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Episode 450 - Nemo Me Impune Lacessit (Patreon)

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2019-05-04 18:45:07
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2021-07

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Patton Oswalt joins us once again to discuss the Michael Shea porno-revenge tale Nemo Me Impune Lacessit!

Warning: some language and themes not appropriate for younger listeners.

Can't get an affordable copy of Copping Squid? Check out Demiurge: The Complete Cthulhu Mythos Tales of Michael Shea!

Next Up: The Novel of the White Powder

Comments

Anonymous

Yes, finally some more Arthur Machen, can't wait!

Anonymous

By some strange coincidence, I decided last night to relisten to the previous 3 Michael Shea episodes, so when this one hit the feed it all felt weirdly synchronistic.

Anonymous

Yes! YES! "Dolan's Cadillac" is one bitter, seething, *cathartic* little revenge tale! It even has a direct reference to--you guessed it!--"The Cask of Amontillado." As per the tale itself, I'm kinda getting a Vampire: The Masquerade vibe from Monty. A wizened old survival from the past steeped in profane knowledge used to prolong his life ruthlessly depredating newer generations, all the while despising this newfangled world that has come to supplant the one he knew...iunno, is it just me, or does he kind of feel like a Camarilla aristo?

Anonymous

If this had been written after Seinfeld we could presume an alternative title: The Cast of Monty’s yada-Yada-yada .

Anonymous

True story: Until just now, I (living in Europe) assumed Patton Oswalt was just a very dedicated fan of HPPodcraft. I had to do an internet search to find out about his impressive track record in entertainment. Anyhow, it probably speaks for you Chris & Chad that some people are introduced to Oswalt only via your show!

Ben Gilbert

‘Nemo me impune lacessit’ translated into Scots is ‘Wha duar meddle wi me’.

Anonymous

So I'm totally sold on Shea after these episodes. Not only does he explore bits and pieces that HPL didn't get to (or wasn't interested in) but he pulls in the modern references, technology, and scientific advancements that HPL certainly would have - had he lived another 80 years or so. I'm very happy that we get to an act of petty revenge taken to absurd levels. Makes one wonder if the Kids in the Hall were so inspired to include in Brain Candy a cameo with a pharmacologist working on a drug to give worms to ex-girlfriends...

Anonymous

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna track a copy of Shea's work; this stuff rocks!

Rick Hound

Just ordered the Weird Noted

Anonymous

If Michael Shea and Patton Oswalt had a baby, would it be U of M quarterback Shea Patterson?

Anonymous

I love the idea that the dressing up and staging of the sacrifices makes it worth all these Cthuloid entities turning up with just two mortals to devour - sort of the Nouvelle Cuisine of sacrifices. They eat the tiny but beautiful-looking portions and all leave hungry but no-one wants to admit it and look gauche, so they all go on about how exquisite it was, and then secretly head off to McDonalds or Pizza Hut afterwards to eat all the inhabitants thereof because they’re still starving.

Joseph

I love this episode! Although I do have to admit that I'm left with a burning question: Did Monty make Koboldus return the rental car? I bet he did; he seems like the type.

Richard Horsman
>>22427488

It's a fantastic anthology. On a related note, it has Shea's non-mythos story "The Autopsy" in it, which is just scary as hell.

Anonymous

This is the first story I've been able to read ahead of the episode since I had my first kid almost 5 years ago and it was great! I grabbed the "Demiurge" ebook and can't wait to dive in and listen to the othe Shea episodes again. This was my first Shea and I loved this story. It was much more hilarious than I expected (and I even missed the Kamin Quartz joke) and equally repellent and horrifying. Thanks so much for covering this and inspiring me finally read some Shea for myself.

Anonymous

Shea's use of language is just beautiful. We're so lucky he's a mythos acolyte.

Steve
>>22421785

And the symbol is a thistle which will hurt you if you grab it.

Steve

A great episode, Patton as ever is a delight and your enjoyment of each others' company really shines through and makes it a pleasure to listen. However I'm not much of a fan of the story as a sensuous porn Lovecraft rewrite of the Cask of Amontillado. It feels dated in many of its themes, and it's a spot reference fest too (The Gable Window anyone?). Much as Nifft the Lean is at the Cugel level, this is a Rhialto the Marvellous level encounter with an all powerful wizard who is pally with ever monster in the book and not afraid to show us what he's got. It was a very early Shea story, and there are many much better ones in the collection.

Anonymous

MR. OSWALT, YOU ROCK! (And you are 700% correct re: "The Willows".)

Anonymous

I bought “Demiurge” right after Patton was on the first time. Thank you Patton for sharing Micheal Shea’s work. I just started reading a collection of Harlan Ellison short stories, “Deathbird Stories”. I know Patton is big fan of Ellison. The funny thing is now that he has been on your show four times, his voice is narrating when I read these Ellison stories. It’s crazy, I know. Chad and Chris, you guys are awesome. I’ve listened to your podcast for probably five or six years now and love the work you guys put into this show. I enjoy hearing your excitement about a story you like. I’m equally entertained when you guys come across what Count Floyd (SCTV) would call a “dinker or not so scary” story. Sadly, my bookshelves keep filling up with more fiction due to your great work. Thank you and your friends/guests for the inspiration. Cheers

Anonymous

Let's hope no Scots who take their national motto seriously heard those "Scottish" accents. Affronts to a fine nation aside, this episode was a delight. I do enjoy getting back to our old eldritch friends and remembering why we all love a Shoggoth. Patton Oswalt's joyful erudition is, as ever, a treat.

Anonymous

I want to make Patton saying "come at me you fucking cunt" my next ringtone.

Anonymous

That classic Shea bonework.

Anonymous

On the "snuff concerns from the 80's" front: this is a huge part of the internet today, much more popular than it ever was in the Faces of Death era (which I never watched, but in my teenage years the rumor was always that someone had a friend-of-a-friend who had). The below links are articles about these sites, not the links to the relevant websites themselves, so they aren't NSFW as such, however the articles do discuss the content of some of these videos and may be upsetting. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/24/style/really-bad-stuff.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/24/style/really-bad-stuff.html</a> <a href="https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2017/09/we-re-not-freaks-we-re-not-weirdos-online-community-watches-people-die" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2017/09/we-re-not-freaks-we-re-not-weirdos-online-community-watches-people-die</a>

Anonymous
>>22421845

I envision the narrator as Sir Simon Milligan (and Koboldus as Hecubus).

Anonymous

I love it when TV's Son of TV's Frank comes on to regale us with some quality modern mythos.

Anonymous

I just keep imagining this as the greatest Night Gallery that never got made.

Anonymous

This was so campy and fun! Did anyone else picture it all as a Hammer film starring Vincent Price? (Then Shea mentioned Price, and I can't decide if that ruins the effect or enhances it.) If Patton hadn't been a guest, I would have loved to hear Edward French narrate!

Anonymous

I often hang out in a certain cafe across from the Lovecraft Arts and Sciences store in Providence, so imagine my sadness that on a day several weeks ago when I didn't, Patton Oswalt Instagrammed his visit to the store. (Somehow I also didn't know about his show in Providence at the time, despite following him on social media.) Anyway, we just binged through season 1 of "Happy," so hearing Oswalt's voice in connection with otherworldly, ludicrous violence and pornography seemed perfectly normal to me.

Anonymous

I wonder if the "Roger" alluded to is a nod to Roger Corman.

James Holloway
>>22612613

I came here to wonder the same thing. Corman didn't produce porn as far as I know, but he *did* make a lot of low-budget movies set in creepy old houses.

Anonymous

I need some more audioreadings of Michael Shea in my life, there's barely any audiobooks on his work. If only two cool guys, if they can, provide us with more readings of Michael Shea. Maybe a full reading or two?

Anonymous

Dolan’s Cadillac! Thank you! That’s such a great story! Truest one of the best revenge stories I’ve ever read. I thoroughly enjoyed this story. Definitely the Avengers of Lovecraftian horror.

Anonymous

Chris mentioned "kobold in german myth is a house spirit" and I wonder if Shea is making a reference to Goethe's The Sorcerer's Apprentice. "Kobold" is one of the names that the apprentice throws at the overenthusiastic broom, and is shortly followed by "Ah, here comes the master - Sore, sir, is my strait; I raised this spirit faster Far than I can lay't." This should be familiar to any Lovecraft fan as a violation of the "doe not call up Any that you cannot put downe" rule. Which, if I'm really willing to reach, gives me vague hope that Monte will eventually be harmed by the powers he calls on, as otherwise the story reads like an amoral Tales from the Crypt episode. If our POV character were Valerie, then we would have received the useful advice of "don't fuck around on your spouse because they might turn out to be a wizard," but with Monte as our viewpoint we get “yeah, you can bargain with dark powers, live for several centuries, abandon your eldritch obligations to marry a beautiful socialite, get dumped for a porn star, and as long as you eventually come back to the fold and take horrible revenge on those who slighted you all will be forgiven.” Or, to quote the Beast from Krull, “Love is fleeting, power is eternal.” Michael! This advice is not making the world better!

Anonymous

After the "Tsathoggua" episode hit I immediately looked up Amazon and ebay looking for a copy of Polyphemus and The Color Out of Time. I found them at a fairly reasonable price considering they had been out of print. Waiting for my pay check to hit took about two weeks and when I check the listing to make my purchase, the had been sold and the remaining copies had been given a markup. Maybe we might see a resurgence of Shea's work given the interest you've generated.

Anonymous

I can't believe I had to wait 450 episodes for a C-Bomb. Anyway, a great story and fantastical told.

Anonymous

I am still catching up, and just listened to this. Fantastic! I am a lesbian, but could make an exception for Patton Oswalt. He could just read to me, and drop a few C-Bombs. I am so glad you did not cut that out in the edit. I almost exhaled my sparkling water through my nose! Seriously though, I am really loving these Michael Shea stories. I bought The Demiurge because of your coverage of them, and this was the first of his stories I was able to read before the episode. Shea brings a modern view on the Mythos that is a real breath of fresh air. So too are his characters, which except for this story, are not the typical dry Lovecraftian antiquarians. Finally, I really like how Shea frames encountering the Mythos as a revelation. As Patton said several times, you are being shown a miracle. You are blessed by this. You are elevated above the mundanity of ordinary life. Now it makes sense why all these people like Castro would become cultists (or it is cthultists?). Of course as Patton also pointed out, that like with drugs, the true horror of it all only becomes apparent when it is too late to escape, when you are Cthulhu's bitch.