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Helldivers 2 and Consumer Pushback Done Right | Unpacked

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Major Ward

Since the Mass Effect 3 ending debacle and the subsequent Retake Mass Effect movement, it’s been proven that a focused and dedicated community can affect meaningful change. Good to see it working here! I mean, it shouldn’t have to be this way but publishers keep doing stupid shit so here we are…

Amur M El Bey

I wish this episode could have explored the issue a bit more. I feel like you guys were mostly recapping what we already know about the situation. For example, the issue with the community managers at Arrowhead are actually more complicated than they look from the outside. Spitz, the community manager, was more of a "rogue element" and him telling people to review bomb the game to give Arrowhead leadership more leverage with Sony was definitely not intended by the rest of Arrowhead. It's why he ended up getting terminated shortly afterwards. The community managers at Arrowhead have been embroiled in controversy before. Usually by either being combative with the userbase or because of political stuff on Twitter. Spitz is remembered as a hero now, but prior to this controversy he was fairly unpopular as a community manager because of his combative attitude. I think just chalking this entire situation up as "Arrowhead and the players working together to bring Sony down a peg" is a nice narrative and there's a lot of truth to it, but I think the internal politics of the situation are a bit more nuanced than that.

James Votypka

There are differences in the scenarios, but I do wish the halo community would take a few notes from this instance. There’s always a wave of pushback whenever something isn’t to the community’s liking, but that pushback is always unfocused and frankly insufferable at times. A cohesive argument directed at the right people would go a lot farther than just lamenting on how “Bungie did it better”