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Bleach TYBW Ep 14 Full (Patreon)

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2023-07-09 00:29:01
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Bleach Boys are back!!!!!

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Silencer

Part 1 was a Test Run. Part 2 will be the 1st real deal showcase of this whole arc, both in action animation & anime additional scenes.

Slim jimmy

Kenpachi vs shusui ? Who wins

Seal
>>112498319

In terms of brute/raw strength Kenpachi, in terms of skill and experience Shunsui. To the death, it could go either way but gotta remember Kenpachi is part of the 5 special war powers for a reason.

Lleon Swanston

just so you guys know jujutsu kaisen is back and so is mushoko tensei

dead_acc

Fuck yeah!!! It's back!!!!

Seal
>>112498419

You’re late. They’ve been posted JJK when it first dropped, and Wellz was notified about but needs to make some room for MT.

Devin B
>>112498319

Honestly it's a tough call but I might have to go with Kenpachi cause just his brute strength is enough to get him out most situations.

Seal

Before this, it was looking like just going off the manga that this part was going to be the underdog and get overshadowed this summer with the other heavy hitters as competition, but based on this episode, Bleach is just Bing chilling in uncharted territory, they’re snapping. 👌

REFORMED

Bleach Thousand Year Mid War. Theres a reason why this arc was hated when released in the manga, to rushed, bad fights of them just taking turns hitting each other, trash anticlimatic battle at the end where we barely see ichigo use his powers cause kubo wrote himself in a corer by making Ywatch to op. The list goes on and on... JJK > Bleach

Devin B

Bro Rob was really reaching trying to make Chad relevant. Rukia, Renji and even Orihime are definitely above him.

Seal
>>112498727

Yay the troll is here. Welcome to the party. This Ratio goes Crazy doesn’t it?

Cold_Cyber
>>112498727

why do you even hate on bleach, jjk is even heavily inspired by bleach

Tobii

U guys gonna watch mushoku tensei?

Silencer

Manga readers knew going into this that it was going to be an action heavy part, easily the most action packed one of this whole arc which seems to be starting in full force next week for the remainder of this whole cour but I think I can speak for all of us when we weren’t expecting this much Lore + anime additional scenes enhancing the manga by adding context instead of being left ambiguous, even with a dialogue heavy episode which makes sense. Love the special effects that are seamlessly blended with the 2D art. In this 1 episode we got 1. Yhwach’s Birth and Holy Worship sequence 2. Uryu visiting a graveyard of all mixed blooded Quincy to pay respects to his late mother. 3. Ichigo, Rukia and Renji’s interactions with Hyosube (The long black beard, Squad 0 captain) 4. A clearer explanation from Shunsui about why and how Ichigo might not be able to return to the world of the living to his friends due to his new power 5. Showing Byakuya healed and recuperated having a new purpose/mindset Side Note: Based on leaks Ep 26 alone should be a 1 hour special (really just 40+ minutes due to commercial breaks as the length of 2 Eps) and the opening will take some getting used to, but it’s still Bleach esque like this one as ED 23 from OG Bleach https://twitter.com/yamabukilov/status/1677688974780030976?s=61&t=1VigzxkX26iJZItobY59WA Also gotta say, Äs Nödt with the skateboard and long black hair @ 8:37 is literally me IRL and I’m honored to go up against the ice queen Rukia @ 9:06

Amar

Ayyyyeee lets get it. IchiGOAT. in comes these haters i love it

Seal
>>112499448

Don’t forget they also kept in Bambi’s implied forplay Sex scene, which will be most likely extended into an explicit one in the Blu-ray. That poor Quincy dude was just trying to please her before making that pussy go 💦 splitting him in half. At least we got to see some Bambi Booba Lol. This is already a better 1st Episode than with the 1st part.

Amar
>>112498727

wow for a nigga who hates bleach so much you sure give it so much attention, heavily invested in it, recapping the arcs...SS goated i know...also you one of the first leeches here meaning u was waiting for this shit to drop....how u comment before me??? But you a mid piece fan so no wonder you don't like bleach. different tastes. bleach fights>op fights...enjoy the reaction

Amar
>>112498727

JJK>Bleach funny. the creator of JJK favorite anime is Bleach AND Naruto btw, his inspiration was Bleach meaning JJK took after it so Bleach is the FATHER of JJK, buddy 💀 lets not do that

Amar
>>112498319

Shunsui, all he has to do is go bankai. love kenpachi but shunsui

Seal
>>112498727

Lmfao “King” And for those of you that are liking his comment and believing him, the flaws of the manga don’t apply to this anime.

Devin B
>>112498319

@Tingz but when it comes to Shunsui's bankai (without going into too much detail) he would need to reach the final phase to actually beat Kenpachi but even before that it's a stamina battle which I think Kenpachi could outlast him

Jason Balogun

Auswahlen = Yhwach absorbing the powers of non-purebred / impure Quincies. It’s what killed Uryu’s mom, and what took Ichigo’s mom’s powers away while she was fighting Grand Fisher, leading to her own death too. Uryu’s mom wasnt purebred, which means he’s not either. But the Auswahlen didnt kill him.

Tobii

Jerry talking about plot armor/power of friendship with his favorite anime being fairy tail is wilddd

Silencer
>>112502001

Yeah I had to mentally block that out especially when it doesn’t really apply to Bleach.

REFORMED
>>112498727

Nice to see you changed you name Jodeo/Eon again. And what do you mean the flaws dont apply? Its literally a adaption of the manga doofus. But glad you agreed this arc was flawed. Bleach is one of those stories like demon slayer where it excels in fights (minus this arc of taking turns hitting each other) and mid story.

REFORMED
>>112502001

Byakuya survivign is def plot armor . what you smoking?

Seal
>>112498727

Idk who tf you think you’re talking to but I’m neither of those people, and you clearly haven’t been watching if you think this is a 1:1 adaptation of the manga. It’s been made clear since Eps 2 and 5 they were expanding upon this arc to reestablish and rectify/redeem it. Oh and please never compare DS to Bleach in story again. It wouldn’t have the influence that it did if that was the case.

Silencer
>>112502001

No, that was just the result of “fans” backlash. That ain’t on the author or the series.

Kayso

Dope opening it was giving slice of life vibes, loved Urahara and Yoruichi outfits in the opening, everyone looked fire but they stuck out for me. As always the drip is immaculate. Kinda reminds me of op 4 "Tonight Tonight Tonight". Byakuya back in the cut. Part 2 is about to go insane

Ronin Ghoul

Rob - " You don't think that Chad is stronger than Renji?" Almost spat out my drink.

Kayso
>>112498848

Also not Rob thinking Chad was stronger than Renji 😂 lmao

Kayso
>>112499448

@DN lol I was shocked, I literally thought what you just said. Didn't know she was gonna kill him just like that. Savage lol

Bbb123

why robs hair looking dusty all the time

Tim Moore

Well I had to jump in the comments to clarify things bout Goku vs Vegeta for Jerry. In fact, Vegeta himself admits defeat to Goku upon learning he had been hiding the ability to reach SSJ 3 the entire 1v1 which ended in a agreed draw in order to deal with the merging crisis. So by proxy, or self admission, Vegeta did in fact lose to Goku. Just never in a proper 1v1 beginning to end scenario unfortunately.

Yoxxhio

yall talking out ur ass, when does Ichigo use power fo friendship all the time?

REFORMED
>>112502001

It is on the author. No one held him at gun point to change it so he lived. Kubo just a big ol pussy and threw away his integrity for $$$

Devin B
>>112503290

He never admitted that he was defeated by him but that he felt like a fool for thinking that he was on equal footing with Goku. He admits that Goku is stronger but not that he was defeated.

Devin B
>>112498848

@Kayso lol I was glad that the other four jumped him on that cause no way they were going to let him slide with that comment

Silencer
>>112502001

They literally harassed/cyber bullied him off social media when he did that in the manga. Anyone in his situation would’ve done the same thing and it was never about money, it was to end the backlash. If he was what you say he is, he would’ve committed suicide.

morgie

Let's go! heat is back 🔥

Luke Naxh

Bleach uses power of friendship (if you wanna call it that) like once when Orihime yells, other than that never, and why is he even talking bro his favorite show uses it in Ep 1 and every arc thereafter its not the same at all 💀 a real headache there

Goat
>>112503836

He literally said the name of all his friends for his final attack against grimmjow

Luke Naxh
>>112503836

You’re kinda making a point but still wrong, while his friends were involved and in danger he’s never actually said its for friendship or ANYWHERE near the corny level of fairy tail, its really not up for debate so idk what ya reply really does tbh my point really is that they can’t be compared and they can’t Natsu verbatim says its for friendship Ichigo just wants to protect those around him he isn’t corny ab it 😭

Sonicluis
>>112503836

It’s the same thing. Just become one character says it out loud and the other does not, it’s doesn’t mean that both authors are not implying the same thing. After all there both shonen and it’s the most common thrope. That the MC used power of friendship

Luke Naxh
>>112503836

That’s fine I got my take and your wrong we all have perspectives, if you dont get my point being Jerry clowning Bleach for having it once or twice and fairy tail does it more than that in the first ep then idk how to help you bro. Apparently something this factual is a hottake in RTTV’s comments 💀 must be a Rob or a Jerry fan cause this shi doesn’t come from those others 😭 now lemme watch my shows in peace

Shanks

Shanks

It’s actually hilarious ngl, I hope he doesn’t stop doing this 😂

Seal

Silencer

Dude…..if you honestly think I or any of these people are the same person, let alone have multiple accounts on Patreon of all places, then you need serious help. Nobody in existence is paying a Patreon multiple times when they can just pay once any amount they wanted to. At least give a reason why and how you think this insanity. As a matter fact, just drop your discord and delete this so we can discuss this further more civilized cause this needs to end. I didn’t come back on here for any of this shit.

꧁The Artist ꧂
>>112498319

1st phase makes it a draw at worst, and 2nd would cripple most people. 3rd phase is the only real issue but after the 1st two phases it should be manageable till the 4th.

REFORMED

I got him shook thats why. I own every female in his family . I took this dudes manhood so bad hes made multiple accounts and changes his name every time he gets roasted. This why bleach fans are snowflakes

Seal

What is wrong with you people, are you guys really that mentally ill or just bored out of your minds?

REFORMED
>>112498727

Bro is literally a npc. Same responses every time. Your welcome RTTV Im making bums like this pay you on multiple accounts. JJK chads lead the sheep like DN/EON/Jodius

Geraldine
>>112498727

ExrialHD who lied to you and told you that ur opinion on ANY anime or mangas will EVER be relevant???? tf Whatever u think of Bleach is one of the most irrelevant thing in the world so stay hating while bleach keeps winning. "jjk> bleach" my a**...TO YOU and keep your irrelevant opinions to your damn self lol

Panda

Ichigo does have power of friendship moments, but a lot of anime that aren't modern do(naruto and OP also have power of friendship moments), it was a big trope, which was why a lot of people shit on fairy tail. Because every fight is power of friendship in fairy tail(at least every big bad). Thankfully ichigo didn't win the majority of them with the power of friendship, but ichigo def has char flaws. Don't get me wrong, the author wanted fairy tail to be a big friendship story, i get it. I just don't think its good.

Geraldine
>>112503353

that guy Jerry is spouting nonsense as usual. he's watching bleach with his brain closed. Ichigo is a hollow/Quincy/soul reaper...why on earth would he ever need power of friendship??? Bleach is one of the few shonen with no power of friendship. Ppl clearly don't even know what power of friendship is. Ichigo only ever survived back then thanks to his hollows and Quincy powers, not power of friendship.

Geraldine
>>112503836

@Sonicluis that isn't power of friendship. The guy is a hollow so, whether orihime yells or not , the guy would still get revived. His inner hollow is what saves his a**. If there was any power of friendship in bleach, chad would have won against shunsui after all that friendship flashback. Ichigo would have won against ulquiorra without dying and turning into his hollow, Renji would have won against Kuchiki with the rukia energy etc.

Shanks

It’s not meant to be harassment bro I genuinely find this really funny, please never stop 😂

Shanks

This is hilarious 😂

Seal

What’s so funny about this? Delete your comment before I have to take this a step further. We’ll be forced to call you guys out on Wellz streams. There’s no one that is doing anything that you said.

Monkey D. Lucci

DN take a step back and understand what you're letting bother you. It's all good dude.

Monkey D. Lucci

that being said I won't get tired of Ex's goofy posts

Natali (edited)

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2023-07-09 11:21:41 every show uses power of friendship SOMETIMES. But fairy tail does it too much. Also most of the shows that sometimes use it have actually good plot and characters. So people dont care as much. When you have a mid story like fairy tail AND use power of friendship almost all the time? Of course people are gonna shit on fairy tail way more lmaoo
2023-07-09 04:21:49 every show uses power of friendship SOMETIMES. But fairy tail does it too much. Also most of the shows that sometimes use it have actually good plot and characters. So people dont care as much. When you have a mid story like fairy tail AND use power of friendship almost all the time? Of course people are gonna shit on fairy tail way more lmaoo

every show uses power of friendship SOMETIMES. But fairy tail does it too much. Also most of the shows that sometimes use it have actually good plot and characters. So people dont care as much. When you have a mid story like fairy tail AND use power of friendship almost all the time? Of course people are gonna shit on fairy tail way more lmaoo

Seal

@Monkey D. Lucci This is no longer trolling, it’s legitimate false harassment and slander, and for what, shits and googles? GTFOH. It’s “not all good”

Shanks

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Shanks

Please never stop 🙏😂

Seal

Yeah sure, whatever you say. Now seriously please delete your main comment.

Geraldine
>>112507688

@Natali when did bleach even use power of friendship? Chad lost miserably against shunsui after a whole flashback about friendship, Ichigo was saved by his hollow all the time, not the power of friendship...renji lost against Ichigo & byakuya with the rukia energy, Ichigo and Orihime both lost against Yammy even though they were supposed to have "power of friendship"

Shanks

Just deleted it because I’m a nice guy and because you genuinely make me laugh everyday. Keep up the good work 😂

Seal

One piece fans like yourself to get nuked.

J

i love how bleach always makes it seem like chad or orihime will be doing something useful, or winning a single significant battle, only for them to later get destroyed

Amar
>>112499448

Was shanks comment about me? Ik he dislikes me which I get it. I didnt see the comment before it got deleted

Amar
>>112498319

@Devin B didnt know he would have to reach final phase. well im not sure i hope one day we actually see them fight

Panda
>>112507178

Nah he 100% has, imo power of friendship is any time a character get's stronger because of their will or need to assist a friend(just to clear it up), so imo the ulquiora fight was a power of friendship win for ichigo. I get that the hollow is part of him and bleach tends to go the "power of genetics" route over power of friendship lmao, but that shit was exclusively used for that fight and the only other time it really appeared in the plot just explained why we saw it in that fight. It wasn't a power developed or used later, it was one and done for that moment to save Orihime. That's it though, and even then its not near fairy tail.

Panda
>>112507178

You could also say his training with Urahara to save Rukia and his training with Yoroichi for banki were also kinda power of friendship, but besides ichigo being built differnt(litterally and mentally) urahara and yoro did do a lot of side work preping him and developing the method. As well as urahara using it himself, so i don't count that one.

Dante
>>112498727

One Piece has nothing to do with this, stop being toxic like the ExrialHD guy

scheme

jerry shut up fairyvtale is ass

Silencer
>>112508774

You might wanna hold off and bet on Orhime, girl’s gotta surprise.

Seal
>>112499448

Nah, i’m actually rather shocked it wasn’t about you.

Devin B
>>112498319

@Tingz this is just speculation on my end. Shunsui's bankai is about wearing his opponent down before he delivers the finishing blow but with Kenpachi and his brute strength it would be hard for Shunsui to wear him down enough that he gets to the finishing blow. Basically either Kenpachi defeats Shunsui before Shunsui's finishing blow or Shunsui lasts long enough for him to deal the finishing blow.

Slim jimmy
>>112498319

@exrialhd well I didn’t ask ur stupid ass about zoro is u dumb

Seal
>>112498319

@Exrial I know you’re just trolling, but Zoro literally wouldn’t even be able to stand in their presence, he would be just like Renji and Rukia in this episode before Ichibe.

Roman Jennings
>>112503155

You defending him puts you on his dick lmaoooo Just sayin. His hair looks grey and that’s just facts.

J
>>112508774

I know what the surprise is lol, but the reason it was "possible" took all the impressiveness of it away, and her actions preceding it not seeming like they should have been possible in the first place

Fizzy
>>112503353

fairy tail really fried this nigga brain dont even take this dude serious

Mad4Life

Don't care what anyone says Kubo is still a bitch for letting Byakuya live.

Sanji

TITE KUBO'S FINEST WORK

COOL (edited)

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2023-07-09 17:34:09 cry more
2023-07-09 12:56:05 cry more
>>112503836

cry more

Danny
>>112521293

same. i love byakuya but that was a great moment to make his character be solidified as one of the best in the show. and wouldve been great development for rukia/renji.

Amar
>>112498727

@Dante nah it has everything to do with this. people can hate on naruto or bleach but the minute someone brings up OP motherfuckers wanna cry. nah bitch u wanna hate on my favorite show ima bring up yours. dont compare me to this leech, he's toxic every post. can you point me to one of his comments on a OP post? I don't see any, isnt that his favorite show? Yet he comments most of shows he hates...FT and Bleach, why u not on the OP posts since thats your favorite? Clown behavior

Zar D. Goat
>>112498727

He’s literally on every post you bitch ass mf op isn’t even his top 5 you’re just a fucking loser Fr whoa is me ass pussy acting like naruto and bleach are treated like fairytale or something just because people call out the flaws mainly while asking for a fair comparison. Lmfao bringing up op on every post without it being mentioned by rttv or the comments is ultimate dick eating at least were making comparison cause rttv or something relevant you’re literally just being a bitch

Zar D. Goat
>>112498727

You really just made up a bs scenario that he doesn’t comment negative on op when he does almost every time I always argue with him. SMH that really shows how desperate you are to be the victim after you been leading the hate for the longest grow up

REFORMED
>>112498727

Sad thing is Tingz One piece isnt even in my top 5 favorite manga so good try. I do agree though its the #1 shounen. Shounen in general is quite mid but keep enjoying your mid story thats all action and no substance. Theres a reason why your favorite show is a kids cartoons thats just meant to look flashy and cool just like demon slayer but DS way better tbh.

Luke Naxh
>>112503836

I never said they didnt have it 💀, is this comment real. I’m not debating that Fairytail and Bleach are different a grade schooler can see that, every anime uses protecting their friends to power up. But Fairytail legit says it, thats my point. It’s not up for debate its just facts, if anything I would say y’all pressing me when I was asleep is a lil more y’all crying ab it than me. I just commented I didnt ask for the Jerry and FT defense force to put a hit on me 😭

REFORMED
>>112521293

Like I said kubo has no integreity and sold his artisitic vision just to make a quick $$$. Hes cut from the same cloth as that bitch ass AOT author who listen to the fans cause they are sheep irl. No wonder they both shit the bed at their ending

REFORMED
>>112522736

*Only work* since all his other mid works got cancled. Its plain to see Kubo is a one hit wonder just like that hoe ass naruto author. They couldnt sustain writing a decent long story so had to rush their ending.

Luke Naxh
>>112503836

Thank you! For real someone who can read more than surface level, I can’t argue with kids who don’t know reading comprehension. I didn’t major in creative writing to debate something so obvious in a comment section 😭🙌

Nem Kos

No power of friendship in Bleach but Ichigo does have the most plot armor I've ever seen, to Jerry's point

REFORMED
>>112530635

Bleach act like it’s not plot armor since kubo wrote ichigo to be literally Jesus in the story 😂and he still gets clapped like the mid main char he is 😂😂😂

Amar
>>112498727

@Zar here we go look whos back ofc im gonna be the bad guy regardless when this nigga Exrial hating like a mf but im the bad guy lmao i didnt see him on yesterdays op post unless im trippin and i missed him. the nigga commented way more on fairy tail, a show that he hates lmfao same with bleach. I can bring up op all i want cuz i know it gets niggas triggered just like he wanna hate on Bleach posts and shit ima hate on his favorite because hes never hated on OP only naruto and bleach and says OP is 10/10 . I just came back for Bleach so im not familiar with him so im not playing victim. Crazy how I take up for my show when this nigga commented FIRST out of nowhere u still wanna come at me, why u not coming at him when he clearly in the wrong. Again, hypocrisy @Exrial not in your top 5 manga but #1 shounen i rest my case, so you like OP thats my point, go pay attention to that then why u on here if u hate bleach, do u see me on OP? No. By your logic OP is mid then. Bleach is a kids cartoon yet OP is known to be childish, cartoony, goofy looking with trash character designs lol ok. OP fights are trash in general even the fans know it. They get better later on it in the story when the animation steps up. DS also took inspiration from Bleach, again FATHER of DS and JJK. you love hating on the OG Big 3 while hyping up new gen shit as if they didnt take inspiration. Years from now if JJK or DS still continue then your opinion will be valid if u think its better but those series arent even as long as bleach. Even then fuck your opinion its never valid. Thats like saying MHA>Dbz lmfao. Bleach is a "kids cartoon" says no one but you

Amar
>>112522736

Lol stfu. And OP is Oda's *only work* too. At least the other authors know when to end a story instead of prolonging it unnecessarily and dragging it out with slow pacing. one hit wonder my ass. Naruto ending wasnt rushed at all, still ongoing. Returning September plus boruto and TYBW still continuing you're on its post giving it clout. Also this is Kubo's finest work

Amar
>>112530635

Just like other MC's get clapped u act like its only Ichigo. Ichigo is actually OP lets not bring up mid MC's

Silencer (edited)

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2023-07-10 01:17:58 Blame the lunatics of his work that forced him to bring him back. Kubo had no other better choice. It was never about money. It was to simply end the backlash and continue his work in peace.. The ending will be rectified.
2023-07-09 18:36:58 Blame the lunatics of his work that forced him to bring him back. Kubo had no other better choice. It was never about money. It was to simply end the backlash and continue his work in peace.. Byakuya has been givin a new purpose and the ending will be rectified.
>>112521293

Blame the lunatics of his work that forced him to bring him back. Kubo had no other better choice. It was never about money. It was to simply end the backlash and continue his work in peace.. Byakuya has been givin a new purpose and the ending will be rectified.

Silencer (edited)

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2023-07-10 01:17:57 Is it really the most plot armor when he hardly ever wins? Exactly. can’t be ever that if he’s not winning.
2023-07-09 18:38:00 Is it really the most plot armor when he hardly ever wins? Exactly. Can’t be ever that if he’s not winning.
>>112530635

Is it really the most plot armor when he hardly ever wins? Exactly. Can’t be ever that if he’s not winning.

Tim Moore
>>112503290

You literally just explained Vegeta admitting defeat short of saying "I lost" he says "You were stronger". Wake up god damn

Fizzy
>>112530635

@xeparator ong he always loses against his opponent and his power up actually make sense and not just spontaneous because of a flashback 🤣🤣🤣

Nick Conner
>>112522736

Its plain to see you dont amount to much other than 360 no scopes in Call of Duty, so how about toning down the Toxicity and touching some grass, its way more productive than wasting your life being a lil bitch on Patreon.

Nick Conner
>>112521293

@ExrialHD Both authors made more money off of their works than they can spend in a lifetime and were big enough to be at the top of manga/anime creators for a period of time, regardless of what your shitty opinion is, they made more out of their life than you ever will Saltboi. Also he created the characters, he can do whatever the fuck he desires to do with them, stay mad kid. Must be tough being the actual sheep.

Silencer
>>112508774

Well, either way, regardless I’m sure the anime will make it better anyways.

dead_acc

Can't wait for next week man

Amar
>>112498319

This is how i know ExMIDrial is a dumbass or has to be a troll fr. Bleach verse>OP verse as far as strength. love zoro but he doesnt stand a chance against one of them obviously. Ichigo alone can....u know what idk why im wasting my time

Silencer
>>112530635

You could say Kenpachi since that was technically a draw, but that he flat out lost too and never beat was Ulquiorra since White took over, Ichigo himself didn’t even consider that a win.

Nem Kos
>>112530635

But it doesn't matter that it's something else that has a name and its own persona. It's still Ichigo's body and it will still be of help to Ichigo when he needs it so it's still a power he possesses. That's like saying whenever Naruto uses Kyubi it's not his win. But my point isn't really about credit it's more about the fact that he'll never lose, and that stands here. Also a draw against supposedly one of if not THE strongest captain in the very first arc of the anime when Ichigo never trained before is crazy 💀

Silencer
>>112530635

Except it was Ichigo as the one being used here like a vessel, not the other way around like it usually (or rather half the time) is with Naruto. If the character in question doesn’t consider it a win then that tells you all you need to know, especially when he was willing to let Ulquiorra go as far as shopping his arm and leg off to be even with him. He might not necessarily lose in the end, but he still loses just about every time during his first encounters, that was the case with Byakuya, Aizen, Grimmjow, Tsukishima and Yhwach. As for him against Kenpachi, it may be crazy, but that’s why he’s one of the 5 special war powers due to his latent potential on top of the fact that he’s a quick learner being more intelligent or at least rather well roundly realistic than most MCs. Ichigo’s battles has been more so with himself and that internal struggle reflects upon his encounters with his enemies in a tipping balanced scale as as a young man trying to find balance and peace within himself but gets caught up in the worlds problems, that’s what Bleach is truly about that people can’t seem to read or appreciate as it’s literal poetry in motion.

Zar D. Goat
>>112498727

You’re literally always on one piece post lmfao wtf are u talking about? and again it’s not his favorite show and he’s always talking shit and he was literally shitting on sanji this week. It’s crazy you the guy who called in and had nothing to say about bleach or naruto but hated on one piece instead on her acting like the victim again you’re such a little pussy it’s sad af honestly. Op lives rent free in your head I hope u hear Morias laugh in your dreams bitch. And again your talking anime oda draws better fights than kishi and kubo who always have anticlimactic conclusions. Ds ain’t the only anime carried by animation if naruto and op switched studios you wouldn’t have half the balls to talk to the king of shounen like u do. Fights aren’t close combat hand to hand it’s big blows and power and speed that’s why the verse slams nobody ever says op fights are trash except wellz it’s just not like naruto and u always try and throw bleach in there when it’s fights aren’t close to Naruto either just big moves just like op.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

Lmfao how u gonna talk about running on then mention Boruto 💀💀💀 tybw isn’t continuing shit it’s been out forever. If narutos ending wasn’t rushed they wouldn’t still be fighting the same villains and tryna explain wtf they are that should’ve been included in naruto. The manga is weekly dick head and has the bes my sales per because it’s paced so well wtf are u talking about drawn out op just covers way more world and characters than it’s lackluster counterpart and it’s why it’s so successful the fact that unlike naruto the story and power system just keeps getting better. Egghead already better than wano ain’t no slowing down. And once it’s wrapped up and gets the dbz Kai treatment it’s really no comparison. The point of being his only work is one wrong his first work won awrards and he worked on other anime but how would he move on when he’s not finished illustrating op it’s not like the story isn’t done. But kubo has no excuse bleach been done and don’t even talk about kishimotos other work 💀

Zar D. Goat
>>112521293

It’s crazy so net worth determines what u can do with the characters or your show? So odas good to do all the fake out deaths he wants right?

Geraldine
>>112530635

@Nem Kos ur comment proves that ur watching bleach without understanding a thing. Ichigo never needed training cause his hollow and Zangetsu were there to save him all the time. When did he win against Kenny on his own? didn't Kenny stab him and Ichigo had to get saved and assisted by fake Zangetsu? Learn how to get what u watch please ...tf look

Geraldine
>>112507178

@Panda Needing assistance or a motivation to fight when you have the power to win is not power of friendship."Power of friendship" is like plot armor: getting power up out of nowhere cause ur thinking of your friends or a power up after a flashback of friendship. Characters use power of friendship when they are weaker than the opponent so that they can win out of nowhere (with a power they normally don't even have lol). Ichigo's wins make sense due to his origins and he is among the strongest of the series so why would he need power of friendship??? lmao.

Amar
>>112498727

If I went on a OP post and trash it it would be off with my head and everybody would cry, but when i defend my favorite show Bleach on the BLEACH POST when this dumb bitch ExrialHD wanna hate then im the bad guy. Fuck that. you wanna trash Bleach ima trash your favorite OP. Until he shuts the fuck up with the bullshit then ima shut the fuck up. If he still wanna keep going ima still keep going until he stops. The hypocrisy is crazy. This nigga hates every single post and when I respond I'm the bad guy. << Ima keep saying this till it gets thru your thick skull. stop making excuses he likes the fucking show he called it #1 and never hated on OP. hes allowed to not like character just like i dont like usopp which ppl get mad at me for some odd reason as if hes the greatest character ever. swear yall the most toxic fanbase a nigga cant ever have an opinion. Oda wish he drew better fights. Even if op and naruto switched studios naruto still superior. fights are close hand to hand combat there are different type of fights not just "big blows and power and speed". nothing in OP will ever compare to kakashi vs obito thats why you're mad. everyone says op fights are trash not just wellz dont try and make yourself feel better. don't ever disrespect bleach by comparing its fights to op its completely different. there's levels

Nem Kos
>>112530635

It doesn't matter who takes the dub even if there are 3 people inside Ichigo that's still plot armor lmao

Silencer
>>112530635

It’s not plot armor unless the character wins or gets something out of it.

Nyx
>>112503836

so it’s more so just plot armor than POF, either way idk why people act like Ichigo doesn’t have any sometimes

Nick Conner
>>112521293

no, him creating the characters determines what he can do with the characters, because they're his creation. and if his creation made him a lotta money, thats because people really liked what he did with the plot and characters and it got global recognition. He doesnt have to cater to, what Zar D. Amos or ExrialBitchD would like to see the characters do, you guys are insignificant.

Amar
>>112522736

Naruto still ongoing with the sequal Boruto whether u like it or not yea people hated on it but its fire now, even before kawaki it was fire. Bleach is still continuing because of TYBW, a continuation of Bleach, TYBW returned July 8th with Part 2 dumb fuck so no naruto and bleach has not ended. You a hypcrite naruto cant win for lose. first its rushed and now when it gets fleshed out with boruto its a problem. you mad over the same villains and the shit should've been explained in naruto? but had that happened you would have complained then. how about OP should be much more condensed and to the point without hella unnecessary ass episodes. characters can be running for 20 eps straight. please dont act like your perfect series is free of criticism

Paweeze33

In what world did Todoroki beat Dekus ass 💀💀💀

Nem Kos
>>112530635

Well he definitely wins and get something out of the situation since his ennemy gets defeated lmao

REFORMED
>>112522736

This bitch tingz really retarded . It’s common consensus that boruto is trash. You can tell this nigga is anime only and he reads no manga cause he still thinks bleach is still continuing like a retard no wonder he judges series of anime .There’s a reason why one piece has sold over 4 million more copies then Naruto and bleach is no where near top 15-20 selling manga so bleach is a joke . Not to mention Naruto villians literally be talked out of their plans like pussies😂😂😂

REFORMED
>>112521293

I’ve never seen someone flex another persons money 😂😂😂 that’s a whole new type of sad. Keep gurping and slurping on mid authors. There’s a reason one piece sold 4 million more copies then mid bleach

REFORMED

Bleach fanbois be like : iTs nOt pLoT aRmOR cAuSE hE WaS bOrN wItH iT!!111!! . Ichigo is literally Jesus in this universe and barely had to train and still owned 1000 yr old ppl. Shit is so mid like solo leveling with OP MC wank

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2023-07-10 20:00:40 Quality over quantity bitch them numbers don't mean shit when the shit is mid Yea I'm anime only and what? Fuck u gonna do about it? Nothing. Technically bleach tybw the anime is continuing manga is different. Manga may be done but the anime is continuing like I said dumb fuck Bleach and Naruto villains&gt; wack ass cartoony OP villains moriah trash buggy the clown trash. Annoying af trash char designs with annoying laughs and they weak af Say what you want about boruto who gives a shit everyone says it's trash but people praise the manga also its good now the last arc was hype with kawaki and code etc so stfu
2023-07-10 17:49:55 Quality over quantity bitch them numbers don't mean shit when the shit is mid Yea I'm anime only and what? Fuck u gonna do about it? Nothing. Technically bleach tybw the anime is continuing manga is different. Manga may be done but the anime is continuing like I said dumb fuck Bleach and Naruto villains> wack ass cartoony OP villains moriah trash buggy the clown trash. Annoying af trash char designs with annoying laughs and they weak af Say what you want about boruto who gives a shit everyone says it's trash but people praise the manga also its good now the last arc was hype with kawaki and code etc so stfu
>>112522736

Quality over quantity bitch them numbers don't mean shit when the shit is mid Yea I'm anime only and what? Fuck u gonna do about it? Nothing. Technically bleach tybw the anime is continuing manga is different. Manga may be done but the anime is continuing like I said dumb fuck Bleach and Naruto villains> wack ass cartoony OP villains moriah trash buggy the clown trash. Annoying af trash char designs with annoying laughs and they weak af Say what you want about boruto who gives a shit everyone says it's trash but people praise the manga also its good now the last arc was hype with kawaki and code etc so stfu

Amar
>>112608000

Clearly you misunderstand the story of Bleach if u think it's plot armor. Please pay attention

REFORMED
>>112522736

Your anime only so of course your fucking clueless. You talk of things you don’t know . One piece deals with real life issues such as corruption, slavery, racism. You know bleach is mid when one piece has more char deaths 😂😂😂 Naruto and bleach are catered towards those who just want explosions and mid corny dialogue. Even kubo and kishimoto kiss oda’s ass and admited he’s better

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2023-07-11 14:30:55 Hey anime only that’s literally his whole backstory how he was always jesus. Ichigos whole personality is Muh honor. Muh protection. Dude is the most boring mc of all time . Tanjiro better swordsman a&gt;&gt;&gt;. Bleach story so mid
2023-07-10 18:03:56 Hey anime only that’s literally his whole backstory how he was always jesus. Ichigos whole personality is Muh honor. Muh protection. Dude is the most boring mc of all time . Tanjiro better swordsman a>>>. Bleach story so mid
>>112608000

Hey anime only that’s literally his whole backstory how he was always jesus. Ichigos whole personality is Muh honor. Muh protection. Dude is the most boring mc of all time . Tanjiro better swordsman a>>>. Bleach story so mid

Amar
>>112608000

Yet Tanjiro was inspired by ichigo and his story too lmao. Luffy most basic and mid MC. One dimensional idiot 24/7 If bleach so mid why u here. You legit got the most comments out of everyone here Nothing wrong with being anime only

Amar
>>112522736

More deaths doesn't mean better story. Naruto deals with real life issues too. Nobody kissed his ass. Kishi and Oda are friends. Plz send RECEIPTS and TIME STAMPS of them admitting he's better I'll wait. It's a difference between that and praising his work which I'm sure Kishi has done

REFORMED
>>112608000

Tingz the type of retard that can’t read between the lines. Luffy shows his character by actions and has gotten 10x char development then ichigo. Ichigo has never suffered true Ls like luffy . And it is common consensus now and during the manga run that ichigo was the most static of the big 3 where he didn’t get much development similar to giorno. And yes being anime only shows how low iq you are

Silencer
>>112530635

He doesn’t exactly win against them fairly and they usually get defeated by another source

Seal
>>112522736

One piece deals with real life issues while still having a cartoonish and goofy tone that completely takes most people out of it yet its fans use it as an excuse that that’s its “charm”. Naruto deals with real life issues and philosophy in a much more serious and darker tone that actually reflects those issues more accurately, and that negotiation for peace is always possible. Now if only talking to a troll like you to make you stop your ways and go focus on what makes you happy was also possible, but it’s clear more than anything you’re just a childish hater, NewGen fan having no respect for the OGs.

Silencer
>>112608000

You talk about read between the lines for one piece but if you read between the lines with the Bleach manga, you would understand that not only is Ichigo the most realistic character, which is obvious enough as it is in the anime, but also the most subtly developed character out of the Big3. Characters like Ichigo, Goku and Giorno are meant to be beacons of Hope that change others and the world around them, like a clam center of a hurricane of chaos breaking it with their inspiring ways into a sunny break of dawn as how everyone feels about them reflecting their actions, while they change more internally and covertly rather than overtly and outwardly like most other characters.

Panda
>>112507178

I didn't say he needed assistance, i said they get stronger, and i ment literally, because they need to help a friend. Which is exactly what happened in the ulq fight. it was a one and done power up used for that fight specifically, that ichigo tapped into due to his mental state over trying to save orohime. If you are talking about the training, i say that can be power of friendship because it's not something everyone can do(kisukes own words) ichigo and kisuke were just built diff. I do count that less tho since it wasn't used only for ichigo and was also something that kisuke himself developed. But it is very plot convenient. And the reason ichigo was portrayed to be able to get through the training was his will to save rukia. Future chapters in we get a bit more exposition on why ichigo could hang, but reinforcing an idea in writing after the fact will always be considered cheap writing.

REFORMED
>>112608000

Nah that was the gayest shit I’ve read. Bro is talking about giorno being a ray of sunshine that’s going to illuminate the darkness😂😂😂 peak comedy here. And glad you agree with me that some chars are static and not meant to go through any development aka ichigo and giorno. And who cares of realistic chars? We are watching anime ffs. Mf prob thinks he’s ichigo irl and you relate to a cartoon character😂😂😂

REFORMED
>>112522736

Hey jodeo/eon glad you changed your name again . And you said negotiation for peace is alway possible 😂😂😂 bro is living in the anime world I swear. That’s why Naruto is trash cause it operates under the assumption anyone can be reasoned with. It’s so childish. Bro prob thinks hitler could’ve been reasoned with 😂😂😂 narutards and bleachtards are seriously lower iq then one piece chads. I can tell you are very sheltered jodeo and live in a white neighborhood. And let’s be real one piece does get darker then Naruto and bleach

Seal
>>112521293

Yeah cause Japan is psychologically defected with escapism from their suicidal worth ethic hoping to be free like Luffy in his pirate world, covering and ignoring the true success of other series by the publishing companies not reporting on it. The only ones “gurping and slurping” on a mid author are niggas like you who have Oda’s dick down your throats, that you claim not to even be a one piece fan, but still give it nothing but the upmost respect to the point of Fanboyism.

REFORMED
>>112530635

Bro keeps changing the goal post on what plot armor is 😂 it is plot armor by definition cause he lives with his life and enemy is out of commission. Who gives a fk if he did it alone or had help

Silencer
>>112608000

He wasn’t a ray of sunshine going to illuminate the darkness. He literally proved being a stoic beacon of hope for his gang waking them up from being sleeping slaves from a corrupted boss selling drugs to kids. I was told that part 5 is one of the parts you respected but it’s clear it was for nothing but surface level shit…. I never agreed that these characters are “static and not meant to go through any development”, I said that they’re subtly developed, especially Ichigo. People care about realistic characters so that they can relate to them on some level and get more invested/committed in the story instead of just watching something for pure entertainment like an actual cartoon, when this is an anime that’s meant to be for an older demographic watching an overarching narrative story play out, that I must remind you Bleach does in fact have, but since you use gay as an insult, I guess you truly are nothing but a troll. I hope you grow up out of this behavior one day.

Silencer
>>112530635

If the character in question didn’t do it alone having help than that is in fact not plot armor, it doesn’t take keeping to change the goal post on what plot armor is cause what that objectively means is a character being protected and getting a power boost from them self alone with no proper or reasonable explanation. Even if lets say Ichigo got these power boost and won by himself, it was always properly explained, even if not immediately but rather eventually within the story, Ex: within everything but the rain + the blade is me. It’s insane how this is even a topic/subject at this point in the story, but you’re a troll so I guess you’re just fucking around. With that being said, do you genuinely plan on doing this every Bleach post for the next 12 weeks?

Seal
>>112522736

I changed my name but I was never those individuals you named, better believe that. Anyways, yes, negotiation for peace is always possible. You just need the right social skills and leadership person to handle it, it doesn’t take anyone being sheltered or live in a white neighborhood (which I promise you I don’t live in, it’s rather mixed actually) to see that. Almost anyone can be reasoned with (unless they were born evil as something completely inhuman like a literal demon like Majin Buu, or someone like Hitler, who was already mentally long gone, that’s why he took his own life) especially after you beat their ass the way Naruto did before even daring to talk with them, but of course, that’s the part you haters always conveniently forget as if he just goes straight up to them and talk to them without any fight prior to it as wearing them down to get tired of the fighting/tit for tat. Also “Narutards and bleachtards are seriously lower iq than one piece chads” and “Let’s be real one piece does get darker than Naruto and Bleach” LMFAO 😂🤣 thanks for the laugh, that was genuinely hilarious. You’re not just a trolling 🤡, you’re the whole 🎪

Nick Conner
>>112521293

@ExrialSucksD Im not even a bleach fan, i just dont get how you have to be such an insufferable asshole about manga/anime that you obviously still watch even though you think its mid and make it your life's mission to tell randoms you dont even know about how you dont like this or that show and how that makes you able to magically know about the authors character traits, and what their intentions were. What a m,iserable existence. You like One Piece, we get it. Just stop this whining bullshit in the comments troll. Do something with your life

Amar
>>112522736

Lol says the one piece tard tho who loves mid piece. this bitch is sad af

Amar
>>112608000

I definitely can read between the lines and imagine using gay as in insult in 2023 yikes. Like Xeparator said thats the great thing about Ichigo he's realistic and relates to who's watching, nothing wrong with that. "And yes being anime only shows how low iq you are" that makes no sense. I can read the manga if i want to i just choose not to, its not my thing. how tf does that make me low iq? The shit that happens in the manga will eventually happen in the anime so I'll know. Difference is people in the manga know what will happen before anime onlys. So fuck are you talking about go fuck off

Amar
>>112608000

That's like calling people who watch on youtube low iq because they don't get early access and pay for patreon like we do because we watch before they do. Your logic is off cunt

MM

Y’all really be getting so triggered when Exrial comments it’s really wild writing paragraphs and shit lmao

Seal
>>112631408

Honestly, it’s not so much about him as it is about others that’ll see and like his comments as encouragement getting the wrong idea and therefore we must correct and put him in his place, even tho his reputation proceeds him.

Silencer
>>112507178

Who and since when in the world is that considered “cheap writing”? It’s called plot twists.

Amar
>>112631408

Just like he writes paragraphs first triggering people? Yall are so ass backwards, never holding accountable the person who clearly always starts shit and spreading toxicity but when ppl defend themselves/take up for their show then THEY'RE the bad guy its always "yall are so triggered" give that same energy to this bitch ass troll Exrial he hates and harass ppl every fucking post. Your comment added nothing you should've stayed quiet

Zar D. Goat
>>112608000

Lmao name one person ichigo helped like luffy helped momo emotionally by actually going out of his way to make sure he was mentoring him cause obviously all mcs inspire through actions lmfao couldn’t wait to get op in your mouth again just tosound like an idiot… again. They ranked luffy a top 3 mc during dressrosa and he’s already way better now. And ichigo definitely has plot armor every shounen mc does bro they’re all literally the strongest in the verse due to destiny but ichigo especially has moments that make no sense other than I’m literally stronger than anything before so it’s okay to make up rules. He really has the Superman complex that his only problem is not excepting his entire self and once he does he’s unstoppable no matter how op the enemy is and that makes boring writing for most but that’s why it’s a shounen and apart of the story it’s just how well u can execute the villains and aizen is 👨🏾‍🍳💋but yahbac is just not as well written as aizen and his defeat is just as bad of a random power up as aizens no foreshadowing or use of the form again so it’s not a final form or anything just the thing that beats the op villain at hand except for his hollowfication cause that actually made sense

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

Naruto is not ongoing if kishimoto didn’t even write half the show it’s not the same thing it’s more gt thank anything. Lmfao characters run for 20 episodes cause a bunch of different things are going on to move the story along idiot it’s like to come at one for being ongoing when the manga is still top in sales cause it’s going dumb is so funny you’re jealous af how I gonna say your shows are still ongoing and then say one piece going on too long? How does that make sense dumbass? Naruto ain’t got any good villains like at all just a bunch of fucking broken hero’s with no willpower none would have conquerors haki in op being talked down by the dumbest shit. Zero conviction nobody on crocodile doffy kaido akainu black bread or imu level lmao naming gag villains that are supposed to represent the worst of the pirates aka Moria who was defeated and became lazy and buggy 💀 lmao like just stop that’s like me naming the goffy black wizard dude from bleach as an actual villain.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

Lmao takes “most people out of it” so how is it so successful 💀and Naruto doesn’t cover half the real world issues that one piece does and you say philosophy like luffy himself isn’t the best representation of philosophy of true freedom I just sent rttv a video about it and how deep luffys character actually is with just how he lives his life lmao what’s a darker tone than slavery human trafficking government actively going against its citizens. When does Naruto cover privatized healthcare and classism and racism and support the lgbt community? And literally that always being able to negotiate is bs and not realistic or else it would be true in real life and we literally know it’s plenty of bad people out there and Naruto should’ve had some actual representation of that but that’s one of its childish ways it’s fans try to excuse. While also constantly doing the fake death trop even tho it’s supposed to be darker toned and y’all act like op the only one when all three are aimed at the same age group

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

You’re really sad af cause the show u like more isn’t half as successful as one piece even tho think it’s more popular just cause of America that’s like thinking basketball over soccer even if Americans prefer it soccer is WAY bigger just as one piece to Naruto and bleach and it’s popularity is growing while Naruto and bleach’s are shrinking or staying the same.

Silencer
>>112608000

Please go back and rewatch the last Ep of OG Bleach 366, it’s literally titled “Changing history, Unchanging heart”. Rukia commented on how Ichigo unchanging self was able to change soul society’s strict history as one of the major themes in Bleach. Ichigo may have perceived plot armor, but objectively within the context of the story, especially at this point, he doesn’t anymore since it’s all been explained at the end of the 1st part, some may think that’s “cheap writing” but the execution was done perfectly and it’s actually just a plot twist. Even when he fully accepts himself, he’s still not OP enough to take down or one shot the villain at any point he so pleases, that would be a real superman complex with cheap/poor writing if he did. Also they’ve already made Yhwach better written in league with Aizen here in the anime, more than likely they’ll change the ending for the better which you should know was actually a collaborative effort, not a random power up. It just needs to be foreshadowed properly here which won’t be a problem since it clearly won’t be rushed anymore.

Zar D. Goat
>>112521293

Lmfao ur so embarrassing “Japan is psychologically defeated” bro just say your racist and move on how is Naruto and bleach not escapism it’s all fantasy talking animals super powers ur literally just coping odas success is literally the manga not the anime if anyone is on the wrong authors dick it’s u since the best parts of Naruto and bleach are the anime aspects like choreography and action. Writing is the gets u top manga sales that other bs gets u a fun little run and the illusion of actually competing with a series with double your manga sales and even more In merchandising in spite of the Naruto games being amazing and please try and act like Japan just accounts for all of that like one live isn’t huge around the world Man U would think I’m from Japan or something

Zar D. Goat
>>112521293

He does the same thing on one piece post we literally always argue he’s toxic everywhere and 7-10 isn’t Jamis he’s just being his usual troll self and y’all using it as an opportunity to shit on op when it’s not even his top 5 I mean since Naruto is my top 3 imma Naruto fan and all my takes are from a Naruto fans perspective and not op right

Zar D. Goat
>>112521293

Yeah the point is he decided to kill him like he wanted to but an outside person who didn’t creat the character did cause he was afraid fans would drop it and that’s literally being a coward and not having faith in the plan that HE decided not me or exrial 💀 unlike oda who said he doesn’t want to kill characters cause of the big party in the end and he still does just not all the time but it’s totally fair to judge kubo for this just not like exrial does but that’s literally how he always talks

Zar D. Goat
>>112498727

King vs zoro over that bs buddy and Manda for manga oda draws way better fights u don’t even read lmfao how would u know 💀

Zar D. Goat
>>112498727

Bro ur literally mad at peoples opinions as you’re saying people can have opinions 💀and bitch you been the bad guy weirdo hater before exrial came how u tryna play dumb now u stay with op in your mouth and never with respect man smd fr pussy

Zar D. Goat
>>112608000

Literally just said every mc changes shit through his actions u proved nothing my point is luffy being more emotionally mature and connecting with people like Momo and vivi on purpose with words and directed actions at them and with the asl backstory we see where he gets this depth and character. And the anime did nothing different for his character so far what are u talking about it put him on par with him writing wise hell no threat wise obviously and you can’t foreshadow now 1 cause the manga is done and no changes the story and 2 cause we’re already last that point in the anime as well only thing they can do is give us more depth on what happened in the past maybe

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

Damn so since rttv loves one piece and pat says it’s number 1 does that mean they’re tards to? Are they sad af?

Seal
>>112521293

@Zar Let’s be real here, everyone is a little racist towards a particular race deep down inside whether they want to admit it or not but none of us are as racist as the Japanese as they’re literally known as the most xenophobic country in the world, meaning the most racist. They literally act different around foreigners/tourists. Anyways, While Naruto is also a fantasy world, Bleach isn’t to the same extent as neither it nor one piece since takes place in the modern real life world for the as the base setting, Naruto at least makes up with it with real life issues and themes. Now Regardless, choreography and action are the best aspects of Naruto and Bleach, not everybody watches them for the basic shit, we actually care about the writing and the stories and prefer them even with all of the flaws over the likes of one piece that people like you can’t understand regardless of one piece having more sales simply due to, like I said, Japan being basically obsessed with one piece due to a psychological escapism reason. America and other countries aren’t nearly as crazy about it like it is with Naruto and Bleach which both made it on the mainstream anime map and broke more cultural barriers, you may think for Japan it’s more important since that’s the birthplace but it’s not as big as just America alone let alone all these other countries that unfortunately don’t read manga as much as Japan but they do consume anime, which makes it seem like they don’t truly appreciate a series for what it is except for those that actually go out of their way to read their manga. I’ve read all 3 and let me tell you, One piece isn’t nearly as impressive as you and others make it out to be, Naruto and Bleach are at the bare minimum in league with it and that’s not even including all their other strengths that aren’t necessarily anime wise. Aside from that regarding Kubo, if he was being a “coward” like you say then he would’ve committed suicide or stopped writing the series all together at the very least. Oda is far worse with this since he brings characters back all the time. It should be fair to judge any and all of them, but it’s clear which one is worse in this regard.

Schlotzkovich

And just like that it's going down. I love that the Sternritters and Juha really don't play. Them boys know how to make an entrance.

Silencer
>>112608000

Yeah every MC does it but clearly some do it better than others and next to none have done it a subtly as Ichigo, who aside from being the most realistic one, is the most emotionally mature MC out of the Big3. Based on how you’re talking, I don’t think you’ve read the Bleach manga or at least not at a carefully steady pace. Besides that, i’m not gonna give you all the subtle hints on how they’re handling Yhwach’s writing and whether or not it’s on par with Aizen remains to fully be seen anyway as this is only part 2 out of 4, which means there is a ton of expansion they can do with the anime as they already have regardless of the manga being done, what happened in the past as depth will be more than enough but there will definitely be some more in the present as well as they did with Chojiro.

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2023-07-11 14:30:59 Who said Naruto is ongoing and why does that even matter? If anything it’s a good thing that it’s not ongoing when it’s been 20 years at this point and went on for well over a decade and half, at least both Naruto and Bleach knew when to to end unlike one piece, congratulations for getting better when they’re no longer prominently around in manga form, as for anime, anime canon was more prevalent in the Naruto/Shippuden series that Kishimoto had a hand in, even the Boruto manga is better than how the anime portrayed it, regardless OG Naruto it’s coming back to overshadow everything, even if only temporarily and Bleach TYBW has been doing the anime wonders as it’s never been better, and only proving that Bleach was always more the popular/mainstream anime than one piece. The manga being on top that you really need to get through your head is only primarily thanks to Japan as 400+/500+ million of it’s sales are strictly from only there, while the rest is from certain eastern countries like Europe, nobody else cares about one piece like that as being obsessed with it as the anime never broke as many cultural barriers as both Naruto and Bleach did, having made it on the mainstream anime map after DBZ. Believe it or not, here throughout the western world which is bigger than Japan and all of its eastern countries, DBZ, Naruto and Bleach are the Big3 dubbed anime as the most iconic of all time, so regardless of how you feel about the US and whether it’s the best or not, that’s irrelevant since whenever something becomes a big here, it becomes a big everywhere else like a domino effect, it’s the same analogy that if you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere, it’s not about whether it’s the best country or state/city in the world, just the most popular and where the mainstream resides in. They’ve been cemented in history and haven’t stopped being popular just by the simple fact that people still talk about it like we are here to this day. The fact that there’s more one piece fans that hate on it then there is Naruto or Bleach fans that hit on one piece speaks volumes. As for quality, and as someone that has read all of the big3, they’re on equal footing for different reasons. I also asked for all of the life lessons in Naruto https://www.cbr.com/naruto-life-lessons/ it’s literally darker and harsher just by having Child soldiers as one of the bases/premises of the whole series, like have you even watched or properly paid attention to it? Also Pat says it’s number 1 but it’ll all depends on how he talks about it and treats it moving forward and it’s clearly just to him anyways, he never said it was a fact.
2023-07-11 04:58:15 Who said Naruto is ongoing and why does that even matter? If anything it’s a good thing that it’s not ongoing when it’s been 20 years at this point and went on for well over a decade and half, at least both Naruto and Bleach knew when to to end unlike one piece, congratulations for getting better when they’re no longer prominently around in manga form, as for anime, anime canon was more prevalent in the Naruto/Shippuden series that Kishimoto had a hand in, even the Boruto manga is better than how the anime portrayed it, regardless OG Naruto it’s coming back to overshadow everything, even if only temporarily and Bleach TYBW has been doing the anime wonders as it’s never been better, and only proving that Bleach was always more the popular/mainstream anime than one piece. The manga being on top that you really need to get through your head is only primarily thanks to Japan as 400+/500+ million of it’s sales are strictly from only there, while the rest is from certain eastern countries like Europe, nobody else cares about one piece like that as being obsessed with it as the anime never broke as many cultural barriers as both Naruto and Bleach did, having made it on the mainstream anime map after DBZ. Believe it or not, here throughout the western world which is bigger than Japan and all of its eastern countries, DBZ, Naruto and Bleach are the Big3 dubbed anime as the most iconic of all time, so regardless of how you feel about the US and whether it’s the best or not, that’s irrelevant since whenever something becomes a big here, it becomes a big everywhere else like a domino effect, it’s the same analogy that if you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere, it’s not about whether it’s the best country or state/city in the world, just the most popular and where the mainstream resides in. They’ve been cemented in history and haven’t stopped being popular just by the simple fact that people still talk about it like we are here to this day. The fact that there’s more one piece fans that hate on it then there is Naruto or Bleach fans that hate on one piece speaks volumes. As for quality, and as someone that has read all of the big3, they’re on equal footing for different reasons. I also asked for all of the life lessons in Naruto https://www.cbr.com/naruto-life-lessons/ it’s literally darker and harsher just by having Child soldiers as one of the bases/premises of the whole series, like have you even watched or properly paid attention to it? Also Pat says it’s number 1 but it’ll all depends on how he talks about it and treats it moving forward and it’s clearly just to him anyways, he never said it was a fact.
>>112522736

Who said Naruto is ongoing and why does that even matter? If anything it’s a good thing that it’s not ongoing when it’s been 20 years at this point and went on for well over a decade and half, at least both Naruto and Bleach knew when to to end unlike one piece, congratulations for getting better when they’re no longer prominently around in manga form, as for anime, anime canon was more prevalent in the Naruto/Shippuden series that Kishimoto had a hand in, even the Boruto manga is better than how the anime portrayed it, regardless OG Naruto it’s coming back to overshadow everything, even if only temporarily and Bleach TYBW has been doing the anime wonders as it’s never been better, and only proving that Bleach was always more the popular/mainstream anime than one piece. The manga being on top that you really need to get through your head is only primarily thanks to Japan as 400+/500+ million of it’s sales are strictly from only there, while the rest is from certain eastern countries like Europe, nobody else cares about one piece like that as being obsessed with it as the anime never broke as many cultural barriers as both Naruto and Bleach did, having made it on the mainstream anime map after DBZ. Believe it or not, here throughout the western world which is bigger than Japan and all of its eastern countries, DBZ, Naruto and Bleach are the Big3 dubbed anime as the most iconic of all time, so regardless of how you feel about the US and whether it’s the best or not, that’s irrelevant since whenever something becomes a big here, it becomes a big everywhere else like a domino effect, it’s the same analogy that if you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere, it’s not about whether it’s the best country or state/city in the world, just the most popular and where the mainstream resides in. They’ve been cemented in history and haven’t stopped being popular just by the simple fact that people still talk about it like we are here to this day. The fact that there’s more one piece fans that hate on it then there is Naruto or Bleach fans that hate on one piece speaks volumes. As for quality, and as someone that has read all of the big3, they’re on equal footing for different reasons. I also asked for all of the life lessons in Naruto https://www.cbr.com/naruto-life-lessons/ it’s literally darker and harsher just by having Child soldiers as one of the bases/premises of the whole series, like have you even watched or properly paid attention to it? Also Pat says it’s number 1 but it’ll all depends on how he talks about it and treats it moving forward and it’s clearly just to him anyways, he never said it was a fact.

Amar
>>112498727

i dont read the manga i dont care to. i like to watch fights moving in action in the anime. i admit i had my faults in the past but i stopped it and i've changed now but ima keep sayin something till this bitch stops. difference between the two of us is he's doin this shit unprovoked. the reason i always hated on OP is because you fans started the shit always hating on naruto first so its always been a war so dont make it seem like im some hater who spams every single post calling it mid and commenting under ppl saying "depression isnt real imagine watching a fake cartoon that helps you get thru things" that goofy shit. I only go off if someone comes for me. See you next time, hopefully not

MM
>>112631408

Hahaha! I think it’s funny that whether he is trolling or not he is just stating his opinion on the show then yall make a 5 paragraph essay about the characters story why it’s not trash etc it’s funny cause like who cares lol you really got to convince some random mf that the show you like is good? Is it that real for you? Lol

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2023-07-11 14:30:54 Oh no don’t be mistaken, he’s definitely trolling, but the problem is that he’s also quite clearly and constantly hating unprovoked. It’s not an opinion when it’s just blatant hate out of nowhere for seemingly every show, and even with the ones he likes he fanboys over them while sitting on others, similarly like an OP fanboy inherently speaking. It’s not about convincing him to like our show, it’s for him to simply stop and get over his childish trolling ways as making him understand it’ll lead to nothing but backlash and rightfully so. That’s the point. If that doesn’t work we’ll take other measures, as he or anyone can’t be allowed to continue to keep doing it as if this patron wasn’t already toxic enough before his arrival.
2023-07-11 10:19:58 Oh no don’t be mistaken, he’s definitely trolling, but the problem is that he’s also quite clearly and constantly hating unprovoked. It’s not an opinion when it’s just blatant hate out of nowhere for seemingly every show, and even with the ones he likes he fanboys over them while shitting on others, similarly like an OP fanboy inherently speaking. It’s not about convincing him to like our show, it’s for him to simply stop and get over his childish trolling ways as making him understand it’ll lead to nothing but backlash and rightfully so. That’s the point. If that doesn’t work we’ll take other measures, as he or anyone can’t be allowed to continue to keep doing it as if this patron wasn’t already toxic enough before his arrival.
>>112631408

Oh no don’t be mistaken, he’s definitely trolling, but the problem is that he’s also quite clearly and constantly hating unprovoked. It’s not an opinion when it’s just blatant hate out of nowhere for seemingly every show, and even with the ones he likes he fanboys over them while shitting on others, similarly like an OP fanboy inherently speaking. It’s not about convincing him to like our show, it’s for him to simply stop and get over his childish trolling ways as making him understand it’ll lead to nothing but backlash and rightfully so. That’s the point. If that doesn’t work we’ll take other measures, as he or anyone can’t be allowed to continue to keep doing it as if this patron wasn’t already toxic enough before his arrival.

Zar D. Goat
>>112521293

Yeah you’re just an idiot if one piece was so simple the YouTube community wouldn’t be what it is Naruto or bleach doesn’t have half the community we do and it’s spent every week talking about the writing not the superficial anime stuff like choreography. U need to watch the ohara or morj videos cause ur clearly lost watching it and Naruto isnt as big anywhere else not even America like one piece is as big in France. Lmfao go tell Merphy naiper and all the other fantasy book readers who say odas top 5 of our time period outside of anime. U literally have to be slow to think one piece isn’t written better than bleach or Naruto it’s always been that way they just took themselves more serious while at the same time focusing on less real world problems and focus on cool moves than character moments.

Zar D. Goat
>>112521293

U people love to act like the 4kids dub isn’t a thing that drastically changed one pieces perception in the west and even still got a proper remake and is now had has been growing even bigger and it has nothing to do with japans depression lmao you’re sad af like Japan is the most racist while china owns slaves and European countries have holidays still supporting racism all just to justify u being a shity person to. “Naruto at least makes up for it realist themes” 💀 like what “hurt people hurt people”💀😂 Naruto doesn’t cover half as much as one piece where’s the slavery in Naruto the privatized healthcare the racism the classism we got corrupt police and governments also what does Naruto cover that’s realer than that?

Zar D. Goat
>>112608000

The one who does it better than others is luffy buddy sorry the same way he does it subtly throughout the show by just his actions and then also adding on his intentional moments like with kobe vivi shirahoshi robin ussop I can go on and on lol you’re clearly just a hater. I’m talking about we see luffy notice the problem and do something out of the norm to fix the problem they’re going through and say just the right thing while also influencing the world around him by just being his nonstop self and I can guarantee the one piece world would look way different when luffys his done than the bleach world in the end

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

How much of Naruto’s 250 mil come from Japan 💀 cherry picked stats and bs about op fans when it’s been narofans being the most toxic to us in the beginning just for saying is show is better imagine thinking child soilders is worse than child slaves 💀 u literally just tried to say dbz was part of the big 3 to prove ur anime point what a loser the name big 3 was given specifically for the manga runs idiot all your points mean nothing 💀 and isn’t even provable I been watching op for 20years when it first aired it’s not a recent thing weirdo. It’s just casuals had an easier time getting to Naruto than one pice and now it’s flipping. And tings literally said it’s ongoing cause of boruto and it is cause it’s canon it’s just not good so u don’t want to claim it Naruto or bleach didn’t do more in less time it’s literally around the same time while op has way more depth and story to cover. Man one piece wasn’t mainstream yet me with no computer air extra access watched it until skypia and literally never seen bleach on at a regular time didn’t watch it until after cause it’s not as big as Naruto and one piece. It’s like the way y’all lie about the anime success cause it’s not calculated as much as the manga sales

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

So Naruto only has 97 mil sold outside of Japan in 47 countries and one piece has 184 mil sold in 60 countries outside of Japan lmfao bro y’all delusional af and desperate for u favorite to be the best when it’s simply just comparable to the actual best

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

Exrial is hilarious, Dude comes up with some funny names for shows. He even shits on shows I enjoy and I just chuckle at them. Hope he never leaves.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

I just read that list and man that was embarrassing “the brightest smiles hold the most pain” corny ass theme half of those were dumb af and all the other ones were in one piece on top of the ones exclusive to one piece so there goes that argument

MM
>>112631408

You’re very passionate about this lol go for it man but Idc that much just thought it was funny

Sixaxis112
>>112521293

Yo Zar, shout out to Merphy Napier I always enjoy her videos. Eon also saying everyone is racist is wild as hell.

Seal
>>112631408

See, that’s the main issue right there as finding this funny giving him encouragement. Anyone ought to be passionate about someone constantly slandering one of their favorite series.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

Funny how I had to put Naruto and not bleach tho cause one piece out sold all of bleach with just it’s outside of Japan sales 💀 it’s really only in the big 3 cause it was comparable in sales to Naruto for a while but it was never big as one piece a simple YouTube search of manga sales from 2000 to now will show u how the big 3 got its title

MM
>>112631408

Your part of what’s funny about all this

Seal
>>112631408

That’s unfortunate. Not even trying to be.

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

There's no reason to take him seriously, which is why you getting so upset at him begging RTTV to delete his comments make it even more hilarious.

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>>112631408

Now I wonder, does the same apply to you? I find it beyond odd that you seem to defend him and seem to be somewhat in unison. Maybe I should get them on you as well, as it’s extremely overdue. You find this funny while I find it nauseating. Grow up little man.

Seal
>>112631408

Old enough to be tired of this shit and see that this community needs to be better.

Amar
>>112522736

jealous of what lol nigga please. naruto has no good villains? great joke. Madara, Orochimaru etc shit on OP corny wack villains. Only good villains in OP are doflamingo, kaido, lucci only a few but most of them are trash/mid. no one in OP is better written than itachi. a villain at first but ended up being good all along. RTTV loving OP doesnt make them sad af or op tards. op tards are people who act like their series is the best while hating on other series. RTTV doesnt do that. they love other series as well. pat supposedly having it as his number 1 doesnt mean shit he loves naruto and bleach too.

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

You already tried to have him go after me, and guess what try again. I'll do what you can't and just ignore the guy. It's a pateron post about an anime, no reason to lose sleep over this.

MM
>>112631408

I don’t think old enough to have left the moms house yet cause you pressed over the wrrooonng shit my boi getting upset over slander of your favorite series can’t even be taken serious and is laughable at best

Amar
>>112631408

@Sixaxis "He even shits on shows I enjoy and I laugh at them" but if I shit on a show you enjoy (OP) you get mad. Its the hypocrisy for me. I'll tell you why you don't mind Exrial. Because OP is his favorite, he said its #1 and put it above naruto and bleach (just like you), yes despite him putting negative comments each and every post including OP. You don't mind him because he shits on Bleach posts when you're a certified bleach hater like Zar is. So its convenient for you. @Marcus its more than just him stating his opinion on anime. he's all around negative and toxic. Insults people for preferring dub, tells people to man up/grow up for saying fairy tail helped them thru a hard time in their life and says depression is a fake mental illness and isnt real and actually being a bitch to people so yeah. But just like he can state his opinion we can state ours and thats as simple as that. He can do what he wants yet when people respond to his nonsense its a problem, again hypocrisy. People call me toxic but I only go off when someone starts with me first. Other than that im chill

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>>112631408

I said them as in RT TV, not him. And best believe I don’t lose any sleep over this as I can stop whenever I want.

Seal
>>112631408

@Marcus Lmfao now that’s funny since I live in my own place. And trust me, I’m not as pressed as it may seem here or as much as I can get on other things, it’s serious but not as serious as it seems.

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2023-07-11 20:37:57 I’ll honestly give u some grace since you’re anime only I’ve already proven my Japan success theory I’m good for the day and it’s way more villains than the ones u named it’s cool tho. And shanks&gt;Itachi in fact Itachi is just an evil shanks
2023-07-11 13:20:11 I’ll honestly give u some grace since you’re anime only I’ve already proven my Japan success theory I’m good for the day and it’s way more villains than the ones u named it’s cool tho. And shanks>Itachi in fact Itachi is just an evil shanks
>>112522736

I’ll honestly give u some grace since you’re anime only I’ve already proven my Japan success theory I’m good for the day and it’s way more villains than the ones u named it’s cool tho. And shanks>Itachi in fact Itachi is just an evil shanks

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

It’s crazy that ur describing yourself rn tho u can’t praise Naruto with putting down one piece it’s hilarious always saying mid piece and you been that way man and people are just responding to u just like do exrial and it does mesh something that pat put it number 1 especially cause he seen the other 2 first so he has all the context and made the right choice just like me who loves all 3 and still has op 1 yours tbd weirdo tryna shit on a show and call it bad even tho it’s more successful than yours

Seal
>>112521293

I swear you’re obsessed with that username that’s not even me, and it may be wild but it’s the harsh reality.

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

He literally told u it’s not in his top 5 yet u just lied and said he told u it was number 1 cause ur so desperate for the op community to be like u. I never unfairly shit on bleach 💀 I just tell u it’s not as good as one piece you literally call one piece mid piece and actively go out of your way to hate on it all the time that’s the real hypocrisy

MM
>>112631408

Seeee looks like we all toxic in this mf hahaha

Zar D. Goat
>>112498727

Show me time stamp where op fans started it since u got the receipts so I been here since episode 1 of op and wellz said that op fans said it was better but that’s not shitting on it for the sake of hating like u do. U literally called in just to hate it’s never going back from that hating ass weird shit u are who u are u shit on everything about one piece while we just say our show is written better I never even get into detail on here about all the plot holes and problems cause ain’t no point that’s the bs u need to pull op is literally more successful and you talk about it like a little brother to bleach and Naruto when it’s not the case America isn’t the world op has been more successful worldwide it’s just now reaching casuals in America and that’s why u see all the new op fans.

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

Tingz keep crying. You guys go on and on about Exrial being toxic yet you and Eon are doing the same shit. Exrial was shitting on Vinland Saga every post but I didn't say a single word to the guy. Like I said before, the real reason I don't mind him is because what he says is funny and I don't take anything he says seriously. No one started with you in this comment chain yet you butt in and start spouting nonsense.

Sixaxis112
>>112521293

Pretty sure I'm not racist my guy. But go off with your delusional thinking.

Seal
>>112521293

Just cause I don’t see it as impressive in general as you do doesn’t make me an idiot, an idiot in this case would be thinking it’s impressive enough to be in its own league or anything akin to “the greatest story ever told” to which not even the Bible is since there’s no such thing, maybe when it actually ends it could go down in history as arguably the best Shonen manga but even then that would only be the highest possible achievement that it could ever dare to achieve. Nothing more. Anyways, if you genuinely think the Naruto or Bleach communities only talks about superficial anime stuff like choreography or the fights than you clearly are not part of them and genuinely don’t know what you’re talking about as both of those series communities talks about their stories and characters just as much, if not more. The same goes for the real world problems such as the discrimination against the Uchiha and other villages, the villages government corruption with the higher-ups, the children of war turned terrorists as the Akatsuki (暁) + all of these https://www.cbr.com/naruto-real-world-similarities/ Naruto’s never been working with the real world issues. Now I don’t know anyone here that was acting like the 4kids dub wasn’t a thing, In fact that’s exactly the very root source of what screwed up one piece’s perception and reputation as holding it back on top of it goofy art style, length, and tone that was already out of place compared to most other animes, especially to Naruto and Bleach, it just didn’t hold up and resonate let alone seem like apart of any big3 for other cultures as much as mush as a Naruto and Bleach do, with the lack of a proper dub only made it exponentially worse to the point of no return, I’d be lying if I said I didn’t get into one piece through it but thankfully I was able to move on from it and read the manga, as well as rewatch the series in sub, not to mention I do also watch those ohara and morj reviews and breakdown videos, and even checked out Merphy but it’s still not enough for me to stan or a dickride one piece the way you do, despite having grown up with it, but rather look at it more critically and realize that it has just as many flaws as it does have strengths. The reality is one piece appeals to certain people sensibilities just like theirs and yours, those that yearn for a lighthearted tone in this dark and harsh world as escapism, but unfortunately or rather fortunately that’s something you just grow out of as did I, even if somehow it was better written, it would only be in a certain aspect/category, not all of them overall to the point of where it’s not even comparable since they’re all part of the Big3 beyond just popularity and sales. Only a OPtard/fanboy/stan and Naruto or Bleach hater/lowballer/downplayer would dare to think otherwise. Those other series has escapism as well but not to the same degree. Also, what makes you think Japan doesn’t own slaves as well through gangs? I wasn’t justifying being a shitty person as I’m not shitty, so don’t try to project and I suggest you do more research into the modern corruption and faults of Japan.

Seal
>>112521293

So you’re honestly going to say and act like there’s not a single race or a group of people that you feel is somewhat inferior to your own due to any personal grudges or sensibility due to any prior run-ins or inconveniences? Now I’m not saying you or anyone should be racist, but inherently speaking, it comes from experience and upbringing so it’s more so on the natural side of things which of course can be broken and freed from, it doesn’t take any type of “delusional thinking” to see that.

Seal
>>112522736

@Zar Alright listen, there’s only one way this is going to end as there’s no way someone like yourself can be allowed to have the last word in this comment section so please put aside your fanboyism, and read to understand not just to respond. One Piece may have the most manga sales as the primary and soul reason for its success, but Naruto had the most cultural impact breaking the most barriers cementing it as part of the Big3 while Bleach was the only one to rival it anime wise and had the most consistency manga wise enough to have the most influence amongst the NewGens such as JJK, demon slayer, and black clover. Being a part of the Big3 was never just about it’s manga sales popularity or even it’s longevity but it’s very content that they manage to cover as well as their cultural impact and influence that was both beyond what one piece was able to reach outside of Japan and certain eastern countries for the longest time only until recently, and even now it can never be tipped completely in its favor enough to overtake Naruto or Bleach as they’re already more iconic cemented with a longer history since all of their sales don’t reflect how the rest of the world outside of the eastern parts truly feel since manga has only recently become main stream and Naruto and Bleach’s successes primarily came from their anime adaptations, even if their source material is better. However what you must understand that one piece appeals to Japan’s sensibilities, so naturally they’ll focus and report on it more covering the true success of other series that easily reached the same, if not a greater level when they were nearly at the same length, mainly between Naruto and one piece since Bleach started nearly a decade after one piece, so thats really all I was ever trying to say with their psychological and political escapism reason, it’s no hate, cope or anything else of the sort. Sales may have how they got the title in the first place but it’s never been the only reason since then as other reasons are created with time, and speaking of which Naruto and Bleach covered more ground in less time simply cause they’ve always had better pacing, regardless of whether one piece had more depth or story to tell, just cause anything or anyone has more to offer/give doesn’t necessarily make it or them better as what matters is quality over quantity, now I’m not saying one piece doesn’t have quality but you have to admit it’s dragged out like no one’s business, 10x worse than how people felt about OG DBZ back in the day, that’s exactly why, no matter how great the animation gets it’ll never compare to the manga, and even with that the pacing isn’t necessarily the best either. Like I said, for every strength that it has there is a weakness. Aside from that, I’m sure Naruto fans were easily the most toxic out of the Big3 fandoms, actually I would say even beyond them would be the DB fandom were the most toxic and when I said that it was part of the big3, I said specifically of dubbed anime that actually made it on the mainstream anime map and became iconic together, primarily throughout the whole western world but unfortunately, many people have seem to forgot about that due to sub elitist throughout the anime community always spreading hate for dubbed anime while praising sub, as well as many years having passed and instead of replacing Bleach with DBZ simply for it being gone for so long and forgetting about it not realizing that it has the most influence, especially with its ruined reputation due to slanderous hit pieces prior to the TYBW anime that we have now that is trying to rectify and redeem the series better than ever, but recently ever since the Eps leading up to 1000 one piece fans have become the most toxic by far, practically the modern day DB fandom. If one piece is so great, try to reflect that as a fan of it by understanding where I’m coming from. Stop with the petty insults as if you haven’t noticed I’ve hardly insulted you at all whatsoever. Is it really so hard to appreciate one piece without shitting on all these other series, even if others don’t follow that ideal behavior? Be better and I will gladly encourage others to do the same.

REFORMED
>>112521293

What the fuck 😂😂😂 jodeo/eon just exposing himself to be a racist and acting like it’s normal. No wonder this dude is so brain dead. You can tell from his post he’s been bullied so now he hates those races. Bro thinks he madara irl thinking he’s superior. And there’s a reason why one piece has been broadcasted on news channels around the world and in art museums cause it’s just that better. There a reason why most of the booktubers who are well versed in literature say one piece is well written compared to midruto and B(Leach)

Amar
>>112631408

@Zar "Sad thing is Tingz One piece isnt even in my top 5 favorite manga so good try. I do agree though its the #1 shounen." That's what he said under his comment "Bleach a thousand year mid war" Where is the lie? He said not top 5 manga but number 1 shounen learn how to read. Just like u say bleach isn't as good as op I can say op isn't as good as bleach. Stop acting like I randomly out of nowhere hate on op its because of you toxic op fans starting the nonsense. YALL the ones hated on Naruto first so I hated back. If you wouldn't have started it i wouldn't have hated back. Again it's cool when they do it its a problem when I do it lmao. I wouldn't hate if yall wouldn't have hated first. All of this is the op fanbase fault literally. Learn how to hold yourself accountable

Amar
>>112631408

@Sixaxis no one is crying you can't handle that I called out the truth of your hypocrisy, I simply felt the need to call u out. Again like I said I don't bother anyone unless u come for me. Stop acting like I fly off the handle out of nowhere. Again learn how to hold yourself accountable. I swear that's you op fans kryptonite

Silencer
>>112631408

@Zar “it’s not as good as one piece” to you man, enough the superiority complex.

Silencer
>>112608000

He does it better to you, changing those few characters and islands is not comparable to an entire society that has remained rigid and strict for a thousand years. The scope is not the same as there’s levels to this and I’m not a hater just for realizing or recognizing that, nothing I said was hating so I don’t know how you arrived at that. Ichigo does it even more subtly by having people simply witness his actions and unrealistic attitude. You can’t guarantee the future as that was this arcs villains downfall.

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

Lmfao u talking about accountability is hilarious and shounen is the genre dumb fuck it doesn’t mean anime it means he has other mangas over it like monster berserk or whatever he likes with a more serious tone and less childish fantasy like most shounen it doesn’t mean it’s his favorite 😂😂 we didn’t hate on it first again like I said tell me the hating u seen other than people telling them to watch op cause it’s better and that’s backed by facts not feelings. And from the podcast to rrtv itself it’s only been a one way toxic fest people calling in that never seen op shitting on it for Naruto’s sake everyone who seen both picked op but show ed respect to Naruto still while you and many others did nothing but antagonize op fans. Wellz from episode 1 was disrespectful and u expected the op fans to follow and be like yeah he’s cool. Of course they’re going to attack his favorite show and call out his hypocrisy when it comes to judging both that’s what comes with a reaction channel you’re the ones who resort to childish insults about art style when it’s subjective and call out gag characters whos purpose isn’t like buggy or wapol and try to compare them to Madara and obito you guys are disingenuous and the blatant bias of rttv is the reason the op community here is the way it is. It’s not the normal thing like volume 1 jdanime rockdlee it’s never like this in the comments cause it’s no need they love and RESPECT one piece

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

To me and 450 million more people 💀 it’s like comparing ed edd eddy to SpongeBob yeah both are great but one is obviously better and more successful but it’s okay if people like ed edd eddy more cause it’s a preference but you can’t deny tbd status of SpongeBob

Zar D. Goat
>>112608000

Lmao considering luffy is also changing the world that hasn’t changed in 1000 years along with those islands while literally just being himself. Lmfao how is it more subtly the point is luffy is more grand but he’s not going out of his way he’s just doing what he wants and being free he has no obligation to save these people like a marine

Zar D. Goat
>>112608000

He does it better cause On top changing the WORLD not just one place like the SS by just his actions and unrelenting attitude like he did with robin in alabasta or or the samurai of wano or the people of dressrosa or even katakuri he also has a deeper side and talks to characters like Momo and vivi etc so since he does both well on a large scale it’s better

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

Tingz you tell me where you were mentioned in this comment chain and you'll have a point. And Exrial shits on One Piece as well, and I laugh at it. So no, you don't have a point. But keep going off thinking you're hot shit. Can't wait till Bleach is over and then I don't have to read your dumb comments anymore.

Silencer
>>112631408

I already proved to you which anime garnered more interest in popularity and preference and it wasn’t one piece globally, those 450 or 500 million doesn’t represent the majority as reality isn’t what you think it is. One piece has the sales, but Bleach has the influence and iconicity that it’ll never have. Bleach never needed comparable sales to be successful.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

You said a whole bunch of nothing I stopped reading as soon as you tried to claim it’s anime as the reason for Narutos title in the big 3 when it’s solely based off manga sales cause ding ding ding u guessed that’s the most important part. Lmfao u made all that anime dub bs up dbz ended right before one piece and Naruto started so it’s not apart of anything they’re is not anime impact like I said Naruto and one piece at the sand tins in America I didn’t give to wait cause it wasn’t around or anything it had 2 dubs. Talking about pacing and then saying it’s better when in fact it’s not it’s not tbd case for the manga it’s just anime thing cause if filler not cause actual story. Only thing that could’ve saved op pacing is if it wasn’t so successful and had the chance to slow down to but again op is the best paced manga everyone talks about how fast it reads. And again I love this argument that Japan is obsessed with op but you don’t think hella manga take inspiration from oda? And please tell me Naruto started all the tropes it’s used right and none of these new gen are also inspired by the same shit. Naruto isn’t original to Japanese people and that’s why it didn’t sell like one piece that unlike Naruto that uses a bunch of Japanese lore that they’re tired of but America are up op focuses on the entire world and taking inspiration from many cultures and that’s why it’s better than the one dimensional Naruto or bleach

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

Lmfao yes it does without sales it wouldn’t be labeled the big 3 in the first place 💀 and again one piece inspired plenty niggas are literally watching fairytale rn op jr and black clover mangaka said oda was his inspiration as well as bleach lmao all the big 3 are influential

Seal
>>112521293

Refer to me by the username that you see Mr. Slanderer before I have to report you again. Anyway you need reading skills since I said “which of course can be broken and freed from” implying that I have broken out of that terrible habit a long time ago, but nice try. I’ve never been bullied by anyone enough to be made racist, you would be brain dead to think or believe that. Besides that, Bleach TYBW has recently been broadcasted on ESPN https://www.reddit.com/r/bleach/comments/14jenmi/bleach_on_the_news/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 and has been talked about by many celebrities. Other than that, what art museums has one piece ever been displayed in and who are these book tubers that say One piece as well written compared to Naruto or Bleach? Please provide links if you can and if you’re actually serious.

Amar
>>112631408

@Sixaxis it doesn't matter. Were u mentioned in this comment chain? No. Give me proof of exrial shitting on OP. Calling characters mid doesn't count and isn't hating on the show. Again making excuses like Zar. I very much do have a point. Bleach isn't my only fav show ima still be here. I'm only this way because of u OP fans it's always war with the big 3. With other shows besides the big 3 I comment on and I'm not toxic. I'm only toxic in response to yall being toxic first. You don't have to pay any mind to my comments. My comments aren't like this on any other shows like I said its always wars with OP Naruto Bleach

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

It does matter "People call me toxic but I only go off when someone starts with me first. Other than that im chill" -Tingz. Where did someone start with you in this comment chain? I didn't say that shit. You're just inserting yourself in here when some of us were having a good laugh at Exrial and Eon going off on each other. And you don't comment on other shows because you fucked off after months of complaining and only came back to Bleach. So once Bleach is gone, you'll fuck off again. And you're describing as if you have to act this way because of One Piece fans. How soft are you letting internet comments get you this way and saying they made you this way.

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2023-07-11 20:37:54 @Zar Then explain how Bleach became part of the Big3 since it seemingly never had a comparable sales, even when it was at its best back in the day? It’s clearly due to longevity as it wouldn’t be a big one to begin with if it didn’t have the amount of ongoing chapters that it did at the time, which is ironic cause since it has the least amount of content within its chapters only proving that Kubo’s philosophy Less is less with poetry in motion does work out in the end. And you only listed 2 series that OP inspired whereas, Bleach has 3: JJK, demon slayer and black clover, regardless of that last one being shared.
2023-07-11 18:12:30 @Zar Then explain how Bleach became part of the Big3 since it seemingly never had comparable sales, even when it was at it’s best back in the day? It’s clearly due to longevity and cultural impact as it wouldn’t be a big one to begin with if it didn’t have the amount of ongoing chapters that it did at the time as well as breaking cultural barriers for anime, which is ironic cause since it has the least amount of content within its chapters only proving that Kubo’s philosophy Less is less with poetry in motion does work out in the end. And you only listed 2 series that OP inspired whereas, Bleach has 3: JJK, demon slayer and black clover, regardless of that last one being shared.
>>112631408

@Zar Then explain how Bleach became part of the Big3 since it seemingly never had comparable sales, even when it was at it’s best back in the day? It’s clearly due to longevity and cultural impact as it wouldn’t be a big one to begin with if it didn’t have the amount of ongoing chapters that it did at the time as well as breaking cultural barriers for anime, which is ironic cause since it has the least amount of content within its chapters only proving that Kubo’s philosophy Less is less with poetry in motion does work out in the end. And you only listed 2 series that OP inspired whereas, Bleach has 3: JJK, demon slayer and black clover, regardless of that last one being shared.

MM
>>112631408

I thought the big 3 was the big 3 cause they become extremely popular in the United States and blew anime up over here

Silencer
>>112608000

When was it ever stated that one piece’s world hasn’t changed in 1000 years, isn’t the void century like only 800 years ago or something? Regardless, Ichigo is literally also just being himself as a natural born protector looking out for others, even tho it caused a traumatic experience wi the loss of his mother to where he couldn’t find forgiveness and acceptance, but rather trying to escape it by getting involved in others problems until just recently. It’s more so subtle cause people like you don’t even realize he’s changing the world at all to begin with in the first place yet it’s been in front of your faces the whole time. SS had a longer history of rigidness and regimes, so regardless of being just one place as opposed to the whole world, it’s more impressive. As for who did it better? we’ll see you on both ends indefinitely. I’ll go with the one that most people can’t seem to recognize or appreciate as being more subtle.

Amar
>>112631408

@Sixaxis I responded to @Marcus nonsense and I said what the fuck I said, his comment had something to do with me. You're having a good laugh over toxic behavior yet if I display that same behavior it's an issue. Again the hypocrisy. I definitely comment on other shows let's see AOT, My hero, the list goes on how you gonna tell me what all I comment on. I may not comment on every reaction because I have a life I'm not on here 24/7. I unsub and resub as I feel. When bleach is over I'm coming back in September for Naruto. I'm not glued on here like you peons. If what you say about me is true "OP fans let me act this way and I'm so soft" then I wouldn't unsub for months at a time I'd still be on here every month going off on people but the reality is that I don't give a fuck about any of you bitches your opinion is irrelevant and if you honestly think internet comments make me a certain way? Last thing I am is soft lmfao. Reevaluate yourself idgaf about none of this shit. Comments from people idk don't make me a certain type of way. I am who I am

REFORMED
>>112608000

Bro doesn’t know how long void century . Get the fuck outta here speedwatcher. Soul society is just one sector and is insignificant compared to the world government control in one piece of the Whole earth which is way bigger then SS. Not to mention the world government is way more corrupt and actually destroys whole countries unlike bleach. You can’t compare soul society and the world government since world government does way more cruel acts and control. Literally Aizen almost solod soul society so they ain’t worth shit LOL. And sos did ywatch. You would never catch the world government slipping like fodder Soul society

Silencer
>>112631408

@Marcus Well for the most part yeah basically, primarily for Naruto and Bleach since the one piece anime was the last one to start and it started in the worst damned way among them with the 4kids dub. When Naruto and Bleach successfully started in 2005 and 2006 respectively, DBZ was still airing even if it was just reruns and finishing it’s movies, so those 3 in particular due to having a successful dubs breaking cultural barriers became known as the Big3 dubbed ANIME, until it became revealed years later that one piece was actually a part it of due to its sales and longevity from its manga which wasn’t a popular medium at all back then, as well as the fact that DBZ was basically already over. Mind you this was only the case in the US, everywhere else already knew firsthand what the Big3 of anime was but they never really bought into the idea since to them it implies that they’re the “3 best series” when it really just has to do with popularity through their sales, cultural impacts through their animes and longevity through both mediums as being big in the literal sense.

REFORMED
>>112631408

Bro argued in this comment for literally 24 hrs straight and be like : I hAvE a LiFe!!11!! Just admit you can’t resub because you dirt poor living on section 8 collecting those food stamps. There’s a reason why every bleach fan I’ve met irl has no neck, works at dollar tree , and smells worst then a smash bros tournament

Seal
>>112631408

This Mf Exrial really just described every one piece fanatic without even realizing, good job. 🤣👍 Other than that gotta say, i’ve known people that had section 8 collecting food stamps and it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re poor, just other personal complications behind the scenes or that they need it similar to Social Security. The fact that you think that only applies to the poor proves that you need some serious mental help, regardless if that’s satire trolling or not.

Silencer
>>112608000

That’s why I asked the question, it’s an intricate part of one piece story as a detailed one and I’m not gonna have that at the top of my head at all times so I fail to see how that makes me a “speedwatcher”. Speaking of which you must’ve done that for Bleach, or probably not at all and only follows the trends with thinking that Bleach has poor or lack of proper world building because if you paid attention or actually read the manga, you would know how insanely corrupt SS truly is, or anything about Central 46, it’s exactly why Aizen became the way that he is and wanted to take the place of the Soul King. Mayuri literally in the 3rd episode of this arc took the lives of 28,000 people casually just to restore the balance of souls, they literally run the way reality goes and that’s far more than just acts of control with mere countries. Also, please explain to me what you mean exactly by “fodder” in this context, surely you’re not implying Bleach is the weaker verse here? then again you’re a troll, so wouldn’t be surprised.

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

You're soft as fuck my guy. As soon as the first Bleach episode was posted, you started fighting in the comments. Didn't even take a day. And then you blame One Piece fans for making you that way. If you didn't care about other people's opinions like you claim, you wouldn't be here.

MM
>>112631408

I agree you a little sensitive man but it’s all good hahaha

Seal
>>112631408

@Sixaxis I have a question and be honest, why are you even here? Cause last I checked you don’t even watch Bleach anymore. You just love to lurk where there’s drama, huh?

Seal
>>112522736

You say that I said a “whole bunch of nothing”, and yet you stopped reading without understanding where I’m coming from yet still decided to write that big ass paragraph? That’s some riveting stuff there buddy, more than likely, you did read at least a good chunk of it. Either way it’s clear you don’t know the earliest history of the Big3 as it technically does also apply to their anime adaptations believe it or not, in fact, that’s how they mostly got it, besides one piece since the anime was considered a flopping failure due to the 4kids dub as well as the art style not feeling very anime like and just generally out of place. So it needed its sales for it to really count and speak for itself as worth a damn, so I guess I understand where you’re coming from, it’s a shame you can’t say the same with me. The Big3 in America started after Bleach had started to air in late 2006, Naruto and Bleach both had successful debuts with their animes and during that time DBZ was airing reruns as well as finishing up the remainder of his movies, they were the only and easily the biggest animes to make it on the mainstream anime map and broke cultural barriers beyond just the US for a short while until Toonami was initially canceled on CN in late 2008, leaving only Bleach behind to flourish and gain even greater exposure being the only OG left until Toonami returned in 2012 and once they brought back OG Naruto in 2013 and started airing Shippuden in 2014, as well as DBZ Kai by the end of that same year, it just reinforced that they were the Big3 dubbed anime of the US, even tho everyone else knew that it was one piece apart of it, and not DBZ, but when Toonami decided to bring One piece on, it was canceled not long after due to low viewership and ratings. It wasn’t until Wano and especially when they brought one piece back in the last couple years that it started to prove that it was actually always a part of the Big3 to the US, and internationally Bleach as well thanks to TYBW proving to those that always questioned or doubted whether it was actually deserved to be a part of it after being gone for so long and having its reputation shot, so to be fair it wasn’t just with one piece that was doubted, Naruto was the only one that was clearly recognized as a part of it, even after all these years of being over, it’s still being talked about, and that alone speaks for itself, and I don’t believe it started all the tropes as that would be DBZ as far as the genre is concerned. You can do the research and look at this all up if you want. So you can disrespect Naruto and Bleach all you want with that “One dimensional” or “isn’t original” shit, but they’ve already been cemented in history and more iconic than one piece will ever be with their animes adaptations as the final product for the general and casual masses. The one piece manga can have all the sales it wants, but unless the manga medium becomes more mainstream and popular than the anime medium, it won’t matter globally at the end of the day, remember that. Oh and No, I don’t think many manga take inspiration from Oda as it sure as hell hasn’t shown that yet since Oda doesn’t know when the hell to end it already, it’s become torture even with the top tier animation trying to copy DBZ.

Amar
>>112631408

Bitch you soft the fuck lmao look at how u acting and what you're saying. You're the epitome of hypocrisy. Funny how you aren't holding exrial accountable "A thousand year mid war" and I respond to him. Now if I commented talking shit randomly you would have a point. Yall are the reason. Yall start shit I end it then u wanna throw rocks and hide your hands and claim I'm the bad guy. You messy like a female. All over these comments snooping and shit on a show that u don't even like as @Batron said

Amar
>>112631408

Love how miserable bitches see words on the internet and wanna call me soft lmao acting like u know my life you don't know me from a can of paint

Amar
>>112631408

@Marcus sensitive is all the OP fans who couldn't handle wellz opinion. They all cried when he trashed it calling it one trash and said bleach and Naruto is better. Even the fans told him to drop it cuz they see he hated it. They hate on shows but when ppl hate on op they cry. That's what Sixaxis does. He's sensitive not me

REFORMED
>>112522736

This mf so retarded😂you judge material by a source aka manga. That’s why in Japan manga is mainstream even more then anime . Nobody gives a fuck about American sales because it’s so insignificant. I mean if you want to talk about anime then why has demon slayer in only 5 years made more revenue then bleach has in its 16 year run? That’s actually sad. By your logic we should judge dbz and games of thrones off the live action or judginf fate stay by the anime and not the game 😂 at the end of the day the manga is the authors vision of their work not the anime. Plus manga is just superior to anime due to anime being handicapped based on studios. If you think other wise your just a low iq inbred who doesn’t read

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

I showed up because Marcus made a good comment. It had nothing to do with Bleach. And keep saying you're not sensitive Tingz, look at all the comments you made when someone mocks a show you like. Truly showing that it's not affecting you at all. Dude might as well change his name to Charmin.

Amar
>>112631408

@ExBITCHrial lmfao bitch are you stupid? Serious question. You should be a comedian that was funny. I'm so broke and poor yet I've been supporting them since 2019 kick rocks. A Bleach fan irl would look a lot doper than a mid piece fan lol let's not go in real life. I unsub and resub so the fuck what it's my money my decision. If a motherfucker wanna stop supporting their hard earned money every month then they have every right. And if they wanna come back they can. I come back when the start my favorite shows for example TYBW returns. After it ends I'm leaving and returning for Naruto in September. I come and go because I don't watch every single show on here

Amar
>>112631408

@Midaxis again you're a hypocrite that's all I have to say. You're sensitive. If I bring up receipts of the OP slander by RTTV you're gonna pop a blood vessel. You doing the same shit i do.. arguing about anime. You've done it with "Eon" in the past. So you are no different stop acting holier than thou

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2023-07-11 23:43:46 @marcus No it’s not lmfao the one piece anime came out before before 2005/6 what tf is this dude talking about the my guy the title big 3 cause if the manga sales nothing to did with anime op anime was out in q 1999 idiot way to just lie to prove your fake point of anime&gt;manga the title has nothing to do with it cause bleach was nowhere near Naruto or dbz level of exposure. Bleach mad it in the big 3 like I said I’m cause it was selling comparable to Naruto and op by volume at that time but it want as consistent and the ending was poorly done so it fell off. It’s sales were far ahead of other basic shit but it wasn’t selling like op and for a reason
2023-07-11 21:21:35 @marcus No it’s not lmfao the one piece anime came out before before 2005/6 what tf is this dude talking about the my guy the title big 3 cause if the manga sales nothing to did with anime op anime was out in q 1999 idiot way to just lie to prove your fake point of anime>manga the title has nothing to do with it cause bleach was nowhere near Naruto or dbz level of exposure. Bleach mad it in the big 3 like I said I’m cause it was selling comparable to Naruto and op by volume at that time but it want as consistent and the ending was poorly done so it fell off. It’s sales were far ahead of other basic shit but it wasn’t selling like op and for a reason
>>112631408

@marcus No it’s not lmfao the one piece anime came out before before 2005/6 what tf is this dude talking about the my guy the title big 3 cause if the manga sales nothing to did with anime op anime was out in q 1999 idiot way to just lie to prove your fake point of anime>manga the title has nothing to do with it cause bleach was nowhere near Naruto or dbz level of exposure. Bleach mad it in the big 3 like I said I’m cause it was selling comparable to Naruto and op by volume at that time but it want as consistent and the ending was poorly done so it fell off. It’s sales were far ahead of other basic shit but it wasn’t selling like op and for a reason

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

Yeah you’re such a bitch dude wellz wasn’t having a respected opinion he openly admitted his bias and trolled op constantly and you’re talking about the response from op Fans and then in the same breath talking about it’s okay to be toxic of the other person his first so what it is? Looks like op fans are just doing self defense while y’all Narutards took unfair and not true shits at op.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

Yeah that’s just all lies the op anime came out in 99 4 kids dub was bad but not hated like you say and it came back before and has 2 different dubs and the sub was always amazing like I said you saying the Americans adapted it better at first literally means nothing with all the other mediums to digest it

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

Where am I acting holier than thou? I know what I'm doing exactly. Bring up receipts, I don't care dude. Your word of the day is hypocrite but it's a shame you're not applying it to yourself. The difference between you and me is that I don't take this seriously at all.

Seal
>>112522736

@Exrial Your insults are so meaningless that it’s crazy, saying I don’t read and calling me retarded is rich coming from you since you clearly don’t properly read anyone’s comments. I literally just said starting that middle paragraph with THE BIG3 IN AMERICA, giving the rundown of it’s history in how it is in the US and pretty much the whole western world, which is easily bigger than just Japan and some eastern countries, at best you could say it’s split 50/50 down the middle with one side preferring manga as that’s part of their culture, and they don’t have time to watch TV, and the other preferring anime and the reason we prefer anime is cause it’s the more marketable and consumer friendly medium, as well as the final product of any work, not everyone cares to read their entertainment, doesn’t mean that they can’t, they’re just indifferent towards it, however even if we go by the source material, which I do in fact read as I’ve already said before, sales literally never meant anything but popularity, not quality. One piece has quality but nowhere near to degree or extent that you mfs make it out to be, and that’s what you people need to accept. Something can be as simple and generic as hell, as proven by demon slayer, and have more sales than well-established series, as it doesn’t just have more sales than Bleach, but also Berserk and JoJos and no one in the right mind would dare to think that DS is more quality or better written than either of those highly regarded series as the real top of the entire manga medium, that would make someone truly retarded and legitimately braindead, or at best as you say “low iq inbred” to believe so, which is exactly what you are since I know that’s how you feel about JoJos thinking it’s mostly “mid” with only one or two 10/10 arcs, like I said, you’re literally the whole 🎪 If anything, I’m glad DS got more sales than them cause it just proves my point even further, it literally blew up in popularity after it’s anime with animation as the final product for the general and casual masses, and the manga only proves that even further. A popular YouTuber even mentioned this https://youtu.be/3I6eTBEKNiA carefully listen to that video if you haven’t. Sales have never been a measurement/metric of quality.

Seal
>>112522736

@Zar I know when the OP anime came out, but don’t act like you or anyone of us was watching it from the start before it made its way to the US or at least online in the mid-2000s at the earliest. As for the 4kids dub, you should know it did more damage than good, but if not, it’s more than you’ll ever know. Best believe if it wasn’t for that at least one piece would’ve had a chance to make it in the US from the jump despite it’s art style and length instead of only now recently becoming main stream after 15 to 20 years, which is exactly why you need to understand that nothing that becomes mainstream now, regardless of the quality will ever overshadow what’s already iconic. Hell, even JoJos became mainstream and iconic before one piece here despite its anime only started in 2012.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

That’s literally just another lie nobody knows what tf jojos is unles u watch anime it’s not mainstream at all more people know of one piece cause it was literally main stream in 2004 same time as Naruto and bleach.. because of manga sales lmao that’s how they decide what to put out and exactly if anime culture was what it is today with streaming sites op would be way bigger and that’s not even fair to the comp

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

https://reelrundown.com/animation/Big-Three-Shounen-The-Phrase-That-Has-Lost-Its-Meaning

Seal
>>112631408

@Sixaxis I just wanna say, I’ve never come across anyone as serious and seemingly miserable, or at best bored as you. You don’t strike me as anyone that’s just here for shits and giggles as entertainment, even if that’s the case, you come off as a bored lurker and feeder of drama.

Zar D. Goat
>>112521293

They compare oda to Tolkien GRRM and Sanderson nobody worried bleach or Naruto you’re just the weird one who thinks one piece is below or comparable to the other 2 when writing wise it’s way more consistent with a better plot progression and characterization. U my friend is in t minority and trying to act like it’s us that need to wake up when it’s U

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

How is him laughing at a troll him be serious you and tings throwing around the word hypocrisy is hella ironic

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

https://reelrundown.com/animation/Big-Three-Shounen-The-Phrase-That-Has-Lost-Its-Meaning

Seal
>>112631408

Is it obvious that he’s laughing? cause it sure as hell doesn’t seem like it. Now Please tell me exactly where that I use that word at all. Also did you even read that link? It’s a completely subjective piece and doesn’t really prove any point you’re trying to make.

Zar D. Goat
>>112521293

But u could easily look up Daniel Greene Murphy Napier totally not Marc all people with no bias who unabashedly praise one piece and oda. Maybe u need another watch through to actually understand what’s going on and the scales of the story. It’s a reason people say it’s a modern day epic. You talking about pacing and not finishing are 2 different things when it comes to the anime and manga op would’ve been better off if oda didn’t have to illustrate it cause it goes more like GOT or LOTR yet you’re comparing it to bleach simply cause manga sales in the mid 2000s were above all the others plus it the the length to compare it else shows like fma would be considered big 3 instead of bleach cause the anime was more popular for sure same as death note

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

It’s not subjective 💀 it tells u that the big 3 are named from manga success and length not anime

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

And yes it’s obvious he was laughing cause he literally said the shit was funny 💀😂

Seal
>>112522736

One piece was mainstream only in Japan in those days, at best It was simply popular here, but not mainstream. Anyway “nobody knows what tf jojos is unless you watch anime, it’s not mainstream at all” Uh huh https://youtu.be/U0TXIXTzJEY sure buddy. A video with this many views known by no one but anime fans, yep totally. Mind you the original had 134 million views before being taken down due to copyright and was the most viewed anime OST in history. Also credits to a friend of mine for providing this but once again, here at JoJos accolades https://twitter.com/shambalatruth/status/1670257024607584257?s=61&t=1VigzxkX26iJZItobY59WA As for you link, I don’t think you read it at all, it’s a complete subjective piece that doesn’t really prove anything.

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>>112631408

The person who wrote it literally gave their opinion on certain things if you read it completely. I never denied that it came from Manga success and length, but anime also played a major part in it, especially anywhere outside of Japan. It’s you who’s acting like it’s strictly just those two reasons and that it’s a global when it’s not. If you want to take his word for it, go right ahead but it sure as hell wasn’t obvious.

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

How is one piece not global? It came to America 20 years ago not 7 it has 184 million copies sold outside of Japan that’s more than all of bleach the 4kids dub is only 1 part of the anime the sun was always good and the animation was always good especially for the time it was never on no 7ds type shit.

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

Naruto only sold 97 mil outside of Japan that’s less than half stop acting like it’s global and one piece isn’t the world isnt just Japan and America 😂

Seal
>>112631408

It was popular from the jump, but it was never mainstream on the level of Naruto and Bleach internationally, and that’s the critical difference you’re not getting. The 4kids dub was how one piece was introduced to the US and the whole western world, that held it back more than it already would have with its unusual cartoony art style for an anime and it’s slower pacing even back then compared to the rest. Like I already said, sales have never been a metric/measurement of quality, only popularity of interest which can be both positive and negative. If it was a measurement of quality, then that means DS is somehow better than Berserk, JoJos, and Bleach as the very series that inspired it, no one in the right mind believes that, it’s animation is the only thing it has over any of them and with Bleach TYBW they’re in league in that department or at least about to be. I was never acting like the world is only Japan and America, they’re just the two main sources, Japan is the birthplace and source of manga, while America is the main source consumer of anime, besides Europe.

Amar
>>112498727

very first OP reaction is the receipts go check, done wit this convo :)

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

Dude if you don't find anything about this hilarious that's on you. I'm watching you meltdown about people clowning on Bleach and Naruto and you begging a group of people to remove his comments. This is better entertainment than Bleach itself.

Amar
>>112631408

@Zar now its bias and all this other goofy shit ok whatever, lets ignore everyone hypying the shit up hyping their expectactions and constantly comparing it to naruto lol im done here with all you hoes I'm done with this shit these threads getting too damn long. Agree to disagree yall. Honestly not that deep. Hope this is the last time i go back and forth with yall. Sad i take a break and i come back and aint shit changed. Sad ting

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

It’s always been bias he literally would say it & call himself a narutard you guys were just the weirdos acting like it wasn’t op had to come back from being the underdog and still surpassed expectations welcome back buddy I hope you’re here in August 😉😉

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>>112631408

If you call any of my comments as a form of a “meltdown” I don’t know what to tell you, but then again, if you consider this to be somehow better entertainment than Bleach itself that sounds like a you problem and explains your backwards childish mentality. I wasn’t begging them to remove his comments, it was simply requesting it due to toxicity for the betterment of the community, I’m simply tired of all this, but this is a Bleach post, so I’m not about to let fans of other series shit talk it and have the last word. Now Gtfoh, Stop lurking and focus on what makes you happy instead of joining in on these BS Internet arguments. If anyone genuinely finds this hilarious, they’re just a child. Nothing more. We didn’t come here to argue but it’s clear peoples “critiques” of what they would dare to call it is nothing but blatant hate and trolling that will always get backlash and contested no matter what..

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>>112498727

This just made me realize one piece should’ve never become mainstream, at least not in the US.

Seal
>>112521293

I genuinely don’t care as at the end of the day, that’s only their personal opinion as what appeals to their sensibilities through lightheartedness and the execution of the way one piece does it. I’ve watched one piece over twice and read the manga, it’s a great well written story and a great series, but a modern day epic would only be in terms of length and the journey, nothing else. For every strength one piece has there is a weakness. What you call “better plot progression” is nothing but snails pace progression, what you call “better characterization” is nothing but quantity characterization, what you call “more consistent” is nothing but peak repetition. As far as anime is concerned, one piece has always, and will forever be below the other two and that’s not my opinion, that’s just simply the reality. “shows like fma would be considered big3 instead of Bleach, because of the anime was more popular for sure, same as death note”, this makes literally no sense whatsoever as they don’t have the length longevity and cultural impact that Bleach had. Just say you hate Naruto and Bleach as it would be easier and we could be done with this. The reality is even Bleach with merely the word Ban-Kai is more iconic than one pieces entire existence.

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

You're telling me all these comments arguing with multiple people and trying to clear critiques is you in your sound mind? Lurking would be me just reading comments, I'm responding, making comments. Sorry that I find your meltdown enjoyable, but it is what it is.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

No way u just tagged me in that bs Lmfao “best arc, best art style, best power system” none of those are accolades just opinions of a fan and the only reason it was in the museum was cause the collaboration with Jump and it wasn’t the only manga l to be shown it just had its own section like the other ones did lmfao bro that video was actually funny af most streamed ost? Like what dude? Carried jump for 20 years? literally one piece has been doing that on a way bigger scale with much more comp and dragons ball definitely ran the 80s/90s. You’re literally just lying to you’re self one piece was obviously mainstream if it was picked up by the… mainstream media lmao you didn’t have to stream it or find it online cause again… IT WAS ON MAINSTREAM MEDIA ALREADY!! U not liking it isn’t mainstream. U are the true downplayer/lowballer lmao I don’t have to lie about others success cause ours speak for itself.

Zar D. Goat
>>112521293

U don’t care yet you asked for the names lmao u just assuming why they like it like it’s no other reason is hilarious and wrong af it’s apart of the charm but not the entire thing.peak repetition would be Naruto villains and bs broken hero trope one piece is so diverse it’s crazy to even say that all your doing is hating and saying it’s facts when other people think differently so it’s not a fact. A fact would be one piece is more successful than bleach and Naruto the opinion would by why it’s more successful. Luffys straw hat is more iconic than anything in bleach 💀😂

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

You’re definitely having a meltdown that people think one piece is better than bleach and jojos you always do

Zar D. Goat
>>112498727

I just did and it looks like the fans were happy and encouraging af at least on YouTube 💀nothing to do with Naruto except for saying the difference between luffy and Naruto

Zar D. Goat
>>112498727

You gotta be either bold stupid or both to tell someone to look at the comments without checking if they’re toxic

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>>112631408

A real meltdown would be someone so in their feelings that they don’t even know how to type correctly/properly, and talking about nothing but their feelings as well as cursing and showing raw emotion even through text. One of the best things about me personally is that I’ve been told I’m unreadable in person, and that’s even more so online, but if you wanna know how I feel, I’m genuinely just mentally nauseatingly tired of this shit more than anything cause you people just don’t know when to stop and just enjoy what they enjoy without bringing another series down, now mind you I’m typing while on a mobile device still outside multitasking doing what I usually do so I can’t even imagine if I was indoors in a room dealing with this nonstop like many to most other certain people do, maybe then I would be having a real meltdown. And you still lurk as you respond at the most random times and come out of nowhere getting involved when your input is never needed.

Seal
>>112631408

@Zar It’s not about anyone who thinks one piece is better than anything, it’s about those who present it as fact while simultaneously shitting on those other series, that’s what I have a problem with. Bleach and JoJos aren’t even my favorite series, but I’ll be damned if somebody’s going to bring them down shit talking them in favor of another series as if it’s a fact.

Zar D. Goat
>>112631408

But u don’t have a problem vice versa because you’re a biased hypocrite pushing your own personal agenda

MM
>>112631408

The amount of copium you have to be consuming to think that going on these long tangents pontificating on your “reasons” for doing things/explaining things isn’t you feeling some type of way is just wild to me bruh lmao!

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>>112522736

How about you actually do some research and look them on them up based on ratings and how people compare it to other series? I’m not gonna do all the handholding for you. You said there were others that had their own section, list those other series as none of them also worked with fashion brands. I just gave you some proof of one of the most streamed themes, that’s just one of them. Clearly you didn’t read where it said ultra jump which is the Seinen branch, part of which is the one to have the best arc and art style based on reception. DB and JoJos popped off at the same time manga wise. The thing is that JoJos never had an anime until 2012 so it couldn’t be Mainstream all the way back then, but when it finally got it, it sure as hell didn’t take very long. I’m not downplaying/lowballing anything here, that’s literally just you with all these other series so now you’re just projecting, if it’s success truly spoke for itself, then we wouldn’t need to go back-and-forth and we wouldn’t be having this conversation as it would be undeniable. One piece didn’t become part of the mainstream anime map until 2021 leading up to Ep 1000, before that it was just generally popular and mainstream specifically within the anime and online communities.

Silencer

300 comments. Just Wow. This Patreon truly is the Wild West.

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>>112521293

Yeah I asked for the names over 8 hours prior to that comment, I simply stopped caring. Whatever their reasoning for liking it, it’s their opinion, so doesn’t even really matter at the end of the day? They’re just content creators, not people in the literature industry. Naruto’s repetition is next to nothing before one piece’s repetition of going to an island, finding that it’s corrupt and under control, get to know the people and giving literally everyone backstory, trying to fight the evil regime, beat them and free the country, rinse and repeat. So unoriginally transpired. Other people can think and feel differently, but that doesn’t mean that the facts change, and the fact here is one piece has become a little too mainstream for its own good with both the anime and manga now being successful and it’s communities being as toxic as DB back in the day, shitting on all these other series when they’re in the league and we’re already cemented in history before it. And Luffy’s Strawhat has nothing on Bankai, let alone all of Bleach, but of course only an OPtard would dare to think so.

Seal
>>112631408

@Zar The pot calling the kettle black as it’s safe to say you’re the most biased here. I haven’t done anything hypocritical, and if it was up to me I’d rather not be arguing at all, so I don’t see where’s the agenda. @Marcus Bruh… it was literally just 1 comment explanation which you clearly didn’t read, and I haven’t even been the main or longest one arguing here so your comment confuses me.

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

You don't need to swear or type incorrectly to have a meltdown, it's you constantly attacking people for having differing opinions than yours and critiques against shows you enjoy. It's okay for people to dislike something you like ya know? And I can say your input is never needed, who's the judge on that matter? If you were truly tired of this, like you've said in the past many many times, you would stop responding instead you feel compelled to because you can't handle anyone critiquing a show you like.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

💀💀💀 stfu 2021 lmfao man smd I’m done talking to you you’re just in denial and lying to yourself yes others had their in section meaning the reason for it being in the museum wasn’t because of itself but cause it was part of the manga company being displayed and cool one piece collaborated w Gucci cause it’s Iconic not some little niche goofy anime only lived in Japan like u say

Seal
>>112631408

So defending is attacking now? The worst thing about all this is that it’s not even really critiquing like I said, that’s just what someone would dare to label it at best when it’s actually just blatant trolling and hating in favor of other series, when they could just be enjoying those said series, but no they gotta hate on what’s popular and mainstream just for the hell of it. If it was just simply critiquing, I would barely respond if at all. Then again of course, you falsely label and accuse others for someone who’s not even here and think we’re all the same person, so their actions don’t reflect my own which you don’t notice and instead just go off of some BS preconceived notion based on similar or the “exact same” typing patterns that never tells you who someone truly is. Almost 2 years for me on here and you’re either obsessed with this billion named individual or got PTSD from. Like let it go or just get off from here.

Seal
>>112522736

Yes 2021 when it actually made it on the mainstream anime map by having casuals and people who have never heard about anime actually start to know about what one piece is, I know that’s hard to believe but it’s the reality. Where is your proof for this? Especially with one piece collaborating Gucci? Regardless, JoJos been that as well as being shown at the lavoure. Now You say you’re done talking to me but how much you wanna bet your ass you’re about to respond to this very comment? 🤣

Sixaxis112
>>112631408

You see if it wasn't so obvious that you have multiple accounts, I would believe you. But you're so bad at hiding the fact, along with mistakenly using your other accounts to reply to me in the past that I'll never believe you. You like how other people on this Patreon and your twitter that you linked both called you out for having multiple accounts? It isn't just me my guy. And it is critiquing, not just because it's popular. When people shit on one piece for being goofy or not killing people that's their critique, I'm not going to write multiple essays fighting them about it. Multiple people shit on Vinland for getting rid of action, but that's okay. People have their preferences. The difference between you and me is that I don't go out of my way to fight people about it (and it's fighting in this case because you constantly say that people are trolling and that your opinion is the fact or truth) But I'm kind of done talking to you for the night, see you on Saturday for the next meltdown.

Zar D. Goat
>>112522736

Google the Gucci collab you fucking idiot why do I need to show proof of something thats an east google search 💀💀

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2023-07-12 17:58:06 Multiple accounts would be possible maybe on YouTube or any other social media but Patreon? That is utterly retarded and nonsensical by the simple fact that you can pay a single Patreon any amount you want without having to pay multiple times, like what in the hell would be the point in having multiple accounts on here? Make it make sense Mf. You’re the main one that I’ve observed spread this BS narrative and that has constantly accused me and others for it more than anyone else, and until you let it go and drop it, it’s never gonna end since you don’t have any proof or confirmation, other than going based off of, just like I said, some similar or “exact same” typing patterns that never tells you who someone actually is, but you can’t seem to get that through your head since that’s just how are you inherently and falsely think like a child. Anyways No, it’s not critiquing, some comments may be like that but the vast majority of it is just either trolling or hating, that’s based on observation which can be the truth, and I just provide the facts based on the series that people can’t seem to grasp. Oh and don’t worry, this “meltdown” won’t be happening this next Saturday again I can promise you that, at least not form me.
2023-07-12 03:50:19 Multiple accounts would be possible maybe on YouTube or any other social media but Patreon? That is utterly retarded and nonsensical by the simple fact that you can pay a single Patreon any amount you want without having to pay multiple times, like what in the hell would be the point in having multiple accounts on here? Make it make sense Mf. You’re the main one that I’ve observed spread this BS narrative and that has constantly accused me and others for it more than anyone else, and until you let it go and drop it, it’s never gonna end since you don’t have any proof or confirmation, other than going based off of, just like I said, some similar or “exact same” typing patterns that never tells you who someone actually is, but you can’t seem to get that through your head since that’s just how are you inherently and falsely think like a child. Anyways No, it’s not critiquing, some comments may be like that but the vast majority of it is just either trolling or hating, that’s based on observation which can be the truth, and I just provide the facts based on the series that people can’t seem to grasp. Oh and don’t worry, this “meltdown” won’t be happening this next Saturday again I can promise you that, at least not from me.
>>112631408

Multiple accounts would be possible maybe on YouTube or any other social media but Patreon? That is utterly retarded and nonsensical by the simple fact that you can pay a single Patreon any amount you want without having to pay multiple times, like what in the hell would be the point in having multiple accounts on here? Make it make sense Mf. You’re the main one that I’ve observed spread this BS narrative and that has constantly accused me and others for it more than anyone else, and until you let it go and drop it, it’s never gonna end since you don’t have any proof or confirmation, other than going based off of, just like I said, some similar or “exact same” typing patterns that never tells you who someone actually is, but you can’t seem to get that through your head since that’s just how are you inherently and falsely think like a child. Anyways No, it’s not critiquing, some comments may be like that but the vast majority of it is just either trolling or hating, that’s based on observation which can be the truth, and I just provide the facts based on the series that people can’t seem to grasp. Oh and don’t worry, this “meltdown” won’t be happening this next Saturday again I can promise you that, at least not from me.

Amar
>>112631408

@Zar "shounen is the genre dumb fuck it doesn’t mean anime it means he has other mangas over it" horror is a genre, thats like someone saying "this is the #1 horror movie" same shit they calling it #1. OP is a shounen. stop grasping at straws and stop dumbing down OP as being his favorite/that he likes it. If he didn't he wouldn't have watched over 1,000 eps of it. you saying it means he has mangas over it is not true, he just said manga wise its not in his top 5 but anime (shounen) wise its #1. Last response here

Amar
>>112713915

Yep unfortunately. If it wasn't for the toxic hypocrites. Weird goofy people

Amar
>>112631408

@Sixaxis "I cant wait till Bleach is over so I don't see your dumb comments anymore" well you don't like Bleach right? So why the fuck are you snooping in the comment section then anyways? They shouldn't concern you. I usually comment about the reaction, i only argue when provoked...like in this comment section which Exrial can get away with everything, god forbid if i respond then im the bad guy. "As soon as Bleach drops you're fighting in the comment section" how about as soon as Bleach drops, Exrial commented FIRST out of nowhere calling Bleach mid being negative. There would be no me "fighting in the comments" if it wasn't for him. Like he isn't fighting either right? He's so innocent lmfao. Again, ignoring the mid piece fan who started it but blaming me as the bad guy when Exrial initiated everything, that's the problem with you mid piece fans. Hypocrisy hypocrisy hypocrisy I'll keep saying it. But it is what it is. Last response here. Have a good day

Seal
>>112522736

Just checked it out and regardless, like I said, JoJos been done that as well as being shown at real art museums + has its own anime world gallery. Anyways like I said, always remember that it took until 2021 for one piece to be put on the Mainstream anime map, which is exactly why throughout 2022 for the first time in its history it supposedly became the most watched/streamed TV show (which means nothing but popularity, not quality anyways) with most casuals and people who aren’t even anime fans realizing that it has 1000+ episodes and trying to catch up and get into it. What? Did you just think that was due sheer coincidence? You never thought to ask yourself why that was the case?

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>>112713915

They can’t handle that Bleach Greatness

Adam Comer

episode 13 and 12 reactions???