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BERSERK: Manga Volume 23 Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-06-15 17:00:10
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*STRUGGLING HEADPHONE WARNINGS*

Okay, so I feel bad this volume, because the darkness definitely got the better of me. This volume, along with Volume 22, was HARD. Triggering emotionally, and just very bleak and heartbreaking. I know we got to hit rock bottom before we can start climbing...but I thought we'd already BEEN there, so this was a blow.

I'm going to bring Whiteboard-kun out next week, re-evaluate Volumes 22 and 23 and get through this deluxe volume 8. My vacation after this volume - and your comments for 21 and 22 - HELPED SO MUCH. This was just a very mentally brutal volume for me.

Thank you for watching with me and for all the support!

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Romania Black - BERSERK: Manga Volume 23 Reaction! THE STRUGGLE IS REAL!

**STRUGGLING HEADPHONE WARNINGS** Okay, so I feel bad this volume, because the darkness definitely got the better of me. This volume, along with Volume 22, was HARD. Triggering emotionally, and just very bleak and heartbreaking. I know we gotta hit rock bottom before we can start climbing...but I thought we'd already BEEN there, so this was a blow. I'm going to bring Whiteboard-kun out next week, re-evaluate Volumes 22 and 23 and get through this deluxe volume 8. But after that, Romania may need a week or two off. This has really taken a mental toll on me. Miura...What we doing? Thank you for watching with me and for all the support! Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/RomaniaBlack My Anime: https://myanimelist.net/profile/RomaniaBlack Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/RomaniaBlack You can mail me a letter or anything (except food, please) at this address: Romania Black PO Box 768 Harrisburg, IL 62946 USA

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A mere Almond

If you interpret Miura's intentions with graphic explicit SA as misogyny, sexism and fan service, then yes, all of this is very confusing. Now Griffith is back. And he is a hero. He is beautiful. Everyone loves him. He is Godlike. Why???? But if you interpret Miura's intentions as depicting SA as the deepest depths of evil and the domain of demon kind, then there is no confusion. Griffith is back. The king of demon kind. The demon kind we have witnessed constantly engaging in SA. If you are anti SA, then you must also be anti-Griffith. If you are anti SA, you are not being fooled by Griffith. This has been the main theme/thesis of Berserk from the very very start. You should be wary of people who have incredible ambition and achieved "amazing things". They might have used people as stepping stones to get there. The famous politicians, businessmen, and celebrities you see on TV may appear "beautiful on the outside", but actually be "demonic" internally. If you want to summarize Berserk to someone, this paragraph is the only honest way to describe it. All other themes are secondary. Maybe you are right. Berserk is simply misogyny and sexism {I completely disagree}. But if you interpret the entire story through this perspective, you will be missing out on the INTENT OF THE STORY. So at the very least, you should be able to tell the world that "Berserk has very good intentions. But the author has too much intrinsic bias against women. It's too misogynistic and sexist." Once again, Miura is sending signals. Innocent Mule is asking Griffith where the souls are heading. "Are they heading to heaven?" Sweet summer child. Yes you are right. Griffith said "they are heading to a place where they will become one." Drops in the ocean of dark souls. That vortex of hell. I think my volume 22 comment was considered spoilery. So I will try again. I think it will clear up confusion. But if it's too spoilery, then I give up. Its hidden below. Skull Knight previously mentioned that the Godhand do not exist in the physical realm. They can only temporarily manifest in the physical realm. Demonic magic, energy from the egg apostle and energy from the alignment of the planets and stars, created enough energy to use the flesh of Guts jr. to create a new physical body for Femto. So now, for the first time, we have a Godhand member physically existing in the physical realm. There were some very important lines this volume directly from Griffith. "Nothing has changed" "You should have known who I am" "I will not betray my dream". I would say its confirmation that this is Griffith. And also confirmation that he is evil. Another big line from Griffith was "My heart should be frozen. It must be the boy who fused with my vessel" Griffith is referring to the boy as a separate entity. "I came to see if my heart would be shaken by you. It seems, I am free". - This line reveals the motivation behind the SA of Casca. Griffith was testing to see if he was free of his only weakness. His weakness was feelings of empathy, friendship, regret. Casca was meaningless to Griffith. He SA Casca to make Guts suffer. And he carefully watched Guts suffer and felt nothing. He was free of his emotions after becoming a demon.

Lynden

Here is my take (BeHappy, I apologize in advance): Miura wanted to make a Conan type character that could go around saving damsels and killing demons. He did this so he could make money from the people who like to read stuff like that. The SA scenes are in the manga for the same reason they're in those old barbarian comics: they're meant to titillate the juvenile readership. He needed a dumb female character for the male protagonist to fuck/protect like all of those old stories, so he came up with a contrived explanation to create that situation. At this point this "story" is just: damsel in distress gets kidnapped and the big muscle man has to rescue her (but not before her shirt gets torn off). It's the most basic, bland, boring setup imaginable. It's like he wrote the Golden Age arc, which is brilliant, all to get to this point which is just generic fantasy slop. All the while an army of apologists talk about how brilliant it is. Let's get this straight: when people talk about Berserk and rate it highly and talk about how great it is, they aren't talking about any of this, they're talking about the Golden Age arc and the artwork. Ask the average anime fan who Farnese is, they'll have no idea, no one reads that far. Which brings me to my next point. You hit the nail on the head when you said the popularity of the anime is what led Mirua to bringing Griffith back. People started to pick up the manga after the anime and said "why is this horse trying to fuck this woman? where is Griffith?" So he brought him back in a convoluted ass-pull to try to get people to pick the manga back up after the success of the anime. The fanboys will try defend Miura by pointing to an obscure and hard to find French interview he did once where he kind of says that maybe he went too far in some places. They have no trouble finding where he says not to read chapter 83 or any problem respecting his wishes in that regard. If Miura really regretted any of this, he could have said so, he could have asked the publishers to cut out a few pages of this crap and it would have no effect on the story at all. He didn't do that, why? Finally, look at Monster. Monster by Urasawa deals with the dark side of human nature and some really nasty stuff happens in that manga, but it doesn't explicitly pose it and dwell on it and revel in it the way Berserk does. Monster came out in 1994, so you can't even say that it was a different time or that he had to include that stuff to get published because of audience demand. There is literally no excuse. I'm very glad that you're reading through this, because it has completely changed my opinion of this series. It does get (marginally) better from here, but the actual premise, where we started and where we ended up with Berserk actually sucks.

romaniablack
>>140958268

Thank you for the comment! I will be honest, your tone to me is a little accusatory in that you claim I just think Berserk is misogynist and sexist. I would not continue reading if that were the case, I assure you. Personally, yes, I think my issue is that I believe Miura is depicting SA too much; in the way he poses Casca and other women like pinups. We only had ONE, possibly TWO pages of SA content involving Guts in the entire manga, and everyone notes how horrific it was for him and to read. But how many pages have we had with SA against Casca? Nearly every other woman in this series? I can go on and on about it. I’ve had to read it for volumes and volumes. But I digress. I would say the idea of ambition and pride goeth before the fall are major themes of Berserk; I’d have to respectfully disagree for now that it’s the MAIN theme – we’ll see how I feel once I catch up to the story with Miura’s portion. I’m NOT saying Berserk is completely misogyny and sexism. And I’m understanding quite a lot of the story and its themes – I’ve been talking about them for 23 volumes. However, to say that Miura is a flawless writer, I cannot. He makes decisions as a writer that I feel are flawed. But because I love this story, and because no story is above criticism, it deserves to be analyzed – the good and the bad and the ugly of it. And yes, in Volume 24 I will talk about a lot of what you say; I had read 22 and 23 back to back so I hadn’t had time for that information to reach me. I am sad that he’s back in this story – as if our crew didn’t have enough to deal with! Thank you for the comment!

romaniablack
>>140968588

No need to apologize to me (though I feel for BeHappy reading all these comments ahead of time)! Thank you for the comment! Honestly, your Conan comment is what I fear for this series’ future with Casca – he did amazing with Casca’s character in the Golden Age arc – made me fall in love with the depth of writing with her..and then…it just…gets retconned and now she’s a damsel in distress with no way to defend herself, even though she helped and stood beside Guts all those times before? And it’s just…supposed to be explained as the result of trauma? For 10+ volumes with no sign of her improving? I’m really hoping that she eventually comes around and out of it…but the realist in me isn’t hopeful. *perky face* We’ll see, though! I did talk about that French interview in a volume past – and YES, I keep waiting for Miura to apologize or acknowledge that what he’s done was not the best decision, but even in THAT interview, he tried to force blame elsewhere instead of just owning up to it. And YES. Exactly. Monster is a great example of a series that can dwell on some insanely dark subject matter but never be gratuitous. And it still gets the point across! Thank you for the comment! I’m going to trudge through and I’m glad that you’re supporting my read-through! We’ll see how my views of it go from here! Wish me luck!