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Interview with a Pedophile - Follow Up (Part 1) (Patreon)

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2022-12-14 15:00:05
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2024-02

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Dr Kirk Honda responds to emails regarding his interview with “Jay”, a Non-Offending Minor Attracted Person (NOMAP).


00:00 Trigger warnings & the reality of NOMAPs

09:47 'Normal' familial relationship intimacy 

35:53 Jay's unreliable narration, boundaries, & Humberto's trauma

45:27 Assessing what's appropriate  

46:12 Avoiding child exploitation & if Jay was Dr. Kirk's brother

58:08 Listening with a bias & finding sympathy

1:01:59 Language around being triggered & trigger warnings 

1:26:21 Perpetrators seeking victims

1:35:15 Childhood sexuality 


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Trigger Warning: This episode may include topics such as assault, trauma, and discrimination. If necessary, listeners are encouraged to refrain from listening and care for their safety and well-being.


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Anonymous

If you haven’t filmed part 2 already I would love to hear about how you have the bravery & confidence to express NOMAP compassionate treatment in your personal life & online. Even as a SA victim, it’s hard for me to express that opinion in real-life bc of people’s reactions.

Anonymous

I can’t help but feel angry and triggered with this topic. It worries me because I’m working towards getting my MA and becoming a LMHC, and can’t seem to shake my own bias when it comes to pedophiles. I can’t even bring myself to use the ‘MAP’ terminology. I’m a survivor of childhood SA and grew up with the abuser. I feel as though I have a sense now, like I can tell when not to trust a person in that way, and I have never ever in my life interacted with a pedophile who I could sympathize. I can’t help but feel like it’s a disorder or a type of manifestation of psychosis. There is never not an element of control or abuse in their feelings. I used to work on a boat on McNeil Island that would ferry committed child assault criminals to and from their incarceration center, and you could feel it, really feel the bad energy they carried with them. Jay gave me the same exact feeling. My mind shuts off the minute I feel it, and I’m taken back to that ‘fight them’ response just like I did as a child. All this to say, as someone who is working to not have these biases in order to be an ethical therapist one day, I don’t think I will succeed. Maybe that’s okay. I remember awhile back during an episode with Bob that he discloses that he won’t work with some patients who think about killing themselves, and that’s ok to not treat them if it’s outside your own health. Is it okay to speak out up front that you will not treat pedophiles? Because I feel like doing that perpetuates the stigma you are talking about reducing in this episode. Part of me doesn’t even care if does, part of me does. I don’t know. It’s a hard topic for me.

PsychologyInSeattle
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I already recorded it, but yeah, it's a risk. There has been a backlash, for sure. But if I shied away from these topics, I would be part of the problem.