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Supernatural - 2x1 "In My Time of Dying" Rewatch (Patreon)

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2024-02-18 11:28:57
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Loved watching your reaction to this one Shelley! And I love how much you enjoyed the episode. Your thoughts on it were really interesting, and I’m glad it helped you like Lebanon more. And … this is why Season 2 is my favorite, it just has so many bangers. Everything is so raw for Sam and Dean in the early seasons, and while they both have hugely important moments later, these years are the foundation of everything to come. This is one of my favorite episodes of the entire series because it gives us so much great stuff with all of the characters. I think this episode is where I got officially hooked into the show, once and for all. This is where I began to love Sam as much as Dean, seeing him so desperate to try and help, or at least communicate with, Dea, and how angry he gets at John when he thinks he isn’t taking Dean's problem seriously enough make me love him. It’s so sad to me how Dean doesn’t remember seeing how desperate Sam was to save him, especially with his insecure he is about their relationship for the next … like, 9 years. I also love seeing how Sam can sense, and even hear Dean on some level (or they just share a brain with "Hoodo priest"). This is a great episode for Dean, too. It highlights his love for his family (which we already knew, but I love seeing it play out), how necessary he was as a buffer between John and Sam and the toll that can take on him, but also how much both of them love him, too. This is also where Dean starts picking up that feeling that he is on borrowed/stollen time, which I hate. This is also a really telling John episode. He loved Dean enough to initiate trading the colt, which he’d been hunting forever, and potentially any chance at revenge to save his life. And when Azazie won’t take the Deal, John chooses giving up revenge and going to hell to save Dean. This is why I can never fully write John off, he loved Dean enough to go to hell for him, and that means something. And yet, he puts a huge burden on him, again. We also get a good look at John and Sam's dynamic. It’s interesting to me how quickly Sam backs down when John stays calm and just says, "Can we not fight?" Obviously, Sam helped escalate their fights, but I think John's attitude and refusal to share his motivations were where their biggest issues came from.

rose mnor

Such a great episode all around!... Great re-reaction and closing analysis too, Shelley, appreciate what you've said and your turnaround about John at the end section there. I've said repeatedly that John had been unfairly judged because of the narrative purpose of this show - i.e. his journey in this story - his character in general and his treatment towards Dean specifically. Narratively speaking, Dean needed to treat Sam as a son too so that he would mirror John and what John had chosen to do in this episode. If John hadn't impressed upon Dean early on in his life to put Sam above all else and to care about Sam extensively, then Dean wouldn't be in the position mentally to have made a similar deal - i.e. to resurrect Sam - and the story wouldn't have worked out. Normal siblings' love wouldn't work organically to reach that point, it had to be more - it had to be codependency on Dean's side. Eric Kripke covered all bases and it made perfect sense narratively of how John treated Dean, to get the desired outcome, which would be then repeated later on by Dean himself. The progression of the story makes perfect sense this way. Unfortunately, this made John the character unsympathetic, thus being judged harshly by some viewers and/or fans. As a parent, John dying for Dean, or more specifically sacrificing himself to save Dean is not that remarkable in normal circumstances. It is even expected of him. What makes his sacrifice "more" than expected or extraordinary, imo, is that he KNOWS what is waiting for him at the end of that line - that he will end up tortured in hell FOR ETERNITY. THAT elevates his sacrifice in my opinion to a higher degree from the regular parent-sacrificing perspective. And about the YED and Tessa, I don't take it as "possessing" her even though the optics are similar. The intention of the scene is more complicated than mere possession. YED needed to resurrect Dean which he couldn't do without a deal being made (I guess a crossroad deal is the prerequisite). In the absence of a deal, he needed a reaper's powers. So he "forced himself" into Tessa and hijacked her powers instead. We saw an iteration of this with Asmodeus injecting himself with Gabriel's angelic grace for his shapeshifting ability in another version of this scenario in the more recent season. At this point of the story, demons possessing angels without there being actual vessels' bodies makes it hard to present the mechanism of it TO the audience, so I give the show a pass in "copying" the possession method instead when technically there is no actual corporeal body to possess.