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For this week's Die Shrink the MLID Brothers think it would be best to carve out a specific facet of the ADL conversation - Who is ADL for now?  Who is Zen 3D going to be for?  Who should just wait for Zen 4 and beyond?

There's also heavy discussion of how ADL compares to Sandy Bridge, and other upcoming upgrades like Rembrandt and Mobile ADL.



https://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20

Initial Alder Lake Reaction video from MLID: https://youtu.be/BdRxXRRrJeU

https://www.techspot.com/review/2222-intel-core-i9-11900k/

https://www.techspot.com/review/2351-intel-core-i9-12900k/

https://youtu.be/WWsMYHHC6j4

https://www.techspot.com/review/1345-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x/page3.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/8g75bw/amd_ryzen_1800x_and_its_ram_issues/

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=Intel+motherboard+H570
https://youtu.be/fhI9tLOg-6I

https://www.techspot.com/review/1299-intel-core-kaby-lake-desktop/

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-12th-gen/23.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-12600k-alder-lake-12th-gen/23.html

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Anonymous

Thanks for your take. My last CPU upgrade was prompted by Battlefield and I am interested in 2042. Should 2042 get good reviews (or steer that way eventually) I will probably for sure pull the trigger. 4 old cores just didn't cut it on the beta.

Frank van de Pol

I'm one of those strange people that can use the 5-15% extra performance :P I still play some older games like SC2 and Mechwarrior Online that need high IPC. (also play modern game but still love the old titles. SC2 custom maps are really hard on the cpu. Ryzen 5000 had 2x performance gains over the 3000 series when you have custom maps with a lot of units. Fps went from 7 to 14. Yes still to low but it was a major difference when playing. Mwo the same now some heavy maps can stay above 60 first dropping to 45. I will not be upgrading to Alder lake since I have a 5900X. But I would consider the Zen3 3D chips if they boost performance in those older games. Would be the final upgrade for me for this platform. After that I will be looking for Zen5/6 skipping first and probably second Gen DDR5 platforms so they can mature.