stuff is still here, you can listen to it, it’s not going anywhere. I’m really sorry if this comes across as harsh, but it’s so frustrating seeing them be boxed into people’s expectations and wants no matter now nice they are about it 😩. It should be okay for him to never make a kpop song again, if that’s what HE desires, without people constantly writing think pieces like this. He’s always been very clear about his love for western pop music and artists that he loves, so seeing him go in this direction was in no way surprising. I just wish people would trust him more off the bat rather than immediately questioning his choices and autonomy. Anyone who knows BTS should be more than aware by this point that they’re not being ragged around by their company. The company couldn’t do that to them, they’re worth far too much (still bringing in 60% of hybes entire revenue) In any case, when he was talking on live about his choice to not write or produce for this album, he did say that he would like to release some Korean songs in future that might be more along the lines of fan songs like Still With You, Magic Shop etc, so maybe you’ll vibe with those more 🙌🏻

Connie
>>121480498

I mean in his interviews he did say that his main audience for this project was for western media…

WiseSmellyLegs
>>121480498

🤔🤔 interesting that you mentioned: “It’s so frustrating seeing them be boxed into people’s expectations…”, because to be honest I feel like there are just a few people thinking like this. And I am saying “a few”, because I assume I am not the only one, but to be fair AuraFWI was the first person I have met to feel the same… Based on that I tried to phrase my words here as understandable as possible, because there were many people responding in a harsh way to my point of view. (So no worries, your comment wasn’t harsh at all. I appreciate someone was willing to spend their time on a comment of mine). Also… I get that you may see it frustrating, but on the other hand I would say it is okay to have these/any kinds of expectations, when it comes to something big as this. I mean… not just in Kpop or music, but in general. When people around start to talk about something and the person (in this case me) notices that, those expectations/thoughts come to the person’s mind or at least this is how it works with me. Maybe because I have faced negative feedback, I was trying too much to phrase it the best way possible, but it may have felt like I was trying to sound too much disappointed, which wasn’t the goal. For the end it is good to say that for people, who have been following BTS for longer time, this path of his wasn’t a surprise at all, that’s why I felt free to be corrected by others, but I personally started to be more into them with the Proof compilation album. Until that moment I was just a casual listener (that’s why I mentioned only V and RM with Suga caught my attention during those years).

WiseSmellyLegs
>>121480498

@Connie, I would just repeat myself again. I know it now. I think it is okay not to check everything around about everything I listen to, but to feel free to be corrected by others

Julianne

Idk if this is misinformation bc I haven't caught up with all of JK's promos, but I heard someone say JK wanted this album to be an homage to all the stars he grew up seeing as "golden" icons. So the album sounds like a JK-ified of all the really nostalgic iconic pop stars. Even if this wasn't JK's intention, it's a nice interpretation of the album. I see what people are saying with the western-pop style of the album. Frankly speaking, I don't necessarily follow BTS member albums for the genre. I like them bc it gives me a glimpse of their development as artists and people. Frankly speaking, it doesn't matter who it is, if I was just trying to "vibe" with the music, I almost never like a full album from any single person, ever. But BTS for me is different because I'm invested in them as artists including what they deem as representative of themselves and combination of years of effort. So yeah I'm not usually into western pop, but I enjoy and listen to this album bc they feel very JK to me. Regardless of what genre, I've enjoyed every BTS solo album bc they feel like a thorough representation of who they are as people and what they've felt in their 20s. I think what changes my perspective, is rather than hoping or trusting BTS to produce and create songs that I will like, I'm interested in learning to love and open to appreciating what BTS like.

Bee
>>121480498

Understandable if you got into them more around proof time. I think a lot of armys just feel very protective over BTS and their autonomy because we hear so much chatter all the time about them being “machines who are being used to get their company western validation” etc and it’s just so so far from the truth. Music is music and this connotation that they’re “losing their roots” when they go for a more western vibe is such a condescending and even racist view sometimes (I’m not saying you meant it that way, it was very clear that you were just talking about your musical preferences). I think the point I’m trying to make is that instead of saying “I wish he’d done this” or “he could’ve done this”, it’s better to just find an artist that IS doing those things that you want and enjoy them. Theres literally a whole world of artists out there that are catering to you by doing exactly what you like, there’s no reason to box him in. There’s no right or wrong in art and it’s up to the artist to decide what direction they take it, not us. We can feel disappointed that something wasn’t what we expected or maybe even wanted, but I just personally think it steps over the line when we start saying things like “I would appreciate him to keep the kpop element there somehow” because he simply just didn’t want to, and that’s of no one’s concern but his. Again, there’s a billion kpop groups (some of which you probably listen to who are already doing exactly what you’re looking for). Also, you said that “if I didn’t know he’s from BTS, I would not have guessed that” in reference to this album. And whilst I understand that, because the sound and vibe are so different, we also have to remember that the literal point of this chapter 2 in their careers is that they get to go off and explore themselves outside of BTS. It’s not /meant/ to be like BTS. It’s meant to be them. And this is him. Just because he might have strayed further from what BTS was/is with his sound and vibe, and just because you might associate other members solos more with what you expect from BTS and the members already, doesn’t mean he’s any less a part of kpop & the group, or that what he’s doing now is inauthentic. Anyway, thank you for the nice discussion! It’s so rare that you can have these intense conversations with kpop fans without it turning into a full on fight, lmaooo. And I really do hope that if he does put out those Korean songs he was talking about you can enjoy those more 🙌🏻💜

Kgirl

This is such a good album, and I love the progression from falling in love, to breaking up to starting over again(?)..I'm assuming that's why Seven was placed at the end. Jk's vocals and expression are stellar on this musical presentation. The emotion he portrays hits me every time I listen to it. He brings a realness to the lyrics. That's the only way I can describe the emotion he invokes within the listener. It's like entering the song. Anyway, he and the team did a great job on this. This is a masterpiece, and I share the thought about the Grammys. On first listen, it was one of my first thoughts. Well done to JK.

R875d

Jungkook did perform SNTY in Iheart radio *warning: remember to breath*

Kgirl
>>121502973

If I remember, I think he wanted to give a fresh spin to older music. It was not about paying homage to anyone. If I can find the source, I will share.

zae

loved your reactions !!! just came back to let you guys know jungkook did a live band version of standing next to you and seven it’s on bangtantv😏 and he also released a bunch of remixes for it and the band ver was one of them !!!!!!

Ewtio

Didn't watch the reaction yet but have to say that I LOVE Blaire's outfit today!

R875d

also, I really like that every song he sang it, in a different style, like how he pronounced the letters, etc. You can feel he put effort into every single song and give them a unique soul

SD

One of my dream K-pop collabs is Jungkook and D.O. Together

Jesse

PD can you please reupload HYBE game caterers? I can’t find it 😭

Ana

Totally agree with you!! Also PD if you don't know, there'll be a (free) showcase/concert on the 20th and hopefully they'll upload it to youtube... also the other day JK had a free surprise show at Times Square! People had 30 minutes advance warning and the crowd that showed up was craaaazy. When you're back next month, I hope you react to it (it's officially out on the BANGTANTV channel).

Ana
>>121958396

Also my favorite songs were Standing Next to You & Shot Glass of Tears!!!

Dom

coming back to this after there’s been live performances. on the start of somebody, i’m guessing there is some bit of auto tune, but he practically sings it the same way while live

WiseSmellyLegs
>>121480498

Sorry for coming back to this topic/discussion after basically a month. But when I read your last comment for the first time I was in hurry, so I just liked it and then forgot to reply. Thank you for appreciating the conversation we had. I have personally been to many "online fights", so because of that I always try to phrase my words the best way possible, although this time it may have felt like I am just saying the same again and again. I guess I used my words the way I wanted, but I just want to mention that since I am not English native speaker, it happens to me that sometimes I don't express my thoughts 100% correct/the way I would like to, so then it may sound to others a bit in the wrong way. I agree that although his solo is so different from BTS' music, it doesn't mean he is not a part of the group. But to be honest if I should choose which part of their discography is close to JungKook's solo it would definitely be the latests songs from Dynamite and so on. Which is fine (although I prefer their older music, I do enjoy Butter (mainly the Megan remix), but as you mentioned the Chapter 2 as RM said. He said during his speech that from Dynamite on it didn't really feel like them. If I remember correct he said the first chapter is from No More Dream to On and now comes the Chapter 2, which made me confused a bit... or not confused but it felt like they were not satisfied with the music after On (except Yet To Come for example). I mean, RM didn't say it out loud like this, he mentioned it didn't feel like the thing they are, so because of that the Chapter 1 ends with On and with their solos (and upcoming comeback in 2025) the Chapter 2 starts, but since JungKook solo is in my opinion closets of all the members to the music around the time after On, it made me confused and unsure about this path he chose, so that's why I expressed my feelings the way I did. That's all from me, I hope I made everything clear. And also... this part of your comment: "And I really do hope that if he does put out those Korean songs he was talking about you can enjoy those more 🙌🏻💜" I don't mind him doing his music in English, I am fully fine with that. In my case it is about the way the songs are composed. For example although there are people, who don't consider Dynamite and Butter as Kpop, for me it is still Kpop, although I can see it is on the borderline. But if he mentioned he would do Kpop focused songs as well, I am fully open to experience his music again. I don't want to sound like I am not interested in his work just because I am not into one album.