Keep the Dream Alive Part 2: Damage Control (Patreon)

In this episode: scamming hotels; when touring gets tough; thin profit margins; the brutal real estate market; signing to a label.

Interviews with: Ben Gibbard, Joel Hamilton, and Laura Dean.

Featured tracks: "The New Year" by Death Cab for Cutie, "It Ends With a Fall" by Okkervil River, and "You Were My Fiji" by John Vanderslice.