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Mushoku Tensei 2x6 (Patreon)

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Raphtalia is that you?

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Cheesecake

Shield Hero Flashbacks were strong this ep

Trey

Bro I also got a waaave of shield hero vibes from this episode 💀

jordanp63x2

FINALLY RAHHhHHHHHH I NEED TO ABSORB SOME CONTENT!!!

Lyon

Ong bro, ik this anime wild but how casually they randomly was like "tryna go buy a slave after school" threw me all the way off. I swear they never established this unless I forgot or something

Riley
>>115230355

They sort of tried to establish it in season 1 when Paul was rescuing the villagers that got displaced in the mana incident. Some of them had been sold into slavery which is one of the reasons they had to steal them back. Even some of the beast women maids the Greyrats had were slaves that were legally bought. I feel the novels tend to explain these things better, but the anime really does try without having to openly say these things to you.

FreshxEli Tv

The Fact Rudy is Questioning if he is gay / bi actually is funny Mans Just Want To Get Hard Once by Any Means necessary😂😂😂

Denickart

Dwarftalia

tobi tobi

Baki today or nah?

Ougi

"Wanna go shopping for a slave after school?" "Aight" the casualness of this whole shit had me dying

DevilMayCarter

Raphtalia? You wish you were best girl. But seriously, Rudy must think he's in ReZero the way he's mistaken identities.

Hakurei Oni
>>115230355

I mean he's lived in this world for 16ish years already so he's already desensitized to things like slavery considering how much he's seen it.

William kimura

Keep in mind, Rudeus was an absalute piece of shit in his previous life. So it's not insanely ubelivable for his lack of morals.

XVIII

I've heard the LN goes into Rudeus's distaste for slavery. It makes him uncomfortable.

Brailyn Mar

To be fair, hes been alive in this new world for like 15 years at this point. I’m sure he’s desensitized to a lot of stuff we’d all be disgusted by at this point in his new life.

Aniki Pft

I would like to hope they don't elude to anything weird with the slave girl bruh. I fw Rudy but his track record is concerning a lil bit

Aniki Pft
>>115231927

Rudy in his previous life made alot of bad decisions, some weirder than most. But he wasn't a piece of shit/asshole. I don't see the lack of morals since he's genuinely been decent in his new life.

Madema

The background music certainly didn't help, and there's two reasons Rudeus seems rather nonchalant about the whole ordeal: 1: The anime (obviously) cuts out monologue and other context, as not everything can be shown, whether for a lack of time, or there being no good way to do it. 2: The established parts of slavery were the attacks on the Doldia village in Season 1, and Paul trying to save people that had been enslaved following the displacement. The anime skipped mention of the existence of slave markets here and there around the world, though they're mostly kinda off to the side from the actual markets, aside from here in the Three Magic Nations, which support it pretty openly.

Alex

So it's now we want to acknowledge that Rudy comes from modern times not last season when he fucked Eris?? The guy has always been the worst part of this otherwise great show

Angelo (edited)

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2023-08-15 01:20:25 Well i mean rudeus has been around for a few years now he has been travelling for 5 years and seen slaves like in season 1 he saw slaves. For example. Thats why rudeus is more used to it now rudeus has accepted that its part of the norm and that doing anything about it would be too hard of a task.
2023-08-14 23:18:05 Well i mean rudeus has been around for a few years now he has been travelling for 5 years and seen slaves like in season 1 he saw slaves. For example. Thats why rudeus is more used to it now rudeus has accepted that its part of the norm and that doing anything about it would be too hard of a task. I mean rudy is from his previous life but by now he has travelled around done so much he basically overshadowed his previous life where he was a shut in.

Well i mean rudeus has been around for a few years now he has been travelling for 5 years and seen slaves like in season 1 he saw slaves. For example. Thats why rudeus is more used to it now rudeus has accepted that its part of the norm and that doing anything about it would be too hard of a task. I mean rudy is from his previous life but by now he has travelled around done so much he basically overshadowed his previous life where he was a shut in.

Grant Beaudette

Movies haven't been invented yet, so the typical date is dinner and go buy a person.

Kintama

It's weird because it doesn't seem like rudeus would be the type to be ok with slavery. Back in doldia, he was upset at gallus taking slaves but now he's participating in the slave market just for figurines. It seems a bit inconsistent. At very least, if ruijerd was here, he wouldn't let it slide. Overall tho, it was a decent episode and I'm really glad they cut out rudys sus dialogue.

Ghost_Dog97
>>115231853

it's funny you say that because there was a short side-story in the manga where he and subaru meet up

Tyrese Marshall
>>115233169

Rudy has done noncey shit, but never to that degree and has been in that world for quite a while now anyways

Kintama
>>115230355

fr, them mfs were treating it like extra curricular activities

Devin B

I wouldn't be surprised if there were actually people like Zanoba that loves their figurines to that extreme

danial javady
>>115233923

"Overall tho, it was a decent episode and I'm really glad they cut out rudys sus dialogue. " Why

Ginger Dwarf

I prefer this to the usual Isekai slavery stuff. Where they act disgusted, denounce it publically then take one anyway. He's obviously disgusted by it, but it's like. He's just one guy, he can't just cause a sudden slave uprising around the entire world.

Erd'na

For why Sylphie doesn't reveal herself to Rudy. It's her own insecurity plays a part to it. I'm not sure about the time but it's 5 years in Eris household and 3 years as an adventurer. So she is afraid that Rudy doesn't remember her.

metronxtdoorr

One thing I love about this series especially, is how it feels like we’re actually tagging along. Seeing Rudeus grow and change, including the world around him. In my opinion, this is the best isekai

Weiss Schnee

Rudeus isn't acting weird about slave shopping because he's been in the world for 15 years. He's used to the culture at this point.

Stanley
>>115234729

Nigga you wild for that go to bed and try again tomorrow

Hasnain Khan

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Franklin wasn't getting away with 35mil scott free

Roshi's point about Rudy coming from modern times and just being chill with slavery is super interesting to me. Because even if you make the argument that he's simply learned to adapt to his environment and is acclimatised to the social norms, he has not only accepted it without hesitation (weird), but PARTICIPATING in it simply morally disgraceful. But then this is the nigga that stole his teachers underwear to worship.

Cameron Robinson
>>115233923

My only thought on this is that in the Doldis village, they were stealing people to sell them into slavery, an active action which was legal, assuming kidnapping was illegal, but where Rudy’s is now slavery is illegal and these people are already slaves (maybe even legally) so him “rescuing” them would be illegal and cause problems for his current objectives. I don’t agree with his actions and think they may be more ways to teach Zenoba, but just some thoughts

Franklin wasn't getting away with 35mil scott free
>>115235155

He was a grown man in his 40s(?) before, is 15 years all it takes? But then bro was a neet so he knew no type of life outside of his room. I guess it makes more sense for him to accept it easier then people that had lives. Still, one thing to accept it, a whole other thing to participate in it. And then his motivation for doing it isn't even altruistic, it's just pure degeneracy this nigga is trash

Panda

Im convinced Raphtalia and that part of shield hero was based on this.

Ghost_Troupe
>>115236176

No different than people today being perfectly ok with locking human beings in cages like animals with rapists and murderers, knowing that the vast majority of those people will end up being victimized or killed. And we put millions of people in prison. I'd take a few years of regulated slavery over prison any day.

Franklin wasn't getting away with 35mil scott free
>>115234391

Cool but he can definitely enrich a slaver to be able to keep doing it? Foolishness, no one is saying he should start a revolution but is better to be a part of the system? It doesn't matter that he feels guilty enough to scrape some sympathy together if he still bought a slave

Ginger Dwarf
>>115234391

Yeah, he's not a shining light of moral perfection if you have been paying attention to any of this series. xD

Angelo
>>115235155

I mean yeah if you travel around the world and slavery legal you gonna see it multiple times. rudeus has been traveling for 5 years its think its fair

Panda
>>115231927

Yeah man, fuck that fat guy who got sexually assulted and posted up in front of his school. Him hating people and having a twisted outlook is totally not understandable at all! /s

Luis Rodriguez

The Slave Trader: ooh sorrywe don't get Dwarves in here normally, let alone 5 year olds..... Slave Trader 5 sec later: hey we got this 6 year old dwarf, would that work for you

Franklin wasn't getting away with 35mil scott free
>>115236176

Complete false equivalence and highly stupid. Are saving that people who commit heinous crimes should be left to roam free? The system isn't perfect at all, but crime is a choice, being enslaved isn't. Who is 'WE'? Because I have nothing to do with any of that. Talk to your local governor and come up with better solutions, when was the last time you put someone in prison?

Gregery stunt double

Raphtalia is that you? Raphtalia: No, it's not me.

Panda
>>115231927

In reality tho rudy isn't portrayed to be a fan of slavery, he's shown discomfort with it before. This show doesn't do instant switches, think of ruijerd and the superd. Rudy knows fully well from that, that he can't abolish slavery by himself in an instant, but the dude can help who he can help.

Seraph_Dalgon_
>>115235155

So you'd instead have him leave her to die in a cage? Oh no, she now has to learn to make figurines while being clothed, fed, learn magic, and be taken care of, such degeneracy, such tragedy.

Panda
>>115236176

I feel it with participating in it, but i also feel the argument that it doesn't stop happening because you pretend it doesn't exist. Fact is they are all pretty well off, they can afford to support a slave. That specific girl probably would have had a lot worse life w/o them. I don't know if you can just buy a slave and set them free or how the legality of that shit works in this world, but honestly if zanoba wanted to train someone to work for him. I would rather it be a slave than some random kid who would be fine in life regardless, the chances between the two of them for survival are vastly differnt. I would ideally like them to be free too once you yoink them out of that situation but like i said before idk if that works like that there.

nemui
>>115236176

You are getting so worked up just because it was described as slavery. After they bought her, did they do anything inappropriate to her or treat her like a literal slave? The answer is no, they bought her to get manpower so that he can accomplish his dream to make a figure, and saying that participating in it is simply morally disgraceful is just rich when they literally free her from the cage and gave a proper clothes, meals, and a place to live.

Jose silva

sometimes you just get garbage characters like him

KeYo

you know there is actually people who nut on figurines....its a whole fetish lol. dont ask me how i know >.>

Franklin wasn't getting away with 35mil scott free
>>115236176

'Participating in slavery is OK if you're doing it to help your family make statues that he can fuck' 'Participating in slavery is OK if we pretend she's still not a slave' 'Participating in slavery is OK even if you're sponsoring slavers to continue their work' 'Participating in slavery is OK so long as we're buying lolis'

Fernando Perez

Tbh I don’t think it would make any sense for Rudeus to try freeing all those slaves. All it would do is get him thrown in jail since he has no backup and the slaves wouldn’t have anywhere to go anyway. Most he can do is at least give one of them a better life. It was a bit off-putting how he seemed relatively chill with the whole thing, but he probably sees it as a “Not my priority and nothing I can do about it anyway. Might as well just accept it.” That and he’s been living here for a while so he’s probably used to it by now.

L.C.

One thing I love about mushoku tensei is they hit certain subjects that get touchy with people instead of locking it away as if it was never a reality or something that happened to begin with. Let's just make another story where everything is the same happy go lucky bullshit and the author and studio said nah.

GastricSalmon36

mann all these comments are either bashing or defending rudy am i the only one who just enjoyed the episode?

Panda
>>115236176

"Watching someone die in someone elses abusive hands keeps your hands clean" "Pretending these people dont exist stops them from dying or having horrible experiences" "Not owning a slave while you walk in buildings,towns, eat food, shit in toilets, all made by slaves counts as non participation"

Erd'na
>>115233923

There is a big difference free a individual being kidnap for slavery versus someone who became a slave due to being unable to pay your debts.

Franklin wasn't getting away with 35mil scott free
>>115236176

It's about the principle, by participating in it he condones it, enriching a slaver makes him no better. The 99.9% of those slaves aren't getting a happy ending, it's straight suffering every day. Don't imagine you'll somehow win the jackpot and come upon a non violent/ non deviant master. We will continue to see the cute and quirky side of isekai slavery and yall will be fooled into thinking what is happening is A OK. Rudy has the means and power to deviate from the system he chooses to participate in. He has the magical ability, and the intelligence to break that girl out from her bonds incognito, but he chooses not to because its inconvenient. This nigga is trash

Seraph_Dalgon_
>>115236176

"being enslaved isn't", didn't they literally say that her family sold themselves into slavery to pay off their debts? All your arguments essentially center around Rudy being some kind of deciding factor in this but he's not, Slavers gonna get their coin one way or the other regardless of whether it comes from him or not. Buying is arguably better than leaving her to die or get bought by someone objectively worse. Also, I know you ain't saying all this while using a device most likely built by some child in a labor camp.

Asante Upshur-Benson

Rudy comes from modern times but unfortunately these are ancient times in a different world and there’s nothing he can do to abolish slavery. If he tried to play hero, there’s still a lotta niggas that can smoke him and most of the slaves are stuck in the mentality of being one. So he can only do this sort of kindness for that little girl.

Eric martinez

Rudy's gonna pass the age of his past life and people are still gonna compare the two 💀💀

Kintama
>>115233923

people in debt don't deserve slavery either, nigga she's 6 😭

L.C.

Yeah so the MC isn't supposed to adapt to the messed up world that he lives in after he got isekai'd over in it. Let's just act like the MC is a shonen MC and will fix all the problems immediately and go back to school life. Its not as if he didn't see an abundance of fucked up shit all throughout season 1 and so far in season 2. Its amazing how people turn off their brains when a touchy subject comes up. Like the fuck are you talking about

Franklin wasn't getting away with 35mil scott free
>>115236176

You think that girls family selling her into slavery makes any of it better? Are you dumb? That's arguably even worse. How much of a say did that little girl have in that decision? Ah yes the 'it's OK to participate in something that's going to happen anyway' is such a morally bankrupt way of thinking it's truly sad. 'It's all OK because it's going to happen anyway, so let me make sure I do my part to make more of it' LMAO

Kintama
>>115233923

i get where you're coming from but the way I see it, legal or illegal you should do the right thing anyway. If murder was legal it wouldn't make it right. I feel like rudy could rescue them without leaving a trace but there's also the issue of where to actually send them after rescue. Tbh I was just surprised that he didn't seem to think anything of it. He didn't have any thoughts about it

Joshua Burns

Just a little side note from me dainty doesn’t mean soft it just means that he thinks Fitz has small hands for a dude

Erd'na
>>115236176

If you don't like what you see you can simply not watch it. Personally i think it's great that the story showcase this stuff. Not because i condone it but rather to show that the characters and the world they live in is not white or black. You dislike what happen because Rudy participated in slave business? You dislike it because you connote slave as people that got their freedoms taken away against their will. But as the show tells you Julie became a slave because of debts. I simply akin this to someone who goes to prison for not paying their debts.

Erd'na
>>115233923

Yes, she's six. You should be mad at her family. They are probably the ones who incurred the debt. Plus you cannot put our own rules and morals into another world rules and morals. If enormous debt is grounds for slavery then that's the norm.

Matt
>>115233923

Just not any thoughts in the anime vs LN. Most of the anime was nonverbal discomfort. I thought the controversy of this episode would have been him thinking of murking Julie.

Harrison Crandall

If I remember correctly, in the book he did contemplate trying to dismantle the system before deciding against it as he felt he wasn't capable of that and attempting to do so would only make things worse. remember there is a reason plenty of isekais use slaves as an easy way to solve an issue or as a straight up plot point. they copied it from this show. the book at least does it much better than other isekais. plus rudy only does it because its not for him anyways it's zenobas slave not his. regardless of whether or not he supports it or not it IS technically a possible solution to the problem they were having and honestly kinda realistic, if you can't do t yourself the only real option is to get someone for you to do it for you. though ideally this someone is doing it not because they are a slave, this is another world. a world where slavery is not only common place, but the industry standard. so it's not just a manner of conforming to another world but also just a plain recognition that even in the real world there are some things you cannot change. the best you can do is attempt to guide the flow... spoiler warning SPOILER WARNING ...and zenoba comes from a particularly dangerous place where if rudy didn't get him one it was likely he would have ended up just doing it himself and having a much worse outcome for not only zenoba whom rudy cares about but whomever zenoba chooses so instead he just decided to try to guide things himself instead of abandoning what he viewed as a good enough person to not deserve like idk bad stuff happening SPOILER WARNING spoiler warning

OnePerson
>>115239994

I think it's more of him going out of his way for it that's throwing people off myself included. It's not shocking he's been desensitized to it he literally watched a slave child get murdered and freed a couple it's just that normally he stays in his own lane about those type of things that he's not fond of. Like how early on he hated watching people die, now he's decensitized to it but he doesn't go out of his way to kill people on the daily. It's just weird that all it took was a casual suggestion for him to go into the bad parts of the world he normally avoides.

Franklin wasn't getting away with 35mil scott free
>>115236176

Are you dumb? Or do you really think that because I don't like an aspect of a wider whole I just have to stop consuming it? I can critique a character, their motivations and their actions and still enjoy the show that they're in, or I am supposed to like everything completely? I've already replied to that same point above. Julie is a child. Which means her parents forced her into this life because they were gutter trash gaurdians, that doesn't make it better, its just a different kind of awful. Stop pretending like she can decide to stop being a slave, or like she had much of a choice in becoming one

Valentino Garay
>>115237129

You are correct Is not plagiarism, the author of shield hero just expand the idea based on this encounter as inspiration to build a new story with characters having this type of relation

Knightmares
>>115234391

@Gyasi or would you rather having him letting that girl live miserably. I think that Rudeus was confident that he could give a better life to whatever slave he would come across. The real problem with slavery is that they don't get treated as human. If a few penny is enough to give someone human rights, why roasting him for doing so.

nemui
>>115236176

I like how he's so narrow-minded and justifies his reasons with horrible interpretations. Do you only watch a slice-of-life anime or something? you are acting as if you've never watched someone get killed or terrible things happened in anime.

Panda
>>115237129

i wouldn't think it was, i don't see anything wrong with taking inspiration.

Devin B

I can see why some people don't rock with Rudy for getting a slave or seeming like he doesn't care too much about slavery but it's not like he got Julie for any malicious reasons. Slavery is bad no questions about it but was it wrong for Rudy to get Julie and give her a better life than what she was previously dealing with?

Erd'na
>>115236176

I think the problem is that you want the character to act certain way because you think that is right thing to do because of your own moral and values. You need to recognize that this world has it's set of rules. Slavery exist and the world that Rudy is in accept it as a norm. If you find it disgusted that Rudy accept slaves. You simply ignore the fact that Greyrat Household Rudy stayed is full of beastmen slaves because Eris grandfather is infatuated with them.

nemui
>>115236176

Of course you interpreted the way you wanted to even though I’ve only asked and stated the way you overreacting the situation. I like how you constantly call people dumb even though you are trying your very best to explain your side. I guess the point you making is he shouldn’t have done anything and just free the slaves as much as possible with no reason just because he needs to be righteous.

Erd'na
>>115239696

Even in the modern world slavery still exist. That's why human trafficking still happens.

Seraph_Dalgon_
>>115236176

@Gyasi Arguably, yes, it is better to buy her. Cuz the only other options are far too unfeasible for Rudy to do anything about without making the world his enemy. I'd much prefer for him to bite the bullet and buy a slave that he'd treat well than to go about his days completely avoiding it cuz "my morals". Will this solve the problem, no, but it sure as hell beats letting her die in a cage. You don't have to like it, I don't expect you to but acting like Rudeus is the worst person ever cuz he made the best decision in that lose-lose situation is just dumb. He has no need of a slave and would most likely prefer to keep it that way, but when faced with having to go through with it, he'd buy and help em (provided they still got the will to keep going themselves).

Erd'na
>>115236176

@nemui i think that what he wants is rudy to fight against the world because slavery is bad. Regardless how powerful Rudy is, one person cannot defeat the world. It's a numbers game.

Philbo
>>115243593

thats what im saying. and he even stopped that slave owner from hitting julie. like for me he doenst need to physically and verbally express to show that he dislikes slavery lol. the small gestures is enough me. he sympathized with her, is feeding her, giving her clothes and a place to stay. teaching her spells and also supervising the sessions with bro as well. like there shouldnt be any controversy over this. "oh but she is there to help make dolls for zenoba to sexually use." WHO FUCKING Cares there is nothing malicious happening to her and i doubt she is going to be present during those acts as well.

Jalani Abdul-Aziz

Happy birthday Sheera!!!!! Hope you had a great day and thanks for all the laughs! My birthday is tmrw so we’re almost bday twins lol.

arr f

LOL the funny thing is I wasn't even that worried about this episode being as controversial as it currently is... because im too busy worrying about the reactions to next episode... genuinely understand ppl dropping after next week. Rudy hits new low.

Philbo
>>115246405

i really wanna read what you are talking about tbh lol

Daniel Robb
>>115246405

Man. This is sad to hear. Idk if I'd even call this show controversial, moreso disappointing.

Moonbane8

y'all do know slavery is a bigger and more profitable institution now than it was in the past right?

Erd'na
>>115246405

I don't how far this studio can animate the story. I wonder how people are going to react when Rudeus get his own family. People might get mad when Rudy does something else. If you don't know the story is done and had full life.

Taylor Moon

Alot of people projecting their savior ideals into this fictional world where they want Rudy to be jesus and free all the slaves.. As for me I enjoy having a character like this, it's just how the world is and in no way does him going shonen MC savior freeing all the slaves do him any good whatsoever.. It's the same energy as morons on the internet saying "If I was born 200 years in the past I wouldn't own a slave I'd do the right thing.." bitch... back then that wasn't seen as the "WRONG" thing by the vast majority of people that's just how it was, same as in fantasy worlds that's just How it is..

Erd'na
>>115248488

Exactly. I like Mushoku Tensei because there is a sense of realism to it. I know it's a fantasy world but realism in a sense that characters are flawed like real people. How many isekai we have where MC is unbeatable and beacon of good? That's why we have trope generic isekai. There are people who dislike Superman because he is a boyscout. A symbol of what a person should be but it's very unrealistic. And people like me who gravitate more to Batman who despite his good intentions struggles with his inner demons. It's laughable that people get riled up on slavery. If they feel strongly about it why you do something about it? Do you realize that slavery still exist now. There are people still being trafficked to this day.

DjCve (edited)

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2023-08-15 06:01:06 A little insight from a novel reader, you have to keep in mind, this is not the first time that Rudeus has witnessed slavery, if you remember when they were in the Milis continent and ran into Paul and Norn, Paul said that many people teleported were enslaved and they (Pauls rescue squad) were stealing slaves, which was highly illegal in that country but through a loophole, they managed, and unfortunately it is very common for this world, some cities even depend on it for their economy, basically anyone with a debt that they can't pay can very easily end up a slave in this world. Some are kidnapped and sold off to nobility, for example, the Doldia people aka. beast people are frequently bought up by a certain Asuran noble family with a name of a color and a rodent (aka. Greyrats, if you remember Eris' family and their maids) while some maybe get into dept and sell themselves to pay it, or in Julies case, the whole family goes into slavery to pay off that dept but between a child with no skills and two skilled dwarf artisans, Julie just got left behind while her parents were bought, hence the loneliness and despair... but everything will be okay now with Master Zanoba and Grandmaster Rudeus looking out for her <3
2023-08-15 03:59:07 A little insight from a novel reader, you have to keep in mind, this is not the first time that Rudeus has witnessed slavery, if you remember when they were in the Milis continent and ran into Paul and Norn, Paul said that many people teleported were enslaved and they (Pauls rescue squad) were stealing slaves, which was highly illegal in that country but through a loophole, they managed, and unfortunately it is very common for this world, some cities even depend on it for their economy, basically anyone with a debt that they can't pay can very easily end up a slave in this world. Some are kidnapped and sold off to nobility, for example, the Doldia people aka. beast people are frequently bought up by a certain Asuran noble family with a name of a color and a rodent (aka. Greyrats, if you remember Eris' family and their maids) while some maybe get into dept and sell themselves to pay it, or in Julies case, the whole family goes into slavery to pay off that dept but between a child with no skills and two skilled dwarf artisans, Julie just got left behind while her parents were bought, hence the loneliness and despair... but everything will be okay now with Master Zanoba and Grandmaster Rudeus looking out for her <3

A little insight from a novel reader, you have to keep in mind, this is not the first time that Rudeus has witnessed slavery, if you remember when they were in the Milis continent and ran into Paul and Norn, Paul said that many people teleported were enslaved and they (Pauls rescue squad) were stealing slaves, which was highly illegal in that country but through a loophole, they managed, and unfortunately it is very common for this world, some cities even depend on it for their economy, basically anyone with a debt that they can't pay can very easily end up a slave in this world. Some are kidnapped and sold off to nobility, for example, the Doldia people aka. beast people are frequently bought up by a certain Asuran noble family with a name of a color and a rodent (aka. Greyrats, if you remember Eris' family and their maids) while some maybe get into dept and sell themselves to pay it, or in Julies case, the whole family goes into slavery to pay off that dept but between a child with no skills and two skilled dwarf artisans, Julie just got left behind while her parents were bought, hence the loneliness and despair... but everything will be okay now with Master Zanoba and Grandmaster Rudeus looking out for her <3

Ethan Galarza

Bro they’re leaving out so many funny interactions that everything just feels bland

Kintama
>>115233923

"you cannot put our own rules and morals into another world" ...yes I can. Just because something's the norm doesn't mean you have to accept it or think it's correct. Rudy can always strive for something better and it says something about his character when he doesn't. Rudy himself wanted to take away the curse of laplace even though hating the superdia tribe was the norm of the entire world

Argo2Unitard

My only exposure to this series is through these comments sections and I gotta say, I hate it more and more every time lol.

Erd'na
>>115234719

I stand corrected. I thought Rudy was in household until 12 years old. Misremembering that was Eris age. My point still "kinda" stands. Sylphie and Rudeus has been apart for a long period of time. And Sylphie personality plays a part why she has not reveal to Rudy.

Fakhrul Irfan
>>115233923

they became slave because of debt but doldia got raided and forced to be slave

Joel

What’s up with half of these comments having a stick up their ass 😭 anime cut LN details like Rudy’s hesitation and inner monologue y’all can’t expect anime onlys to not initially be put off

SigmaMaleDigBick

If you were to describe Sylphy, you would definitely say shes one of the "good guys". And she suggests getting a slave. That's what clues you in on how regular people native to this world see slavery. It's just normal. I think it's fine for Rudy not to actively go against it. The fuck can he do about it alone?

Fizzy
>>115233169

Bro Rudy is clearly way past that shit now lol you forgetting his whole character arc last season and this season to

Ledish
>>115257453

Yeah, he could probably kill the people running the slave market and free the slaves there, but there's really nowhere to go after that, and the freed slaves would be re-captured or killed fairly quickly. Rudy and anyone related to or friendly with him would risk being expelled from the school (since they even warned him to mind how he talks and such, as he'd reflect the school reputation). More importantly, he would be branded as a wanted criminal and hunted down, all for doing something like a 0.01% difference in a system which is both legal and socially accepted. If he DID manage to make any sort of difference and avoid legal ramifications, some noble with large investments in slave trade would likely hire a higher-ranking swordsman or assassin to go after him (which could also put his family in danger). Anyone who thinks Rudy should be acting against slavery should remember how Paul in season one had to set up an entire secret underground railroad type of deal (and act as a criminal gang) just to rescue people who had been sold into slavery after the teleporter incident.

Fizzy

you shouldnt really be shocked about this considering the fact that a lot of quote on quote "things" that are deemed as weird in our world are considered normal in this world things such as incest are apparent if i am not mistaken, or the age of married is around 15 years old if not younger i might be wrong on that one someone correct me if that the case

Angelo
>>115236176

@Gyasi What are you on about this has nothing to do with participating slavery or loli's or anything you talking a bunch of nonsense. She is young and a child for the purpose of learning magic, not because loli needs to be bought. Also yes participating in slavery to save A LIFE is not taht bad julie was skinny to the bone either she gets taken by rudeus or she likely dies. Priorities my guy priorities rudeus does not have time to play the morale police everytime when it comes to this world where people can just walk in to you and kill you if they want. He saved her life and thats what matters he is teaching her magic incantationless, providing her with food, giving her a job that isn't dangerous and something she can be good at and make a living of eventually. he is providing her with the resources that she can survive even if she were to stop making figurines these things can help her survive.

Angelo
>>115243593

@Devin B Yeah he he didn't get julie for any malicious intent, just helping out zanoba while also giving julie the resources she needs to survive and sort of a simple safe job its all about priorities here julie was basically skinny to the bone. Or at least she is described as very skinny in the LN if rudeus doesn't buy her she is likely gonna die. But as rudeus said he doesn't like forcing things upon people which is why he talking to her and asking her if she wnats to live rather then just throw money at the slave market and heading out. I feel like the prioirity should be one live is saved rudeus can't save em all he is not clark ken he is not superman. For some reason people want rudeus to be the savior of all time when this story is about rudeus trying to to get the best out of this second life for him and his people that is his main focus. He doesn't have influence like that and he can't change the system overnight nor the power which rudeus comments on in the LN and it would be dangerous to do so since nobles and stuff partake in slave market so trying to stop it is actively dangerous and not really good idea. Julie learning incantationless magic which is rare can get her places like the academy for example they thought rudeus was great for his incantationless magic if julie wanted too she could even enter the academy someday, learning magic in general is helpful. Rudeus teaching her languages is too rudeus is making her somebody that can help them but also somebody at the same time that can possibly get around if they were ever need to do so. especially with rudeus having ran in to orsted and nearly being killed by just a casual conversation you wanna be careful and rudeus definitely likes to avoid trouble that can endanger the life he has.

joshua rosario

brush over slavery and then end up adopting a baby with his school family....Rudy: Yes

Aniki Pft
>>115233169

@Fizzy I'm not forgetting anything lmao. I know he's gone through character development, but if you've read the LN you would know he still says very sus ass shit.

CatchThisNut
>>115235155

'Pure degeneracy' says the guy who commented about Sylphie - early teenage years- not being able to 'throw it back' 💀

Anonymous

bro they want on a damn slave date this is crazy

Vincent S Deluca

Yeah Zanoba ripped his little brothers head off when he was 2 cause he didnt know how strong he was, thats why they called him the decapitator Prince in S1

Devin B
>>115261088

Nah you're pretty much right, in this world you're considered an adult at 15. That's why Eris hooked up with Rudy because she just turned 15 and she told Rudy early on when they were adults they could do stuff like that, even though Rudy was 14 at the time.

WeavyBoo

It's weird bc I remember him being really uncomfortable in the light novels with the slave thing 🤔

WeavyBoo
>>115246405

Wait wtf happens next episode? I've read the novels yet I don't remember..?

arr f
>>115246405

He kidnaps beastgirls and sexually assaults both of them while they are tied up. I can make a plausible excuse for every single Rudy action in the novels except this one. This one is just ... unexcusable.

Devin B
>>115261088

For some reason I thought he was just a year younger than Eris

Umbra_Nex
>>115279117

If you look at his face when they are walking by some, you can see that he is. Edit: its subtle so easy to miss, especially if you read subtitles!

Umbra_Nex

Rudy confusion is so funny xD

Jeremy

Yknow as someone who read the novels way before this ever aired, it’s really unfortunate how much context they leave out. It really stands out in this ep where they take like no time to explain how Rudy is feeling about slaves. There’s lots of other details they’re just not explaining too.

Jourdan

Fun fact: The reason Zanoba is imamate with his figures is that on his wedding night (he was married to a princess when he was a teenager) when they were intimate he killed her due to his super strength. So now he prefers stone figures because they are not as fragile.

lyssa

Damn the salt is high in this comment section

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2023-08-16 20:10:40 Rudy being from our world and going to a slave market like its best buy or some shit is wild lol.
2023-08-16 18:07:46 Rudy being from our world and going to a slave market like its best buy or some shit is wild lol. At least he seems more remorseful than some other Isekai where they guy seemed pretty chill with slaves haha. Cant remember the name.

Rudy being from our world and going to a slave market like its best buy or some shit is wild lol. At least he seems more remorseful than some other Isekai where they guy seemed pretty chill with slaves haha. Cant remember the name.

JsnSkg
>>115304456

Context would be nice for the people a little dumber than the norm. 1) This is fiction, 2) It's a different world, 3) It's a fantasy world, with magic and beast people, 4) There are many different species and races in said fantasy world, and therefore varying cultures, that would obviously be different from typical human culture in reality (given that this is an animated tv show). This is all common sense. Nobody is saying slavery is a good thing, nobody is approving it or defending it. Things are different in this FANTASY WORLD INSIDE AN ANIME, that is not equivalent to REALITY. People really need to get that through their thick skulls lol.

YuP
>>115366150

From our world yes but first he didn't get the full knowledge pack of history since he stopped to go to school. Then asian people don't know slavery like occidental ones so their reaction can be different. In the LN he's discribed as unease with that. And to finish he lived long enough in this world to be used to some activities that don't exist in our world (or not anymore) and even if it's bad it's freaking stupid to think that he will save every slave, yell that slavery is trash or other thing from someone of our world because, well... His maybe the only one to think that and even if it's not the case, he's not going to an uprising like that, he got no influence

Wild

keep in mind yes rudy came from modern times but he was raised since a child in this world, also he doesnt really care and isnt gonna try to pull a abraham lincoln "imma free the slaves" type shtick he's got too much in his hands for the thought to even come across, he isn't trying to be a vigilante

Lucky_Icarus
>>115231927

Would probably be a lot more sympathetic if he didn't turn into a whole ass pedophile after all that. But that's just me.

OldManMag
>>115366150

I mean you do know he was treated by everyone he knew like shit. Beaten/humiliated until he became a shut in and resented all of humanity. Then died after being kicked out of home while saving 2 students. Also he's Japanese so I doubt he would heavy a history as a black person like myself even though every one enslaved everyone in the past.

Ebronics

I mean, Rudy thought Sylphy was a dude at first way back when they were kids. its like a continued joke

arr f
>>115246405

@Philbo I'll post you the first two pages of the Chapter. Light Novel 8 | Chapter 8 """ WE RETURNED to my room. Before us were two beast girls in uniforms, one with cat ears, the other with dog ears. Their hands were bound behind their backs with cuffs made of earth magic, and gags were stuffed in their mouths. Zanoba and I both sat in chairs, waiting for them to wake up. What, you ask? Wasn’t I going to take the opportunity to do something while they were out? Don’t be a fool! I was a gentleman. “Mrggh?!” “Mmm! Mmm!” The two of them woke. They realized the situation they were in at once, and started groaning noisily. “Good morning,” I said quietly before standing up, looking down at the both of them. They twisted their bodies and looked up at me. There was concern in their gaze, but they were still glaring at me. “Mmm!” A groan of resistance. They clearly didn’t understand the situation they were in. “Now then… where should we start this conversation?” I put my hand to my chin as I regarded them both. Their skirts had flipped up from all the twisting around they were doing, exposing their tender-looking thighs. Truly a sight to behold. “Mm?!” Pursena realized what I was looking at. She wiggled her nose, sniffing, and her expression turned to one of unease. Her sense of smell told her what it was I was looking at and thinking about. In contrast, Linia seemed clueless, still glaring me down and huffing at me. It seemed Pursena had the better nose. In all actuality, given the illness that plagued me, there should’ve been almost no scent of arousal coming from me. “Hm.” It was then that I suddenly thought of something. I had two high school girls with animal ears bound before me, their clothes disheveled, completely unable to move. It was insanely stimulating. Perhaps it could cure my condition? I’d heard Asura’s noblemen were prone to perverted fetishes. It was possible that losing my virginity had awakened something similar in me. I certainly hadn’t had anything against this kind of thing in my previous life, though it wasn’t what I would’ve called a fetish, either. My mind made up, I decided to test it out. I wiggled my fingers as I reached toward the enormous mountain range on Pursena’s chest. She snapped her eyes tightly shut, a terrible look on her face, like she was being tortured. Like I was doing something horrifyingly cruel to her. You know, there are women out there in the world that do the same thing to mens’ chests without showing any restraint, I thought. That aside, her breasts felt amazing in my hands. They really were huge, after all. But I only felt a faint sense of arousal. No cries of joy from my little man, no signs that he might be waking from his long slumber. When I released my hold on her, the arousal dimmed instantly and only that suffocating sense of loneliness remained. The same sensation I always felt. I guess this wasn’t going to do the trick, either. Pursena looked confused when I released her. She sniffed the air again and her expression turned to one of relief, before a conflicted look came over her face. “Master? Is that how you’re going to punish them?” Zanoba asked. I looked at Linia. The moment our eyes met, she glared at me angrily, so I went and felt her up too. Her chest was smaller than Pursena’s, but she still had quite the impressive assets. Doldia women seemed to be well-endowed in general. But as before, it wasn’t enough to delight my tom cat. The only noticeable change was the mounting humiliation and anger in Linia’s gaze. I’d heard BDSM enthusiasts got off on watching such a gaze grow distorted as the person sank deeper and deeper into despair. I’d had some appreciation for such fetishes in my previous life, but seeing something on a computer screen was completely different from seeing it in real life. There was nothing for me to get out of this. The experiment was over. """

Nabi

bro the salt in the comment section, let my man rudy alone

SakaBozo
>>115237686

Like when I ask a retail employee if they have “this” and they say no, but 5 seconds later say actually we do have this in stock ☠️🤣

Taylor Moon
>>115246405

Straight just Over exaggerating or trolling at this point or are you just want some clout literally what happens next isn’t nearly as bad as things have already happened so if you’re watching the show already up to this point you know what to expect

Philbo
>>115246405

yeah, like yeah its weird but he explains why he does it so i get it regardless of how weird it is. like its nothing to drop the series over especially if you are caught up to this point lol like what elainise is doing is damn near the same thing lol she just has a curse to make it all seem "okay" to the audience

YungZeus
>>115231927

@Aniki Pft, you Rudy defenders are so fuckin weird. He was a piece of shit and still is.

YungZeus
>>115231927

@Panda yeah, he can’t abolish, but he’ll support it by paying the slaver…

YungZeus
>>115243593

There’s no such thing as a “good slaver/master”. She’s still a slave. Goofy.

Devin B
>>115243593

No one said that there was good slaver/master but Rudy did help Julie out by buying her

Gate

who cares, its the time period, slaves are fine with me in the context, they have more freedom than modern wage slaves anyway.

VictorBR45
>>115236176

Gyasi, you're absolutely right and with each passing episode Rudeus defenders just look increasingly stupid. No one is asking Rudeus to become a champion of virtue and free all slaves. At the very least, what would it take for the anime team to portray Rudeus as uncomfortable instead of treating the whole scene as a fun little date down the slave market? Just so you crazy MT fans know, it's not like the episode was total garbage for me, but it was definitely not great.

Daniel Robb
>>115412185

He was gonna kill a 6 year old child if she said she wanted to die 💀

Daniel Robb
>>115707685

I think people are more concerned with Rudy's actions than the simple fact that slavery exists?

Nabi
>>115412185

yea but what would you do? let her be slave for the rest of her life or force her to come with you (which is also kinda enslaving someone)?

Emman Reed

damn, so its a big problem in here but no as much in Vinland huh.

Daniel Robb
>>115412185

Walk away, or buy her, wtf? Y'all wild with the thought process. Making me feel delusional.

Kinkaz
>>115412185

The choices are: don't buy her & she either dies slowly & painfully anyway or gets bought by someone who could possibly treat her cruelly, buy her & she gets to still live decently & not suffer abuse, or kill her. Personally, I'd buy her (if I'm already in there to make the choice, then I already made the decision to go & by one anyway, otherwise my choice would be to not go in the store period lol). At least I know I wouldn't treat her like garbage & if it was possible, I would just free her when she got old enough to be on her own. I'd rather she live & at least have a chance at a good life in the future than to just die (& possibly regret her choice when it's too late).

Nabi
>>115412185

that's literally what he did, he bought her. i don't fully remember this ep that much but wasn't he saying that he's sensing no life from her? idk i'm not a magician nor have superpower to feel the life in people, stop overthinking and go by what he felt.

Nabi
>>115412185

sorry for being late. what you suggested, is what everyone thinks, so I know that too, but as I said, i don't overthink it that much, dude literally said something along the line of “she doesn't have life in her eyes” or something, maybe he knew that she might still suffer from her the trauma after being bought and make life even harder for her. Just don't overcomplicate it, IMO, dude has random ass powers, i dont judge these kinds of decisions when im definitly not in his shoes.

Sergio
>>115412185

i doubt rudy was actually gonna kill her. i think he was testing her to see if she would take it back, but obviously she doesn’t care. he was always gonna but her especially since fitz hinted to rudy that she’s the one.

Sergio

ain’t no way y’all mad at a fictional character for buying a slave in a time where slavery was at its peak💀

Nabi
>>115412185

You're probably right, I still haven't got to this part in the light novels, so I don't know what was he thinking in that scene.