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Just when you thought Irene Iddesleigh was just going to be kind of old-timey funny, the type of funny that would cause Samuel Clemens to sort of let out a little laugh through his nose, it goes completely bananas off-the-rails insane!! Beheaded ancestors, murder rooms, cocoanut matte carpeting, grim gore, hair-raising escapes led by loyal maids, the firing of Rachel Hyde and Tom Hepworth, trips to Dobb's Ferry.

Trust us, it's deranged.

Oh, and there's Real or Fanfic, Mail, and Dumb Sentences.

Erin's Escape Probability game is right here 

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Moviegique

Irene Iddesleigh - 1897 vs. LotWW - 1911 (Stoker's 1897 novel would be none other than "Dracula".) First ladies who were not wives: Jefferson and Harrison had their daughters, Jackson, Van Buren Wilson and Tyler had their daughter's-in-law, Jackson and Buchanan had their nieces, Arthur and Cleveland had their sisters. For that last 100 years it's all been wives, which probably says something about modern medicine and obstetrics.

Emily Brown

Banter about first ladies, loved it!!

Shawn

Wrong thread but please do some episodes of "Mike Nelson: Time Advocate" where every week a universal clock saves the day.

Ellen Fox

"Idiot," "moron," and "imbecile" had specific meanings when Ros was writing. According to Merriam-Webster: "Idiots. —Those so defective that the mental development never exceeds that or a normal child of about two years. "Imbeciles. —Those whose development is higher than that of an idiot, but whose intelligence does not exceed that of a normal child of about seven years. "Morons. —Those whose mental development is above that of an imbecile, but does not exceed that of a normal child of about twelve years." — Edmund Burke Huey, Backward and Feeble-Minded Children, 1912 So our adoptive mother in the story had a mental age of maybe 7 years. Not great! But if the alternatives were horrible abusive group homes, maybe it was better than the alternatives for the murderous ward? It clearly wasn't better for the eldest daughter of Sir John's great-great grandfather (who was presumably Sir John's great-aunt, but that would be too specific and direct.)

Augusta Vae

I was confused, too, when the imbecile ancestor was killed by her ward. But I think in this instance, Ms. Ros uses ward to mean the person who was “warding,” or guarding, the imbecile. So it would be like if Irene were beheaded by Rachel. This alternative interpretation still raises some serious questions. Why did the family give over care of their child with disabilities to someone who was clearly not mentally stable? Was the ward another family member, yet more proof that insanity runs in the family?

Ellen Fox

Oh! That would make sense, although as you point out, it just raises more questions.

Gina Dalfonzo

All I know is that the whole ward conversation had me in stitches. Best laugh I've had in weeks!

JoshuaJSlone

Even in the modern day it's far from unheard of for caretakers to abuse those they care about, though I am pretty sure beheading remains uncommon, as does piling up "every article capable of being removed", whatever that means.

Balaji S

All those mentions of silly alliterative phrases ("palaces of the powerful", etc) and no love for the very-real Houses of the Holy?

JLG

I believe it means he stripped her body and piled her clothes on top of her.

Moviegique

I was a little surprised they didn't mention Dolly Madison, who was famous for her cupcakes, IYKWIMAITYD.

Moviegique

So, you're saying we have another "slut" situation? This to me makes the most sense. After all "to ward" is "to guard", so you could easily see someone confusing the noun form out of the verb form. After all, usually the verb form refers to the subject, not the object: You don't "doctor a doctor", but you do "ward a ward".

Elizabeth

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Lorne Kates was going to change this name for April 1st but clicked SAVE too soon.

RealOrFanfic: I prefer the read all, and then reveal. Way back when it was confusing b/c you didn't recap during the reveal, but it's fine now. Revealing after each one would skew the results since the victim would know how many real/ff have already happened. The "would take way too much work" solution is to record them with reveal-at-end-- and then edit each reveal backwards in the timeline to when the question was asked. But then it's getting into "this is now a fulltime job" territory. =)

Heather Crocetto

I am looking forward to more "Oscar Otwell as college frat bro" conversations.

Erin M

I agree. I like watching Mike squirm as he begins doubting himself. I want to him start thinking, "Wait, they can't *all* be fanfic, can they?"

Chap McMichael

Yes! Mounting self-doubt is the key to the greatness of Real-or-FanFic. This is true if you are playing along and puzzling it out yourself or just enjoying the suffering of our beloved podcasters (especially Mike).

John Griffin

A little late to the party I realize, but I prefer fan fic or real the way it is now. In older shows, Mike would make his guesses after all the excerpts had been read, but that was even more confusing since you had to remember back a long way. So I vote for not messing with the format!