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HXH 70-71 reactions (Patreon)

Published:
2021-02-21 07:29:52
Edited:
2021-02-21 08:51:09
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2021-03

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Killua X

🙌🎉🎉🎉

Christopher Rivera

I won’t fully explain why Gon thinks the way he does because it’s more enjoyable to figure it out. I’ll just say, Killua wanted to be Gon’s friend at the hunter exam yet felt nothing over Hanzo basically physically torturing him (unlike Leorio, Kurapika, or even Hisoka). He was more concerned with whether he had less potential than Gon. Whereas Gon was infuriated over Illumi emotionally abusing Killua. So why does Gon seem to think it’s okay for his friend to suffer for his sake? Technically, there are 3 things supporting his reasoning, one shown later and another to be understood by knowing what is Gon’s core motivation. And the thing I will reveal is that from his perspective suffering is what friends do for each other, it’s what Gon does for his friends. He is projecting his reckless selfless behavior onto others (“treat others the way you want to be treated”). To him it’s just asking a friend for help, knowing you’ll pay them back.

Christopher Rivera

I’ll quote analytical Youtuber Evynne for context: “There’re so many small but telling scenes in the Hunter exam. A great example is during the first phase, when Gon ‘n Killua make a bet to see who’s faster with the loser buying the winner dinner. When they tie, Gon says “I’ll buy you dinner, then you buy me dinner.” Killua doesn’t understand his logic, which is just... the PERFECT metaphor for their friendship. Gon sees it as an equal exchange where they both do everything they can for each other, but Killua’s unaware of that logic. He only sees the ways he’s been helped not the ways he’s helped, effectively making him blind to how they’ve “tied” in their friendship.“

Christopher Rivera

You can also see how Gon’s odd way of thinking enables him not to judge people (based on their pasts as assassins, etc.) and even save them, such as with Killua or Binolt or his father’s similar mindset with Razor. It’s obviously not practical (funny considering Gon usually thinks in a practical sense most of the time) but we’re glad when it works out aren’t we? Lol It exemplifies the following by Nietzsche (author of such globally influential books such as Beyond Good and Evil): “The concept of power, whether of a man or of a god, always includes both the ability to help and the ability to harm.” “Where the good begins. —Where the poor power of the eye can no longer see the evil impulse as such because it has become too subtle, man posits the realm of goodness; and the feeling that we have now entered the realm of goodness excites all those impulses which had been threatened and limited by the evil impulses, like the feeling of security, of comfort, of benevolence. Hence, the duller the eye, the more extensive the good. Hence the eternal cheerfulness of the common people and of children. Hence the gloominess and grief—akin to a bad conscience—of the great thinkers."

Killua X

Great character analysis! People literally upload whole YT videos analyzing Gon's character, he's meant to be complex and confusing, especially right now. I remember first time watching this being surprised about him letting Killua go on with holding the ball, it was like the first time I realized it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows in Gon's head. Btw there wasn't really fire on the ball when Gon hit it. It's just the animation of Gon's power. Everyone has different colors of their aura pretty much (e.g. Hisoka pink, Razor purple, Gon orange/red). I also remember thinking how cool it was to see Gon, Killua, and Hisoka work together as a team here. Always cool to see a "villain" team up with the "good guys" in a show. Little Flower is Genthru's technique where he touches someone and makes an explosion with his hand (think Bakugo). I know it's a little weird thinking Genthru and the other two bombers are better than Gon, Killua, Bisky but think what they said specifically in the show, Genthru and his peeps are "better fighters"--so they have experience, tactics, perfect teamwork, etc. as a team. I think Bisky may be more powerful on her own than any one of them, but she would most likely lose going against the three of them because of their tactics, teamwork, etc. Also, Gon is such a beast here. We start to see some of that potential everyone talks about come thru, Razor was an absolute beast, but that last ball Gon hit with his Jajanken technique, Razor struggled to knock it back to them, Hisoka struggled with his Bungee Gum to catch it and throw it back at Razor. And Razor's hands were all fucked up afterwards (as you pointed out). That was all Gon's power they were struggling to fling back and forth. And you made me want tortilla chips.

Christopher Rivera
>>54083015

I like how Hisoka’s fingers were snapping and his veins were popping from trying to bounce it back. Bisky is likely trusting her student prodigies to find a path to victory. This quote by Edmund Burke reflects Ging’s mentality and Gon’s: “He that wrestles with us strengthens our nerves and sharpens our skill. Our antagonist is our helper.” I also find it interesting to think about how (irl) scientists consider about 50% of our psychological traits to be hereditary (with nen/mindforce/willpower being partially genetic).

Christopher Rivera

Good analysis. Just keep in mind that Ging is an adult and Gon is still learning about the world. He still has some* semblance of conventional morality, some overlap, though it’s still unconventional. He’s a naive kid who doesn’t understand killing when you can empathize, when there isn’t a reason. It’s as though he was considering the Troupe to be like the wild animals on Whale Island who can’t seem to empathize with their prey. To have that assumption challenged frustrated him. Remember how he reacted to the foxbear cub in 99’s episode 1. He could empathize with it and protected it, even more so because it “lost” a parent like him - at that point he still thought his father died in an accident.

yo kel!

anybody else have problems with buffering using the mega app? Other people i watch on patreon use streamable or just upload the video here directly and it works great :/

Killua X
>>54090138

I always download the mega video. You can do that or use the Google drive link.

JD

Being out just means you don't count towards the total number of players, you can still pass to and from "outside" players, and they can still make throws. But a team only loses once they're all "outside" players. That moment where Gon smiles at the fact Razor received his throw - Gon and Hisoka are incredibly alike, imo. They both, (in their own way) get extremely excited when they're against an adversary that could kill them. That's clear from the first time Gon has to face Hisoka, in the Hunter exam - then again in Heavens Arena. And here we have another example that Gon doesn't have a conventional morality. In a way, he's a true Hunter like his dad - a selfish creature (when it comes to "the hunt", and beating challenges). He's more "innocent" or naive than he is good.

JD

Both these episodes give me insane full body goosebumps, in no small part because of the music. Out of the whole series I've probably rewatched these the most (which is why it always annoys me when people talk down this arc).

JD

I somehow completely mixed up the episodes when I asked you to react to a pair on the last upload (even though I checked). Oops! I think I'll rely on others to let you know when eps should be watched together from now on.

Killua X
>>54108860

Yeah. And the foreshadowing... I get it now. There's so much more we get as second, third, fourth time viewers. The first time thru is great. But you see and appreciate so much more on the rewatch.

Christopher Rivera
>>54108549

He’s more complex than just being selfish. There are countless examples of selflessness. He is both selfless and selfish.

Diego Zenhäusern
>>54081583

Maybe it's just me, but I think he is also projecting that he himself most definitely would want to hold the ball again (to show how much he has grown and that he can handle it ). And based on Killuas behaviour I personally think he is actually rigth with this projection🤔 So I'm basically really torn about his behaviour here: I think to him, asking Killua to hold the ball isn't about hurting him again but mainly about showing him the greatest amount of respect he can give, by completely believing into him and his ability to be able to take another hit.....which is kinda sweet to me in it's own (somewhat twisted) way!

Anonymous

I missed these episodes haha, so good :)

Diego Zenhäusern

These where really great episodes and I really enjoyed them! I have to say that I found it really telling (and also a little funny) that for Gon the only way to win this game was to faint after using up all his power, because otherwise his ego would have gotten into his way and made him lose the game in the end🤔😅 And now that I'm thinking about it: This is a pretty good call-back to the last task of his hunter exam, where he also (if I remember correctly) only managed to pass because he lost consciousness in his fight against Hanzo (because his ego/ pride wouldn't let him admit defeat against him otherwise) If I’m being honest here, I think this character trait (the inability to accept a victory that isn’t achieved under the conditions he sets for himself) is the thing I personally dislike most in him so far🤔! It just seems so pointless to me, especially since it often gets him (and others) in serious danger, when they could get away quite unharmed otherwise.

Killua X
>>54113273

That trait in Gon is (like Christopher said) part naivete/innocence and part utter determination to prove himself (to himself and to Ging) by never giving up, never backing down, and selflessly going into every battle thinking he can win, because he must win. This gives him the scary power and unbreakable will that continues to shock ppl throughout the show. It's a character flaw but also a strength. And the most interesting characters are flawed, don't you think Diego? If he was perfect (like Superman) he wouldn't be half as interesting.

Killua X

One more thing. When I was a kid, hearing "kameee.. hameeee!" used to give me goosebumps. Now I get goosebumps whenever I hear Gon say "saiisshhho wa..." (first comes rock).

Radoras

yeah, also get a bit annoyed when the show doesn't follows it's self-established rules, like the dodgeball-rules orsimilarly the "prison-bet" game in the Hunter Exam. But to be honest I was really surprised why Hisoka went out of his way to make sure Gon gets the victory HE wants, even if he wasn't concious to see it happen O.o

Christopher Rivera
>>54190549

It didn’t break any preestablished rules. The prison bet game was playing dirty but this dodgeball game was entirely fair. The players were told catching the ball means you’re not out, only some viewers assume the thrower is also out, but it was never said or shown in the game.