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Doctor Who 12x10 | Season Finalé - WATCH ALONG!! (Patreon)

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2023-06-14 20:41:11
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2023-06

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Fascinating capper to the main part of the season & Part 2 to the previous episode... VERY curious to hear what y'all think haha.  ALSO!  Had to shoot this before Facts were in, so those will be reposted in the comments below!

"The Timeless Children"

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thereelrejects

“The Timeless Children” facts 🔷 This episode had the most extensive use of archive footage in any Doctor Who media as of 2021 🔷 Tecteun and the Timeless Child's regenerations mark the first time female to male regeneration has been seen onscreen. However, the first depiction of a female regenerating into a male in any media was in AUDIO: Enemy Lines. In the case of the Timeless Child, multiple regenerations were shown, both female to male and male to female. 🔷 The episode's cliffhanger ending calls back to the cliffhanger endings of both Doomsday and Last of the Time Lords, in which the dumbfounded Doctor repeatedly utters the word "what?" in response to the events suddenly and rapidly unfolding around them. 🔷 This episode is the first time in the show's history, discounting full red and full blue from various previous stories, that clips from the William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton eras have been shown in colour. 🔷 This marks the second time the theme music has been used during a TV story, playing across the Doctor's Matrix mind-blow-up sequence. The first time was in The Woman Who Fell to Earth. 🔷 This story strongly implies that the faces in the mind battle with Morbius in The Brain of Morbius are incarnations of the Doctor, something long debated amongst fans, as these eight faces had not appeared since, with following stories seemingly debunking them. When The Doctor's regenerations are flashing through her mind, a sequence from the serial The Brain of Morbius: Part One (1976) is included, which showed regenerations of The Doctor that preceded the one played by William Hartnell. In the next serial, The Seeds of Doom: Part One (1976), it was established that Time Lords have only twelve regenerations, so that element of canon was discarded for 44 years until the revelations of this story made it possible for both serials to be accurate. 🔷 The Timeless Children made such a huge impact on the fandom as a whole that the episode made it into the satirical website News Thump. 🔷 The episode used an anagram for actor Sacha Dhawan on the Doctor Who website; "Barack Stemis" which, if re-arranged, becomes "Master is Back", and playing a false character called "Fakout". This tactic, discounting in-universe examples from 2007's Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords, has not been seen on television since The King's Demons in 1983. Back then it was used in the credits of the episode. Another more recent example is Mark Gatiss being credited, in the old tradition, as Sam Kisgart, for his role as a parallel universe Master, though this was more of a tongue-in-cheek reference to the classic trope than a genuine attempt at audience subterfuge. 🔷 This story is the third consecutive finale for an even-numbered season to feature both the Master and the Cybermen, following Death in Heaven and The Doctor Falls. 🔷 In the scene corresponding to the point where Tecteun's male incarnation stands alongside two other Time Lords in full high-collared regalia, the episode's script release mentions that "we can assume [the other two] might be Rassilon and Omega". 2nd assistant director Mark Corden cast himself as the Omega stand-in and hired a Don Warrington lookalike to play Rassilon, in homage to Warrington's portrayal of Rassilon in Big Finish. 🔷 Similar to Hell Bent, this story takes place primarily on Gallifrey and is the second season finale for its respective Doctor. 🔷 In a roundabout way, this episode also provides a televised fulfilment of the "Cartmel Masterplan". (The original plan for the show before it went on hiatus after season 26 until coming back in 2005) 🔷 The premise of this episode also fulfils several elements of the Hybrid prophecy from Season 9. A hybrid creature (the Spy Master had merged with the Cyberium), would stand over the ruins of Gallifrey and unravel the Web of Time (the Master had hacked into the Matrix), breaking a billion billion hearts to heal its own (the Master had also slaughtered the Time Lords after he became distraught at learning the truth of their origins). 🔷 This story is the third to feature multiple on-screen regenerations, following Planet of the Spiders and Twice Upon a Time, and the first such story in which the then-current incarnation of the Doctor is not among those shown to regenerate. 🔷 Early versions of this story referred to Ashad as the 'Cyberzealot', like the previous two episodes, and swapped the roles of Ryan and Yaz. Additionally, the death particle would have been created by the Cyberzealot as a mercy to kill humanity in the event of losing to the Cybermen. (DWM 570 supplement) On production documents, the Fugitive Doctor was named as Ruth, the Master as O, and Gallifrey as the village of Gilfach Goch in south Wales to disguise their real identities. (DWM 570 supplement) 🔷 When the Master requests an alliance with the Cyberium, he references the TV show The Apprentice, claiming he "deserves to be its business partner, because he has performed well in all the tasks", which was a common excuse used to become Lord Sugar's business partner. 🔷 When introducing the 'Cyber-Masters', The Master says: "For Gallifrey. For the Time Lords. For the end of the universe itself." This mirrors Lord President Rassilon at the end of The End of Time: Part One (2009) declaring: "For Gallifrey. For victory. For the end of time itself." 🔷 The Doctor and The Master arrive upon the desolate ruins of Gallifrey and the Master says, Look upon my works, Doctor, and despair". In 1818, Percy Bysshe Shelley wrote the sonnet 'Ozymandias' which contained the line, "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair." The Doctor had met Shelley in The Haunting of Villa Diodati (2020).

Matt R

personally i love doctor who, but i will never not hate this episode and change with my whole heart, doesn’t ruin the show for me as i just pretend it never happened 😭

The Adopted Whovian

I think people have completely misunderstood the Timeless Child for one reason or another. The Doctor being the Timeless Child builds on already established ideas from the Classic Series like Doctors before the First Doctor and the Doctor being a Time Lord Founder. And in terms of the character, the Doctor being the Timeless Child, more specifically an adopted foundling, builds on the fact that the Doctor has been characterised as a well meaning misfit that felt disconnected/out of place in the society that they grew up in. Feeling out of place/different in the society and family that you were adopted into is very common for adoptees, which as an adoptee myself is what I experienced. Chris Chibnall who wrote this story is actually an adoptee himself and said that being adopted was a big inspiration for this reveal. Some have accused the Timeless Child of being a chosen one/destined hero narrative, but nothing could be further from the truth. Tecteun found the Timeless Child completely by accident, it was a wrong place at the wrong time situation. Does it make the Doctor special, it depends which way you are viewing it. Every time the Doctor visits a planet they’re alien to the race that lives there, so the Doctor would naturally appear special and unique from their perspective because they’re an alien from another planet, but viewing it from the Doctor's perspective they aren't special for being an alien because they come from a planet full of people like them, and it's the same with the Timeless Child. Plus the Timeless Child wasn't the entire reason for the existence of the Time Lords, as it only showed one side of the story and where the ability to regenerate came from. Knowing the Time Lords they probably hid lots of dirty secrets about how they were founded, it echoes colonialism and how big empires are built on the theft of other cultures and races. I think a big message of this revelation though that kept being emphasised was that the Doctor is still the person they are now and who they choose to be now. What they discovered does change how they view themself and their identity because they have an unknown number of forgotten lives and don't know where they come from, but they are still the person they choose to be. When people say that the Timeless Child flushes 60 years of canon down the drain, that's extremely dramatic and just not true. The Timeless Child builds on already established ideas about the Doctor and creates so much mystery around them. When Doctor Who started in 1963 the Doctor's species and origins were a complete mystery because the creator of the show Sydney Newman didn't want those details expanded upon as that would contradict the very title of the show Doctor Who. It wasn't until a story in 1969 that the Doctor's birth place and race were revealed, and ever since then the mystery of the Doctor depleted. It wasn't perfectly executed but the Timeless Child and everything it reveals reboots the mystery of the Doctor, it creates so many questions about the Doctor and their identity like how long they've lived and how many lives they've had, what planet they come from and who their native species and biological parents are. The title Doctor Who really feels like it means something again.