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Madoka Magica Ep 10 (Patreon)

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Ahhh what a wonderful waste of time end discussion argument that yall now get as content cause of an error on my part and Lupa lmao

Kyubey fucked up with Akemi though

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Ayman Gebrail

Magical girls only know pain

Sylfe

ive been excited for this ep all day

Norrin Radd

This episode made this show a CLASSIC!!! Homura is GOATED!!!!

Liam Gilbert

For reference, it's about 1 month of time between Homura waking up in the hospital and Walpurgisnacht showing up, and it was confirmed that Homura repeated that loop over 100 times, meaning she's spent about 8 years trying to save Madoka.

Ougi

Fun fact this shit was written by the same dude as Fate Zero, Gen Urobuchi

HorriblyUnoriginal

Why do you call her Akemi? Homura is her given (first) name, Akemi is her family (last) name. It's the only character in the show where you do this.

Bria A.
>>116878771

Sometimes Roshi calls them by their surname / family name and sometimes by their given name (usually surnames for anime and k-dramas, I’ve noticed, probably bc of the naming order), it’s just whatever sticks first I think lol

itsfidy

the reason she could go back before madoka becomes a magical girl is because madoka herself says she only became one recently. she says became one "last week" and that was when homura was in the hospital so she just left earlier to stop madoka.

KimKaiRen

This anime is basically Groundhog Day

Homura

Homura just starts leaving the hospital earlier than she was before, Madoka becomes a Magical Girl in around the first week or so of the timeline (Which I believe every loop is around 1 month long total from Homu waking up all the way to Walpurgis). Instead of waiting around to get discharged for her heart condition she just uses magic to fix her 'container'(since their bodies aren't theirs anymore) and fuck outta the hospital and get to work immediately.

Hasnain Khan

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

itsfidy
>>116879411

nvm y'all realized y'all clapped yourselves later on LMAOO

Omar

Ay yes, this end discussion brings me back to the Bed Theory from Vinland Saga season 2 ya had. I love it here.

RinCaimo

Sheera was right.

Omar
>>116880305

Oh shit, you actually mention bed theory 😄

Kami_Psy

Homura is going back to the same point everytime its just that instead of waiting for a specific day/time to leave the hospital and go back to school, She leaves to go to school as soon as she time travel back so she can stop Madoka. So basically, the reason Madoka was already a magical girl in the 1st timeline was because Homura took her time coming back to school but in the other timelines she rushed back.

Ronnie

One step closer to godoka💃🏻

JackTheDaniels

This is one of the best episodes of the series, I read a comment a while ago, it said that Homura spent more than 20 years trying to save Madoka before the first episode. The other thing, each timeline (just like in STEINS;GATE) have differences between them, certain things change, for example, Sayaka didn't become a magical girl before, or that Madoka changed the day she made the contract with Kyubei. I'm waiting for the next episodes!!

Bryan Lim

If you read the lyrics of the OP(ending) song, you will know its actually about Homura....everytime when the song played in the beginning....im like ahhhhhh

Benjamin Moore

I've been waiting for ya'll to react the this episode. This episode completely sold me on Homura. I literally got goosebumps when they played the opening at the end of the episode. One: that where the show actually began (episode 1). Second and mostly importantly, it shows that the opening songs lyrics are from Homura's perspective.

RinCaimo
>>116880358

Also, LORD the amount of pain Homura had to endure. Also yeah it's amazing to watch people go from "aw Kyubey is so cute!" to "FUCK THIS CAT."

Reuben Filimaua

Its brilliant bringing the opening at the end of the episode, with this added context now. At first glance, yeeah it may seem deceiving with all the cutesy visuals and upbeat music. But if you read the lyrics, the song is depressing and melancholy. The lyrics also seem to be about Homura's feelings. So the opening never deceived you. We just never took notice of the darker and sad implications hidden underneath the surface given via the lyrics 😂 Pretty fitting for this show in general and Kyubey's nature of deception.

Gabby Boakye-yiadom

So you can probably imagine how jaded Homura must get going through this sequence over and over. It's pretty much a self fulfilling chain of events. Mami always dies or cracks under the revelation of the truth. Sayaka's too stubborn and inevitably goes through her regret and depression arc into a Witch which also leads to Kyoko's death trying to save her. And the final straw Madoka and Homura always lose to Walpurgisnacht leading to Madoka transforming or getting mercy killed. Rinse and repeat.

Friendly Elites

Its never stated but it's heavily implied that Walpurgisnacht is an amalgamation of multiple witches, so it roams as a force of nature and each Magical Girl that tries to fight it either dies in battle or despairs and turns into another witch further strengthening it. This shows just how evil the Incubators are, while they say only a few human lives are being sacrificed they are more than willing to cause the eradication of the entire human race so long as their goal is accomplished.

Cuban Macaw

Roshi is competing with kyubey for the champion of gaslighting with that end segment LOL

MDLNubes

If you enjoyed this episode: Madoka Rebellion Movie is now mandatory

Freeofgreed

Damn Roshi clapping himself hard 😂

awwtysm

Wow the past few episodes have seriously raised the level of this show even further beyond my expectations. Really excited to see what's next. I love shit that gets better on rewatch and I'll definitely watch this again in my own time after y'all finish the show.

Bria A.

The discussion argument was so funny, but yeah, Homura’s hospital stay predates her going to school — the jump cut to the math problem might’ve been confusing, but I’m pretty sure that was still on her first day. So they were essentially saying “you’re behind in coursework because you’ve been out all this time”. This is my favorite episode. Homura is pretty much desensitized to everything except Madoka because she’s just been running time loops for like…a decade straight. She doesn’t have as much raw potential but she’s nasty in combat through pure experience and knowledge.

Drake Chuckle

This is my first time rewatching this and it's actually so much better on a rewatch, not that I didn't like it before.

Homura
>>116881915

Recommend watching the sequel movie "Rebellion" before you do your rewatch, it adds even more layers of recontextualisation to an already great story!

Benjamin Moore

You probably already figured this out, but Roshi has the timeline wrong. Homura is in the hospital before she transfers into Madoka's class. I like the theory where she time leaps back the same point every time, just that she heals herself and goes to school earlier (before Madoka makes her contract). Also like everyone is saying she has been looping for several years (creator says that in an interview). Also she has definitely tried to tell everyone the truth, but they never believe her (like the example in the episode).

Ougi

What ur confused about is that homira didn't transfer to school and then go into hospital, she came to school after getting out of it, them girls mentioned the 6 months of hospital because in the first timeline she was still weak from being bedridden for those 6 months. Also madoka mentions in the scene with the realistic cake that she became a magical girl a week ago but at that point homura had been at school longer than that and since the restart point is before she starts school she can go back stop madoka , which is shown in the scene of homura at madokas window telling her not to make a contract with kuybey.

John Endaya (edited)

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2023-12-06 21:40:43 Yo Sheera deserves to clap you both in the head for that shit, that was MAD frustrating.
2023-09-05 23:40:10 Yo Sheera deserves to clap you both in the head for that shit, that was MAD frustrating.

Yo Sheera deserves to clap you both in the head for that shit, that was MAD frustrating.

Roberto (edited)

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2023-09-06 01:44:17 LMAO Sheera clapping Roshi's cheeks at the end discussion xD
2023-09-05 23:40:48 LMAO Sheera clapping Roshi's cheeks at the end discussion xD

LMAO Sheera clapping Roshi's cheeks at the end discussion xD

awwtysm
>>116881915

Noted. I can't wait, imo the best media is stuff that gets better the more you interact with it and this is seriously already up there with me and I have full faith they'll nail the landing. I can already imaigne all the details I missed since this is my first viewing

John Endaya (edited)

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2023-12-06 21:40:43 Eyo, EIGHT? I thought it was 3. 8??? Of the same stupid month over and over?? YO.
2023-09-05 23:42:36 Eyo, EIGHT? I thought it was 3. 8??? Of the same stupid month over and over?? YO.
>>116878536

Eyo, EIGHT? I thought it was 3. 8??? Of the same stupid month over and over?? YO.

Ougi

Also one more thing u might not have noticed was that, in the earlier timelines we saw madoka losing to walpurgisnacht even with mamis help however in the later timelines kyubey says madoka one shot it.

MDLNubes

Props to Sheera, Im the same typa stubborn

Friendly Elites

BTW when Madoka said she didn't have a Grief Seed but pulled one out anyway, it was Sayaka's you can tell from the lines on it. She was trying not to use the last remnant of her best friends soul but decided to so she could save Homura.

Jacob R

Should not have let Roshi cook in the outro.

Obsessive Fanatic

This was the episode when I realised this anime was misnamed. It shouldn’t be called Madoka Magica, it should be called Homura. This was the biggest twist for me, not the dark tone, not the true nature of Magical girls, witches or Kyubey. It was that the main character was also a lie. This is a story about a girl trying to defy fate in order to save the one she loves.

Fizzy

this was the moment Homura became my favourite character in the show

Oh Alone

The ED(OP) is about Homura keeping her promise to Madoka all along

Alex

Oh no more bed theory!

Marshall Lee

its not stated in the show, but homura went back in time 100 different times. Meaning she relived that month 100 times.. she spent 12 years tryna save her.

Imari
>>116882642

I love when they talk for a longer time about a show it shows how well they pay attention (sometimes) lol.

Basedra

So she did outright tell them kyubey was lying etc and they didn’t believe her which is why she doesn’t do that method anymore.

grodon909

Roshi getting clapped more than he's ever been clapped before lmao. Anyway, not sure if y'all caught it, but in the current Timeline, Kyubey said that Mami never knew that magical girls were basically teenage girl flesh mechas. In this episode, we also see that, if she does learn this (e.g. if Homura tries to tell them), she goes crazy and has to be killed. It's like Subaru's Re-Zero, except she's repeating it hundreds of times.

NovaVortex

It takes 2 hands to clap once and it took 1 nigga to clap himself in that end discussion 🤣 Them yams done cooked alright, well done steaks at the end lol Yo if Lupa ain't providing detective like feedback then you know he keeping quiet cause he ain't trying to get clapped xD

Ranginald Vagel

Damn this was one of the hardest discussions Sheera ever had to fight thank god she’s committed to being right especially when she’s right

Norrin Radd

When watching shows like this in Japanese there are points that are lost in translation. In shows like this and Psycho Pass where you have to pay attention to what they're saying you can miss things because of the mediocre subtitle translation that come across a lot more clearly in English script. I honestly don't get why English speakers insist on watching shows like this in Japanese when they don't understand the language. The writing is so much more intuitive for English speakers IN ENGLISH, and not being able to understand what the characters are saying doesn't make you hip, it just makes you confused about the simplest points. Just saying.

Senpai Seviin

Homura is the ultimate best friend tho.

不死鳥
>>116885868

I dont mean to say youre wrong, I just dont quite understand your point so Ill ask this but, whether you take in the english sentences through reading subtitles or through listening to the script, wouldnt the end result be the same? From how you said ''mediocre subtitle translation'', maybe you mean that the english script is more well done than subtitles? But if theyre both made by crunchyroll wouldnt their quality be the same? Or maybe you meant that the voice actors can put emphasis in different words, causing different nuances to be noticed? Although I dont see why call the translation mediocre for the subtitles in that case. And as a conjecture Id like to suggest the idea that wouldnt professional subtitles be more accurate than a professional script for the dub? Reason being that subtitles dont have constraints of words and time, due to lip flaps and animation durations, and as different languages take different amounts of time to express the same idea, that would cause the english side to often end up having more or less time or lip flaps to say something it wants to say, creating unnaturality that otherwise wouldnt be an issue in subtitles. As for the off chance that you meant the idea of nuance being put into words through voice acting, I think thats a very fair point, but I do think it can be balanced out by what I mentioned above, and by the clearly more well developed and invested on voice acting industry of japan, causing many to cringe at english voice acting for its more often than not ''unprofessional'' sound when compared to its original counterpart, although that is of course their personal opinion and feelings about it, with lots of subjectivity put into play. Not only that but theres the simple idea that many people like to watch shows in general in their original language, not at all limited to just anime. Anime or not many people enjoy the idea of watching the original one and at the end of the day, who are we to judge others for how they want to enjoy a show right? Again, not trying to start a war, only trying to have a nice interchange of opinions on the topic, hopefully I wont get any angry people attacking me or cursing my life lmao. Subs or dubs feel free to enjoy the show however you want! And if anyone says youre wrong then theyre weird.

Delinda Arts

Lupa was the Kyubey of the outro LMAO

Norrin Radd
>>116885868

CURSE YOUR LIFE!!!! I don’t mind people’s preferences. Some like cold water, I like room temp. No biggie. But I will admit that a pet peeve of mine that people irrationally deny that it is easier for people to understand what’s being said when they… understand what’s being said. Reading subtitles not only creates a layer of distance, but obscures colloquial nuances. The subtitles can only ever be an approximation because you can never understand what’s being communicated like a Japanese speaker can. When people pretend this isn’t the case it makes my head hurt. There’s also the real issue that the dialogue is often adjusted in slight but important ways for the English VAs. You will notice this that in MHA the VA actually say different things in English than the subtitles say in the Japanese version… and the English dialogue is better! The VAs are fine and believe that the general disrespect of English VAs is unfair and unwarranted. They do a tremendous job and really pour their souls into their performances. I honestly don’t even think the criticism of English VAs is about the quality, I think there is a delusion cult that believing enjoying anime characters speaking English puts a curse on their family tree. Their are people hate the English dub of FMAB, but it’s obviously not because it’s bad. It’s because they’re speaking English. That’s weird AF, but it’s a fact of the anime community. Now like I said, that’s fine, but when people insist on watching shows in Japanese (for no good reason), and miss painfully simple and obvious plot points that they would’ve picked up on if the actually understood the dialogue and connected to it in a way that is impossible with subtitles, then it just seems delusional and silly. Watching content in a foreign language and not understanding it is not a superior viewing experience to watching something in your native language and understanding everything. Lastl, live-action and animation are fundamentally different because animated characters don’t actually have voices. Listening another person’s voice coming out of someone’s mouth ruins the immersion, and is just silly. Edward Elric literally doesn’t have a voice, he’s a cartoon. Anything the VA (in any language) says is his voice.

Dyastro
>>116885868

Yeah, I don't understand how you can say that dub is better than sub with your point being "the translation is better"......like fanmade or official......it would never be an exact copy. One just has to get used to how Japanese to english sounds and get better at understanding the nuance

Ranginald Vagel
>>116884606

Still not buying it, you’ve got time travel with no apparent limit, keep using irrefutable proof that you know the future and keep trying till their dumb asses listen

Obsessive Fanatic

Alright noobs, let a long time Homura veteran explain this shit to you. Before the events of the show and the very first timeline Homura lived in Tokyo attending a catholic school. She then received a heart condition that bedrid her in the hospital for 6 months. She was finally discharged on March 16 as seen with the calendar next to her bed. Coincidentally on the same day Homura was discharged, Madoka made her contract with Kyubey. After all the horrible events Homura starts her time loop only being able to reset to the day she discharges and gets out to immediately kill Kyubey before he can meet Madoka. Walpurgisnacht is German for Walpurgis Night or Witching Night, a Christian holiday celebrated on April 30, the same day Walpurgisnacht the witch arrives in Mitakihara City. By the way, thanks to some side material like manga and games we know Homura doesn’t always reset on April 30 as Madoka will sometimes die earlier due to unpredictable timelines. Sometimes she’ll be eaten by a witch, another magical girl kills her or she’ll be run over by Truck-Kun. But for simplicity sake let’s say on average she spends a month and a half in each time loop to always reset on April 30. Gen Urobuchi the creator has confirmed Homura has time looped at least a hundred times. So 45 days X 100 loops = 12.5 years, this makes Homura mentally 26 years old. I hope you’re writing this down, this will be on the test next week.

Fabbrizio Plays

"It’s not confusing at all" GET HIS ASS. Glad one person on the couch watched the episode, lmao

no. 21’s no. 1 simp (edited)

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2023-12-06 21:40:43 Well her goal however is all about Madoka not herself hence --
2023-09-06 02:54:28 Well her goal however is all about Madoka not herself hence --
>>116882748

Well her goal however is all about Madoka not herself hence --

Darren Banks
>>116884606

Then they just get sketched and assume that she's actually plotting on them with Kyoko. Because Kyoko ALWAYS comes in hot as she's not from there and needs the grief seeds. There's also the issue that Homura only cares about Madoka. The others can die as long as she can save Madoka... lol

Davon Thomas

So did Madoka instantly become a witch after defeating walpurgisnacht? Like they address her defeating it much easier in the later timeline but then say well in 10 days the world Is erased. So the world is ruined even when madoka wins? They just got no break defeated one super witch, just for another to take its place

Obsessive Fanatic
>>116881915

I’ve been with Madoka Magica since I was 14 and I am now 22, and I am still finding out new things. This franchise is a rabbit hole/ minefield filled with symbolism and lore.

Obsessive Fanatic (edited)

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2023-09-06 05:15:44 Homura Trivia Time: You may notice that unlike most Magical Girls Homura doesn’t use her own Magical weapon often. Besides time magic Homura’s pretty useless in combat, so to make up for her lack of
2023-09-06 03:14:34 Homura Trivia Time: You may notice that unlike most Magical Girls Homura doesn’t use her own Magical weapon, the shield, often. Besides time magic and her shield being a bag of holding, Homura has zero affinity in combat. So to make up for her shortcomings, Homura learned to to make bombs and raided several Yakuza and military bases for firearms. She trained herself to be proficient in all manner of weapons to make up for her lack of magical powers. She is the most metal magical girl and a one woman army and I love her so much.

Homura Trivia Time: You may notice that unlike most Magical Girls Homura doesn’t use her own Magical weapon, the shield, often. Besides time magic and her shield being a bag of holding, Homura has zero affinity in combat. So to make up for her shortcomings, Homura learned to to make bombs and raided several Yakuza and military bases for firearms. She trained herself to be proficient in all manner of weapons to make up for her lack of magical powers. She is the most metal magical girl and a one woman army and I love her so much.

KeYo

dam its the corn shit all over again lol. "sheera you okay? theres no corn on that plate" rewinds and gets cooked lmao when you gonna learn man

Darren Banks
>>116885868

Femen bouch ou pitit. Se plas ou. Going off about this again in 2023 is cringe. The subs are fine. The dubs are fine. To each their own. When you're reacting you're bound to miss things when trying to make jokes, have conversations and speak about plot points mid watch. It's partially why reactions can be entertaining. Blaming English speakers as if other nations don't also import media in English and provide subtitles for people to use is crazy. As some one that's enjoyed American, English & Australian works of art in other nations including Japan, India & Hong Kong ... kick rocks. People that speak the same language have misunderstandings every day.

Hans Wurst

Puts into perspective when Homura said in episode 4 that she has seen 'so many people die, she lost count'. Homura witnessed the deaths of the same people over and over again, she started treating it like statistics. Like Okabe in Steins;Gate.

Kisuke01

Me seeing Mami dead brings back Steins Gate memories

Omar Roque
>>116881996

Correct. Sheera was right on this debate at the end. Homura was out of school for a long time before she went to school. She didnt go to school leave due to illness, and return. The illness was all before.

Omar Roque

Sheera was right on this debate at the end. Homura was out of school for a long time before she went to school. She didnt go to school leave due to illness, and return. The illness was all before.

Joshua Burns

Roshi noooooo!!!! Getting clapped up in the comments and your own wife on the same video, just trust the sheeragon

Alexander Brown

See I think it may be my fault

flood
>>116885868

All English subs and dubs are dogshit and never properly translate the nuances of the original Japanese. By your logic one should just learn Japanese (which one should) but instead you advocate for English dub, which is even more distant from the original Japanese and intent with shitty voice acting which switches between too fast and slow in order to fit lip flaps which were designed for a different language, by voice actors who can't do anime voices convincingly.

Kisuke01
>>116894375

Basically yeah cause at the end of the day she's gonna just turn into a witch over time or just fall into despair and become a witch

J Man

The Anime doesn't go into it, so non spoiler, but the manga and Gen Urobuchi revealed that Homura went through about 100 time loops to get to the current one. I think they even aged her to 26 years old based off the life she lived, hence why she's so mature.

J Man

If you want more things like Madoka, in terms of JDrama, Gen Urobuchi, the author of Madoka, did Kamen Rider Gaim, which instead of Magical Girls, Kyubey be trying to turn grown guys and girls into Power Rangers, with the same result as Madoka. Also, the KDrama "While You Were Sleeping" does the same Homura time loops as this show.

MrGaldor123

I just love this episode. Crazy how they could fit so, so much into a single episode. This episode recontextualizes the whole show, it's crazy how much you now see differently on a rewatch. Some of my stand-out moments: in episode 2(?), Madoka asks Homura what her wish was. Homura doesn't answer verbally, but just looks intently at Madoka, as if saying "You. I made my wish for you". And in episode 4, after Mami's death, Madoka and Homura have a conversation on that bridge, where Madoka says something like "I'll never forget you Homura, how you saved us!". But, from Homura's perspective, Madoka always forgets her after each reset...

Cody

Homura: HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

J Man
>>116900623

This was a thing he brought over from Kamen Rider Ryuki (he also brought over Magical Girls, Grief Seeds, Contracts, and Labyrinths too). In Ryuki, "Kamen Rider Knight" was the Homura of the show. Later in the series you also find out, "oh that dark and brooding a-hole who keeps telling me to not sign the contract is actually the main character!!! Crazy!!!".

Lupa is Dadi

sheera dont got a big forehead for no reason 💯 slayyyyy 💅 🔥

Fizzy

The irony is the fact that time travelling in this anime is probably the most straight forward out of the many animes that is centre around time travelling thank god sheera persistence prevailed 😭😭😭😭

roshiwig (edited)

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2023-09-06 12:14:43 sheeragan for a reason dummy roshi
2023-09-06 09:52:15 sheeragan for a reason dummy roshi

sheeragan for a reason dummy roshi

Argo2Unitard
>>116898745

Wait, for real? Gaim was the most surreal tokusatsu experience I'd ever had.

Kintama

history will say they were just roommates

Norrin Radd
>>116885868

I don’t say the English dub script is dog shiite. I said it was sometimes better, giving MHA as an example. In fact, I’ve rarely, if ever, thought the English subtitles used in the Japanese dub were better than the writing in the English dub. All the adjustments/changes increase the familiarity and immersion. Imo, for English speakers, watching these shows in English is a better viewing experience and exhibit A are these reaction video in which English watch a show in Japanese and constantly get confused about the simplest points, that would have come across more clearly in their native/only language. I’ve seen it in Bleach reactions, Violet Evergarden reactions, and of course this one to name a few. I’m identifying an obvious problem and offering an obvious solution - watch shows in English and there’ll be less confusion. You should be thanking me. 😉

hokeypokey
>>116898663

I mean they also did announce a new movie that they talked about last ep so think non-anime spoilers are back on the table as spoilers until we know what in that :P

hokeypokey

Bruh I spent 10 minutes thinking there was a post credits scene they missed xD they coulda just rewatched the ep in this time to check who was right hahaha

SigmaMaleDigBick

Sheera was right, like usually lol

Joker416

Gotta love when roshi over complicate something and claps the hell out himself. Sheera actually understood it the 1st time. This was the simpliest form of time travel. Roshi and his L-gan strikes again.

Matrim Hall
>>116898745

I wanna lob Magical Girl Site in there too. Way more gorey tho iirc

BloodMoonGentleWind

They were thinking too deeply but it’s cute lol

Darian
>>116885868

I've almost never had a problem understanding things with subs. And the few times I have, I just rewind it and watch it again. Which can happen even when watching in English. For reactors specifically it might be easier to watch in English to account for the additional distractions of being on camera and trying to entertain but again, that'll just depend on the reactor because lord knows watching shows in English doesn't prevent people from missing stuff. This isn't a "subs or dubs" problem, this is just a media comprehension problem that you've turned into a sub vs. dub war. You're obviously prepared to die on this hill though, so have fun being smug I guess

MDLNubes
>>116894595

On this rewatch with trio,i noticed its also genius, since blicks and bombs don't burn magic/soul gem to use/attack.

Reckless Company

So why doesn't a girl wish for witches not to exist as a wish wouldn't all this sadness be avoided? Since the cat can grant any wish LOL i need to know if its possible

Ougi
>>116938698

Mosst magical girls don't know that they become witches

Drakey

i think someone mentioned it already but a cool fact about this is that Homura spent 12 years looping the same month of time to get to the current one

Jazmyne Mattucci
>>116938698

most magical girls dont know they end up becoming witches plus yknow....theyve already made their wish so itd be too late unless they know beforehand

Norrin Radd

No Darian, we’re completely on the same page! You succinctly stated the exact point I was making - watching in their native tongue will prevent them from missing as much (if anything at all), and thus mitigate the confusion. I was actually trying to make a salient point and give legitimate advice about how to have a better reaction that doesn’t devolve into an argument about nonsense. I specifically criticized the trite sub vs dub debate as irrational and chauvinistic. My point was 100% referring to the superior viewing experience, not which one is better. Who cares! The fact is that even if the Japanese version is better, you’ll still have an easier time following what’s going on in your native tongue, whether you’re from America or Brazil, Germany or China. There’s a relatability and understanding that comes with shared language. That’s not really deniable. This of course is directly correlated to the complexity of the story. You can watch HxH in Japanese (although I even see reactors having a hard time following that show 🤦🏾‍♂️), but watching Psycho Pass in Japanese is a pain in the butt!

IAmABacon
>>116938698

Yeah, and Kyubey's out here targeting young girls; and putting them under stressful situations to get them super emotional; since that's how they get power.. They might not even think of that idea even if they were clear-headed.

Kinkaz
>>116885868

Seems like there really isn't much of a difference from what I've experienced. It's a different language, if they couldn't make it make sense in the sub, it most likely won't be much different in the dub. Unless you get a different team to do it & at that point that's more about different groups' ability to properly translate & even then there are still likely to be problems. Some stuff is just not going to make sense because of cultural & language differences & at best, you'll still have to change it to be something different anyway & it wouldn't make much difference. Like with those scenes with Mako in Kill la Kill, as a minor example. The puns in those scenes that makes sense in japanese are completely lost & there's no way that I know of to translate those jokes to english because of how different our languages are. If this is about the discussion they had in the end, I don't think it's the subs that were the problem, I think they just misinterpreted or forgot exactly what happened (which is not a dub vs. sub problem). I don't know any japanese beyond simple words & I understood it just fine. Like, they just had to rewatch the scenes & they got it, so it's not like the subs were even that bad if re-reading them helped solve the issue.

Coalire

They played the opening at the end of the episode because the lyrics are from Homuras perspective (and they fit this episode particularly well). Also, Sheera was right about the scenes from the opening actually being from other timelines.

Ranginald Vagel
>>116938698

Probably why Kyubey hides that inconvenient truth about magical girls. On the other hand this is a logical paradox since the act of getting that wish granted will turn the wisher into a magical girl who will inevitably turn into a witch due to lack of other witches to get seeds from.

scribbled

I'm at about 30:50 and need to sleep. Does Sheera get Roshi to realize he was wrong?

flood
>>116938698

Kyubey can't grant any wish as it is actually the magical girl's power which realises the wish, meaning how great the wish can be depends upon how great their power is.

flood
>>116885868

You didn't say the English dub script is dogshit, but they always are, just like subs. The obvious solution is learning Japanese if you really care about Japanese art.

J Man
>>116934738

Can't blame them. That's the wonky part about time loops

I VisiBomb I

this was actually hilarious, it was 5AM and i was laughing my ass off at the end, thank you!

Norrin Radd
>>116885868

No Darian, we’re completely on the same page! You succinctly stated the exact point I was making - watching in their native tongue will prevent them from missing as much (if anything at all), and thus mitigate the confusion. I was actually trying to make a salient point and give legitimate advice about how to have a better reaction that doesn’t devolve into an argument about nonsense. I specifically criticized the trite sub vs dub debate as irrational and chauvinistic. My point was 100% referring to the superior viewing experience, not which one is better. Who cares! The fact is that even if the Japanese version is better, you’ll still have an easier time following what’s going on in your native tongue, whether you’re from America or Brazil, Germany or China. There’s a relatability and understanding that comes with shared language. That’s not really deniable. This of course is directly correlated to the complexity of the story. You can watch HxH in Japanese (although I even see reactors having a hard time following that show 🤦🏾‍♂️), but watching Psycho Pass in Japanese is a pain in the butt!

JS S
>>116883713

I believe it isn’t a month exactly as have seen some people say roughly 45 days, so that would equal about 12.5 years

Marc Senécal
>>116885868

"you should be thanking me" Holy fuck that's such a pathetic thing to say hahahaha. Why would ANYONE thank you? Joke of the week over here...

Da$H IX

Oh man, the end part was so funny LMAO

Norrin Radd
>>116885868

I never make no excuses! I just be droppin pure jewels with my deuces! ✌🏾

ANGELO TREVINO

that ending was 10/10, Sheera Said what she said! But the true villian was Lupa plotting seeds of destruction

JayPack

Yoooo that end conversation is too ridiculous xD

Gabriel Shepherd

are they doing Madoka's series-sequel movie Rebellion after this? genuine question, I'm new here

GrImProphecy
>>117029104

They haven't said yes/no but they usually watch canon movies, they watched all the kizumonogatari movies when they were going through the monogatari series.

Alexis Sullivan

Damn i usually be with Sheera but I was on Team Roshi this one time and I got clapped with him cuz I definitely thought Homura was in the hospital after meeting them.

Justice

I'm pretty sure Sheera's correct

Patrone07 (edited)

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2023-09-09 19:44:02 She using her time magic to go back in time essential created a different timeline it's not forcing her she chooses to do it and she already tried to tell them but they didn't listen yal was talking so you didn't catch that
2023-09-09 17:41:37 She using her time magic to go back in time essential creating a different timeline it's not forcing her she chooses to do it and she already tried to tell them but they didn't listen yal was talking so you didn't catch that

She using her time magic to go back in time essential creating a different timeline it's not forcing her she chooses to do it and she already tried to tell them but they didn't listen yal was talking so you didn't catch that

Eric Avila

so ive read all the translated manga that has been released, the mangas follow either the same group of girls in the anime or follow other magical girls in there adventures and if and when Houmura shows up its showed to us that these stories and adventures take place in other branching alternate timelines. we find out in the different series of manga that she's been doing this to what adds up to a few years or something well over 10.

Vlad the Third

Kyuubei never outright lies. He only lies by omission. He is very forthcoming and truthful the instant they ask.

Patrick Rowland
>>117254049

specifically it was stated by the author she went through and i quote 50 to 100 loops

Didier

That exchange at the end was actually interesting. It's obvious Roshi is a proud man, so it's quite noble of him to sincerely apologize to his wife in front of a camera.

fadil

Love the way roshi cooking

Jan the Man

Some things to note that aren't explained in the show: Homura's ONLY magical ability is time stopping. She can time travel at will only AFTER the sand in the timer of her shield resets (not sure how long it takes, but it sends her back by exactly one month). Also, her weapons are not generated by magic like Mami's or Madoka's are, she has to tediously raid places to build up her arsenal every single timeline.

Nabi

oh god, this is his most self clap moment ever lmao, believe in Sheeragan

Jinkingu

lmaoooooo

Pedro Barrera

I love this kind of end discussions 😂😂