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Poll is now closed. Dark auto won (you can click the link below if you want details). However, for anyone who likes light mode, fret not. I found a way to export both light and dark from LibreOffice with a macro (not dark rrl, that would be significantly harder). I also took the opportunity to fix the epub metadata, though this required learning more VB than I would have preferred. C'est la vie. I've attached light, dark, and new epub versions of everything since chapter 100, as well as the export script for those with a high VB tolerance.


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Now that we've had a few chapters in dark theme, let's have a vote. Take a look at the three different options, then go here to rank them. I am trying to find the option that works best for the majority of people, which is hard because of all of the different pdf and epub readers floating around out there.

If this link doesn't work, try it a few more times. Rankit seems to have some issue with redirects that breaks things about 1/4 of the time for me.

https://rankit.vote/vote/4wd55glqsne1P20qSSfL


Also, FPTP sucks.

Comments

JT

I dont care. Anyone who cant get an epub reader that applies whatever format they want is a bad. That's one of the major epub draws.

Patrick Short

I like the Dark myself

Anonymous

Just not rll cant read without dark mode on my reader

SunderGoldmane

Patreon app crashes with this link.

SoggyBiscuit

There should be a "I'm an epub reader so my vote doesn't really count" option tbh.

lockx

Patreon app leads to a page doesn't exist page for me. The rrl one was the worst when not in dark mode, the other two were fine with both.

D

i dont get it... but i read dark pdf, if that helps...

John Bierce

I have a strong astigmatism, light text on a dark background is physically painful for me- to the point where reading more than a few hundred words can leave me with a debilitating headache. (A great number of people with astigmatisms have trouble with light text on dark backgrounds- not usually as severe as me, but definitely painful to read. There's a reason it's banned at many academic conferences for slideshows.) There are technical workarounds that can fix the problem for me, but they are a bit of a hassle every time- please, please have the option to have just a plain, light background PDF.

Anonymous

I really don't understand why the dark background. Were the people complaining?

Anonymous

Dark mode is available almost everywhere. Its easier on the eyes usually and uses less battery.

Jeff091

i am reading the epub version i configured my reader so far that i didn't even notice your experiments, all 3 versions look the same: dark grey background (lighter than your pdf-rrl background) and light grey writing (about the same as your pdf-rrl writing) if i have to evaluate the PDF Best: dark rrl 2 best: dark auto (honestly not much of a difference to dark rrl, just a bit whiter writing) not my preference: plain (i don't realy like white background)

Daoist

I was reading the pdf version so far. After last week I wanted to read the epub to have a light background but when I tried it today, the text was all light grey and annoying to read (and my attempts to change it failed) so I went back to the dark pdf. I'd rather have it as it was before though.

Anonymous

if you could make the black background every so slightly brighter that would be nice

Jeff091

what epub reader are you using? I am using EPUBReader, a firefox addon. It is very adjustable and recomended by firefox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/epubreader/?src=search adobe reader also gives such option: https://www.howtogeek.com/258313/how-to-invert-the-colors-in-a-pdf-file-in-adobe-acrobat-reader-for-easier-nighttime-reading/

Yshua

Just not dark_rrl, it looks bad in ePub when you turn it white. I have a vote for a different thing though: chapter number/title and author metadata in the ePub. My reader app is full of Unknown/Unknown with no cover!

Orion Dye

Dunno if you can do it, it maybe a format that lets people customize the layout to their preference. Seems like people are too varied on their preferences/needs. A vote would just leave a minority of people unhappy, especially since it’s a pho-dichotomy vote. A more adaptable format would be the more elegant solution.

Jeff091

most epub readers give a lot of options the same for most pdf readers "How to" for adobe reader: https://www.howtogeek.com/258313/how-to-invert-the-colors-in-a-pdf-file-in-adobe-acrobat-reader-for-easier-nighttime-reading/

Anonymous

As someone reading the epub versions, I chose "plain" and "dark auto", simply because they don't seem to interfere with my reader's settings (I set it to have a sepia theme ; neither black-on-white nor white-on-black). However, the pdf people will probably vote differently, for very different reasons, than the epub people like me.

Anonymous

Couldn’t check ePub I don’t have a reader for that. However the pdf on my tablet works just fine. I couldn’t tell the difference between the darks. However they were far easier to read for me.

Eric Trombly

I use readera on android with the epub. So it was already in dark mode, I have noticed sometimes the text overflows the tables though, and the interface at the beginning of the most recent chapter didn't display correctly at all.

Cameron C

Nice first past the post voting comment.

Sean Quinn

I like the dark better, because yeah.

Talen Drake

Either dark is fine, but it would help if you increased the font size significantly.

Heraclitus

Dark is immensely nicer to read.

Wanous

Dark please

Dee

Plain works best for iBooks, Kindle, and Calibre, as they all support user theming. I have bad eyesight and the last chapter was difficult to read to too lower contrast than I prefer between the text/background.

Dee

It might also be good to take a poll of what e-readers people use. I suspect many complaints are coming from folks who are unaware of better alternatives. As an author, it may also be easier to pick a few popular ones and just support those.

fbt

i normally just read it here inline (or on RR)..the d/l actually adds steps for me, although the plus is I get an archive. I prefer std blk-on-white by far.

Ole Halvorsen

I mean both the dark one is completely the same, but I think the one that is not that bright is better for the eyes when your reading in the dark. Another possible way is to not make the background as black.

Anonymous

Am I the only one that would prefer plain text in the main Patreon post? That’s how all the other novels I sub to on patreon do it and it’s super easy to read whether I’m on desktop or mobile.

fbt

no, that's my pref as well. Of the half dozen I'm currently funding this is the only one that *doesn't* do that.

Anonymous

Dark auto works the best for me on pdf, but I use MoonReader on Android so I can customize epub as needed.

Findell

Dark auto pdf is my prefered choice.

Anonymous

Anything but plain gives me headaches :(

Anonymous

I like plain, but in my epub reader the format is overwritten anyway

Elephin

I usually read the epub version and change the theming as I like, so that doesn't matter to me. But, would it be possible to add a "title" to the epubs? As is, my iBooks is currently full of Unknown Titles which is bearable but less than ideal.

SenescentSoul

The ones in the .zip attached here should have title, author, language, and cover image.

Anonymous

Linux?

Ellija

I contacted patreon and they seem to have finally fixed the annoying bug with attachments on iPhone so I can finally see them on posts.

Gio

The way I usually do is I start up Magnify and press Ctrl+Alt+I to invert colors, instructions: 1. Start run command by pressing "Windows Button + R" 2. Type in magnify and press enter 3. Set magnify to 100% and full screen 4. press "ctrl + alt i" to invert colors

Anonymous

Awesome, this fixed all tables in ReadEra

His Dad

Dont forget the Bank. He's going to wander in to give Wolf a hug goodbye and the Bank attacks!!