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Q&A livestream on Sunday, Septmber 29 at 5pm Pacific Time (Patreon)

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2019-09-25 19:35:58
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2023-01

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We are doing our monthly Q&A video livestream with some of the Extra Credits crew (it's Matt and Rob on board!) on Sunday, September 29 starting at 5pm Pacific time (GMT - 7).  It will be 1-2 hours long depending on how many questions we get (we always do our best to answer all of them!)

You can post questions at the link starting now (and during the actual livestream itself), and also use this link to watch the video archive after the Q&A ends.  We welcome questions about any/all of our shows and production process, not just specific to Extra History (this link is also shared with the Extra Mythology patrons who are at the same membership tier). 

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Extra Credits Q&A - Crowdcast

Register now for Extra Credits's event on Crowdcast, scheduled to go live on Sunday September 29, 2019 at 5:00 pm PDT.

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Anonymous

Hi all! First off, please forgive me absence on the Q&amp;A this morning. The Q&amp;A was at 7:00 AM this morning for me, and I had an alarm mishap and accidentally slept in. I'm here to answer the questions I missed! Q: "In the Inca empire, when the census quipu was made, were homosexual couples considered households and 'full people' if they married?" This is a really good question, and to be honest, I don't think we will ever know the answer. Tolerance of male homosexuality varied in the Inca Empire, being more tolerated in the south and looked down on in the north. Lesbians, on the other hand, seem to have been highly regarded and given an elevated status. The Spanish, on the other hand, were horrified when they arrived to find these practices being fairly open. They were similarly upset but the openness of the sex trade in the empire (including same-sex) and religious rituals that involved cross-dressing. What we know of the empire comes from Christian chroniclers who, though some had indigenous ancestors, generally held to the Catholic belief systems regarding sexuality. So it's hard to know who would and would not be counted on a census since the chroniclers may have omitted something they found uncomfortable. That said, Inca society and worldview was very organized by "complimentary genders" such as man and woman, sun and moon, breaking soil vs. sewing seeds, metalwork vs. weaving, etc. They were very into men's work vs. woman's work. I'm not saying that they would not accept same-sex couples, but perhaps they existed a little bit outside the traditional conceptions of Inca society, though there are stories of biological men who chose to live as women, so maybe if they did the work they'd be counted? That may be the case since the census was mostly divided by age and type of work, such as "young girls who set snares" and "old women who can still carry burdens." In any case, there's very little evidence of it being prosecuted criminally in the empire, so there was some level of acceptance. I'm just not sure how that would fit into the Inca worldview. Again, I'm not basing that on anything other than my own read on the situation, so take it with a grain of salt! Q: "I'm so excited you guys are going to be doing the Haitian Revolution! Do you know how you're going to be breaking the series down? The Leclerc Expedition still pisses me off whenever I think about it - and IMO at least, so much of the negative legacies (or historical impressions, at least) of this Revolution don't fall anywhere at the feet of inevitability, but squarely at Napoleon's. From what you know or have learned, do you agree?" I'm still doing the reading on this, so I'm not prepared to fully lay down my thoughts on it since I'm currently struggling with the first script (describing the intersections of race, slavery, and class in the colony is so complex that boiling it down to short video is pretty rough). However, from the two books I've read already, Napoleon has a lot to do with the revolution taking a darker and more violent tone. For all intents and purposes the revolutionary armies had done France a pretty big solid by helping defeat the British and Spanish on Hispaniola, and the revolutionary leaders seemed pretty ok with staying a French colony. Independence wasn't necessarily the object at that point. Then Napoleon screws everything up by reversing the decision to totally abolish slavery and declaring that the French would re-impose it in colonies like Haiti. And everything pretty much goes south from there. That's the point where independence becomes inevitable, because the Haitian Revolutionaries come to the conclusion they will never be safe under a government run not just by foreigners, but by whites. And from there things get very nasty indeed. Would history have been different if Napoleon had held firm on abolition? Yes, probably, though I always think it's hard to really know how the dice would fall historically if this or that had changed. I will say that Napoleon's attitudes toward race (which I was not previously familiar with), and chronic need to squeeze out more colonial money to fund his wars probably meant that there was no chance of him agreeing to keep slavery abolished. I think the series will give people a much different look at Napoleon's legacy, as well as that of Jefferson, who helped write The Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen, the document that – more than anything – kicked off the Haitian Revolution. But after having stated that all men are free, Jefferson feared the Haitian revolt would inspire a similar uprising in the American South, and carried out an economic embargo of Haiti that lasted for 60 years. This severing of relations with Haiti's largest trading partner, more than anything, helped create the exceptionally poor and underdeveloped nation we see today. It also helped the US end up with Louisiana, which was by then full of Haitian refugees, mostly the plantation-owning free people of color. But that's a longer story I'll save for the episodes. So this series will give us a bit of a different perspective on two very famous men.

Ryan Wojciechowski
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Thanks so much for answering my question about homosexual couples Rob! I was definitely disappointed not to see you on the stream but as always the answer is awesome.