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Comments Show 14 - Usually a New Goat (Patreon)

Published:
2019-06-30 18:05:54
Edited:
2019-06-30 18:11:46
Imported:
2021-07

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It's the last day of June! Let's have a chat!

Hear the song He's Gone Away...

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Anonymous

Re 'the C word': it's highly offensive (and is still typically seen as 'the most offensive', but it lacks, in standard British English use, much of the specifically gendered component that makes it so offensive in American English, at least when used about men. The denotation is, I think, identical to "asshole": "an extremely bad or unpleasant person". But 'the C word' is, broadly speaking, lacking the misogynistic connotations that appear to exist in parallel use in US English. British men who I've known to use this word about women have strongly tended to actually hate women. So I think that when British men (at least regularly) use this word about women, they're using almost certainly using it with strong gender connotations and in a misogynistic way. I know British women who use this word about both men and women with equal vigour, and do not have the same concerns about them. TL;DR - this word is not intrinsically a slur in British English, but it is easy to use in misogynistic ways. It's probably best avoided except in context where one is confident of avoiding that risk.

Anonymous

Okay, okay, I was being facetious when I said I *didn't want* to be a Debbie Downer, but...I mean, c'mon. Are you gonna blame me for using any excuse to say "Debbie Downer" in a conversation? You gotta be a real curmudgeon for that phrase to not make you laugh. Oh, regarding internet snuff, the fellows on the Castle Super Beast gaming podcast have discussed their former participation in the internet subculture of watching disgusting, repugnant, or gruesome videos as a show of machismo stoicness in the past, and the reason they broke the habit years ago always stuck with me. Pat has said the moment it happened was when he heard about Two Girls, One Cup and went "That's probably awful, but I bet I could sit through it," watched it, went "Yeah, that's pretty bad I guess" and then realized he had felt NOTHING during the video, leading him deciding it was time to stop and never start again.

Anonymous
>>24271247

Also, three of my comments made it in! I think three made it in last time. This is becoming a bit of A Thing, isn't it?

Anonymous
>>24271140

I have never encountered it with a misogynistic context. It's still reserved as the worst curse word here in Scotland but in general most Scottish people are pretty happy to let you know when you have upset then which probably accounts for it's frequent use up here.

Jason Thompson

Y’all dissing on “The White Powder” are unbelievable! This is a story where a person TURNS INTO SLIME! There’s almost no way for that not to be good! I’d even watch the ‘90s movie “Body Melt” to get more of that except... well... I did say ‘almost’

Anonymous

I know some folks from Ireland, and practically every other word people say over there is the "C-Word". I am not sure about the rest of the U.K., but it would not surprise me if it were not a similar situation, if less extreme in frequency. That's why I did not find it even slightly offensive when Patton said. I thought it was hilarious. That is really interesting on the Mountain Dew front. I did not know it was slang for whiskey, or originally intended as a mixer with it. Funny thing though, when I was a teen my friends and I usually drank Jack Daniels and mixed it with... Mountain Dew. I gave up alcohol as soon as was old enough to legally drink it (which says something about why I was drinking it doesn't it...). But I still do the dew!

Anonymous
>>24280295

Patton put it best. Reach for King's "Grey Matter"--it's "The Novel of the White Powder" instigated by an off can of beer. ...Also, I initially mistyped and wrote "The Novel of the White Power," which sounds VASTLY more insidious and threatening.

Anonymous
>>24280600

Truth be told, when it comes to unhealthy carbonated beverages named for moonshine, I'm a Sundrop kind of guy. I respect a soda that tastes like a lemon/lime flavored caffeine fist punching my tongue. (I may have replied just to type out that last sentence.)

Anonymous

Another connection between Alan Moore and Bauhaus is this terrifying artifact, March of the Sinister Ducks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGL8Fx6SOjg

Jason Thompson

I read the childrens’ poem “Herbert Glerbert” when I was like 8 and was so terrified my parents had to stay awake with me all night. Loss of bodily shape is the (2nd) ultimate horror! (After death of course) You can’t go wrong! http://storytellingcookingandkids.blogspot.com/2009/04/herbert-glerberta-poem-for-national.html?m=1

Anonymous

As for the Appalachian monster, the "Side Hill Gouger" with legs longer on one side of the body, that story parallels the bogus story of the Haggis that Scots enjoy telling to gullible tourists. The story has the Haggis as a hedgehog-like animal living atop steep highland peaks, with legs longer on one side of the body so they can walk in a circle around the peak to graze on heather flowers without rolling down the side. Male haggis have longer legs on their left side and walk clockwise around the mountain, females legs are longer on the right and walk counterclockwise, and that's how they meet. The rest of the story involves catching the haggis in a "haggis bash" which involves beating the ground around the haggis den with a croquet mallet, then snatching them up with a butterfly net when they run out. I saw a loquacious Scot spin this tale for 30 minutes to an enthralled Italian tour group who believed every word.

Anonymous

I loved the goat story! Years ago I had a scary experience with a similarly mundane explanation. I was sitting in my kitchen when I felt someone's finger gently stroke the nape of my neck. I assumed my daughter had snuck up behind me - but then I realized she was at school and I was alone in the house! I looked around but saw nothing, so I went back to reading my book. After a few minutes I felt another touch on my neck! I whipped my hand around to the spot, only to discover it was . . . a comb I had put in the back of my hair that morning - it had slowly come loose and was beginning to slip down my neck. So much for ghostly caresses.

Anonymous

Not for nothing, but the monster that eats ax handles is a real thing -- you and I know them as porcupines. Apparently their cravings for salt will drive them to eat anything that gets sweaty -- canoe paddles, saddles, and, yes, ax handles.

Anonymous

umm Chad, take the credit man and a bow. Whether it takes 2 minutes or 2 years, creating something good and original regardless of the effort and even more so that finds an audience should be acknowledged. As far as it not being historically accurate, well the last time I checked, jackalopes, jersey devils and side hill gougers don’t actually exist. So if you want to take liberties with a traditional bluegrass piece and create something more fun, then as someone who grew up hearing the often deeply depressing songs of that type (and all the others associated with country and its various kin and offspring) I say have at it!

Anonymous

With my newfound knowledge of Mountain Dew’s true purpose, I shall sally forth and get wasted in the name of the fulfillment of said purpose!

Steve

The haggis has legs on one side longer than the other. You can see one in the Kelvingrove in Glasgow. Chris's point about legs is also covered here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_haggis

Steve

Pareidolia! It why see see faces in clouds. Also, Chris, next time you're at my house, check out the faces of Jesus in our bedroom curtains.

Anonymous

Great observation about the Asimov story where the A.I. makes decisions we couldn’t hope to calculate. The premise of A.I. making inscrutable decisions is not novel, but it is an ongoing concern. It’s already a reality in a few settings. For example, see this piece (https://qz.com/1146753/ai-is-now-so-complex-its-creators-cant-trust-why-it-makes-decisions/) from a couple years ago. Neural networks often develop emergent properties, and machine learning algorithms are recursive, meaning they often learn from themselves and therefore reach decisions far beyond the scope of what their programmers could predict. And now I’m thinking of Joshua and WarGames...

Anonymous
>>24341217

Yeah, I bumped a little on Chris' AI optimism. Stuart Russell, who literally wrote the book on AI, has argued that very simple, clearly not human-level-intelligent Facebook/Youtube video recommendation AI may have already destroyed Western democracy. See 3:50 and on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkV7anCPfaY See also: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HBxe6wdjxK239zajf/more-realistic-tales-of-doom The "go out with a whimper" scenario is essentially the endgame conclusion of the process Stuart discussed. No nukes necessary.

Anonymous
>>24295065

I'm fortunate that my cousins weren't swanky enough to buy that goat a hair comb, or I would have *never* recovered. (Chad, please DO NOT add "goat comb" to your line of animal fashion accessories).

Anonymous

AI is the new “ nuclear genii “ that can’t be put back into it’s lamp. At risk of sounding like a “Luddite “ but AI and the profit driven pursuit of technology will force more people into poverty than the great depression. “Fire bad!”

Anonymous

Glad to hear my bald pussies joke wasn't TOO bad (just an acceptable amount of bad). And I, in turn, wish I'd thought of H.P. Buttcraft. I literally laughed out loud. "H.P. Lovecraft? More like H.P. Buttcraft!"

Anonymous
>>24375416

Two be fair, that is a synergetic evil. If not for a capitalist system in which the profit motive was a foundation for how society functions, automating menial labor would be no problem at all. Unfortunately, capitalism is dying a slow, langorous death, so adding AI to the mix is sure to barrel us toward economic catastrophe if something isn't done to ameliorate the situation.

Anonymous
>>24377145

I was briefly aware of a Providence-area roller derby ref named "H.P. Smashcraft." I thought it should at least be "Lovesmash," but no one asked me. Oh, vaguely relatedly: it tries just a *bit* too hard to be amazing, but for anyone who missed it when it was first posted back in May, I recommend "H.P. Loveshack" on the McSweeney's website.

Kit Ainslie

First of all it feels great to get on the comments show! Like your other listener I've been here for a while (I think around episode 8) and you've regaled me all throughout high school. I did some looking around and I'm not sure where I got the specific example of the AI requesting a city to be destroyed, but I was thinking of the story "The Evitable Conflict" by Asimov. In it a world-spanning AI that controls the supply chains of the global economy begins acting strangely. If I ever dig up wherever I got the other idea from I'll let you know. On a brighter note the Culture Novels by Iain M. Banks feature a post-scarcity society where super-intelligent computer minds have created a utopian society befitting our Mr. Lackey's wildest dreams. At one point someone from outside the society asks what they do to someone who behaves badly (since they don't have laws). Their response is to demand that they stop and, if the "crime" is bad enough, follow them around with a drone that will stop them if they ever try it again. Otherwise feel free to engage in whatever consensual debauchery you'd like. So instead of moving everyone to Venus all GodLackey needs to do is follow everyone around who behaves badly and stop them if they try to do it again. Problem solved and everyone happy!

Anonymous
>>24538299

Ah a world with a billion mini lackeys buzzing about badgering every baddie - I want that comic now!

Anonymous

@ShoggothLord, Is the “Lemon/Lime Flavored Caffeine Tongue Punch Club” something I can sign up for soon?