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EARLY EPISODE: Serving on a U-Boat was Terrible (Patreon)

Published:
2020-10-01 20:26:22
Imported:
2021-12

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Anonymous

Fuck that sounds awful. Unless you were effectively press-ganged, WHY WOULD YOU VOLUNTEER?

Anonymous
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From what I have heard, it was prestigious (somehow?) similar to how people flocked to become pilots in the first world war despite the dangers, some pilots life expectancy could be measured in hours for example.

Anonymous

That title seems somewhat of an understatement. But hey....meth...right?

Hoth

Only thing worse, galley rowers in the 1600’s. It’s some Warhammer level shit

Anonymous

I learned so much more than I thought from this episode! The flammable soap was a particular highlight

Adam

You are talking about the end of the war. Sonar came a long way during the course of the war. The first few years of the war, the Wolf pack were extremely effective. But sonar made the diesel subs more or less obsolete. In 1940 one of the most dangerous jobs was the Merchant Marines

Anonymous

I agreed mostly with your assessment about the life of the common u-boat crew over the episode, but I disagree that Donitz was a monster or a piece of shit. After 1943 the idea of letting u-boats and their crews stay to rot in port wasn't an option because, first, Hitler would never have allowed it. Donitz knew very well the Allied ASW advantage was by then overwhelming, but the idea was that while attacking convoys dead on was now lethal he still had to tie up as much Allied resources into ASW by keeping the u-boat threat on. That choice absolutely sucked for their u-boat crews, I agree, but that's necessity of war and then again, what other options did he have? Being a German grunt on land assigned to Army Group Center right before Opertation Bagration, or in the Atlantic Wall bunkers in Normandy, sucked as much ass and even more. That Chester Nimitz accepted to come to the Nuremberg Trial as a witness in favour of Donitz's defence says alot about how he was perceived even by his opponents. Also, late war German submarine technology was getting pretty advanced and innovative: submerged electroboots like the Type XXI, snorkels, homing torpedoes, radar detection systems, etc.

Anonymous

Also, that the u-boatwaffe was "less Nazi" than other branches is a long-standing myth. Donitz was indeed tolerant and did not press on personal loyalty to the Nazi party; he expected Captains and their officers to loyally perform their duty up to military standard. Many Captains and officers were, however, loyal Nazis, and that was even more the case with the common u-boat crew members. WWII U-boats were the German equivalent of Top Gun in the 80s; they were lionized in media and propaganda, treated like stars when at base on permission, plus good pay and privileged treatment.