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PERCEIVE!

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The wise sorceress? She, um... She's tired from the walk there? Yeah, that's it.

The highly trained, noble paladin? Why, of course, the reason he doesn't notice these things, is obviously he saw a cloud that looks like his god, and thought maybe it was a sign.

The excessively observant rogue was thinking about gold or something.

The bard... Bards NEED attention to detail, okay? It's just common sense she's the one who noticed all this stuff.

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Thisguy

Well, without knowing what their stats, level, or proficiencies are, I can't judge how good each one's perception should be. But that's how the game works. Besides, perception is one of those skills which everyone wants, and bards are known to be quite skilled.

M.

On the plus side, now Ellen doesn't have to deal with the party not noticing the mine carts and mine cart tracks as they head into the mine. :p

Some Ed

All of that said, character stats do not impact the chance for a natural 20. Just saying, so you know. I've had players who did not understand this concept. "What's wrong with my stats? Why do I keep rolling a 1 on my D20 roughly 5% of the time?"

Crissa Kentavr

In a recent table too game I played, my Druid with no bonus to Charisma or Dexterity ended up the face and first-mover in half the combats just because I rolled a twenty and had the appropriate language. The die is powerful.

A Red Mage Named Blue

Natural 20s also don't cause an automatic success for skill checks. But for something like noticing a cart full of tools, anybody's stats should be good enough

John Trauger

Most DMs would give you more data for a better roll. Make it, you see the cart. decent roll you also see the tools. Good or great roll you get everything from the previous bundles and see that the tools are recently used.

AstroChaos

On the flip side, my Tabaxi monk was the face of the party in a campaign in the underdark because he was the only one that spoke the right languages... with a negative 1 modifier. He once had a roll off with a NPC he was trying to convince where both I and the DM rolled Nat 1's... and I lost and ended up getting the party into a tough fight because the NPC had a flat 0, to beat my -1 😭

AstroChaos

Bards are always the best 😏

Latency

I usually handle these rolls as a DM behind the screen, and unless there's a reason to hide the knowledge from the party any success just reveals the information to all. Maybe the paladin notices the trap but for lore reasons I might say it's the rogue. This is also because of how many situations have called for a perception roll, had the entire party fail, and then they proceed to find an excuse to leave. (You hit one person with a green slime and all of a sudden no one wants to walk under arches, sheesh!!) Depends on the maturity of the group though. If it's with players I know will stay in character, I'll let them handle the rolls since I know they can accurately portray their character without meta-ing.

Latency

in general though I don't like perception checks. In most of my games if the characters are in an adventuring posture I'm going to assume they're likely to spot most relevant things unless they are intentionally hidden.

Relia

Man, she's just happy to be here. I love her