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Telegrams - End of Year Chat with Tech Deals (Patreon)

Published:
2020-12-11 00:24:01
Imported:
2021-12

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Howdy!

The final part of the end of year series will include BOTH hosts of Tech Deals with BOTH Tom & Dan!

The focus of the discussion will be on gaming hardware releases in the second half of this year, and our hopes/predictions for 2021! But don't be shy!  Put any and all thoughts, questions, and anecdotes regarding gaming and the hardware that powers it.  Just be insightful, use good grammar, and be as concise as possible.

You have until the end of Friday (12/11/20) to have your comments considered.


Tech Deals Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCss3QxegBkF8BAetIo0qXA

Comments

ishould

Which would have better performance at 200w, 6800xt or 3080? I can't find any benchmarks that test this kind of thing

Luke Haberman

Now that it's becoming more apparent real gamers are the people driving up hardware prices above MSRP, and not bots/scalpers, do you think we will continue to see AMD and Nvidia raise flag ship product prices in successive launches (RTX 4000 series, RX 7000, Zen 4, etc.), taking the whole product stack up with it?

MyLittlePwny

Do you think Nvidia would release a fully enabled ga 102 using their absolute best binned GPUs coupled with 24 or 48 GB of gddr6x, give it the prosumer titan drivers and give us a Titan Ampere GPU for the tippy top of the market for those where price is irrelevant or those who need a prosumer GPU?

Cleansweep

What do you think AMD's strategy will be for the possible reveal and launch of the 6700 & 6700 XT early next year, given all the problems we've seen? Would AMD hold off the initial release of the cards until the middle of Q1 2021 or later to avoid stock drama on the launch?

Anonymous

Hey Tom and Dan, really appreciate your content. Coming from Quebec, It really helped me improve my english. Anyways, do you think the 6700 xt will age well ? Will it be good enough for 1440p 60fps ultra for the next 5 years ? Will stock be better than the other amd/nvidia cards ? Gave up about the 6800 xt since the price’s here in Canada are just insane. An rx 6800 (not even xt or aib) is about 900$ (so about 700 us dollars). I could afford it, but it’s just not worth it imo. I’m better off saving for university.

Charlie Pearce

Perfect Dark?! Was that the one you said you knew? I knew it! (I didn't).

Anonymous

In what month next year do you think cpu and gpu prices will normalize? I'm looking forward to completing my build but pricing for new and used parts is crazy right now.

Anonymous
>>49315749

Indeed this would be such a huge indicator of performance in laptops when the chips are hugely underclocked. 6700xt and 3060ti capped at 90W would really be like comparing the two laptops

Anonymous

In a recent video you recommended a 1660ti/Super for 1440p gaming. What card would get you 1440p/120hz+ on medium or higher settings of the selection we have now? Does that recommendation change if you are running a 7th/8th gen Intel/Zen equivalent?

Anonymous

G'day from Australia :)

Anonymous

If you both had a chance to redo the 3000 series yourself would you have moved it toTSMC or kept the Samsung node, BUT released with a lower MSRP and old cheap blower coolers ?

Anonymous

I am at the point where I believe the current gen GPU's from both sides just don't cut it for the price and I'm sticking with the Vega 64 for another year to see what might happen now there is competition .... Stupid idea or is there some merit in waiting for the next release from both parties ? I just want solid 1440p raster on ultra @ 144 fps for 144hz

Anonymous

Two questions One do you think nezt gen gaming laptop will need 3 power supplies? Two i think intel Integrate graphic are the best Why 1. Free 2. Fuck rt it garbage 4. It in stock 4. No new driver = the current driver are perfect 5. we can see more then 24 fps according to ubisoft 6. If people start to use when we womt be needed a 3 power supplies laptops to run a 400w graphic card Proof me wrong

Anonymous

Do you think RDNA 2 will be relevant in 4K or ray traced gaming for years to come? Or will RDNA 3 provides another great performance uplift just like the one from Zen 2 to Zen 3 and annihilate RDNA 2's relevance? In other words, how well do you think RDNA 2 will age? Assuming RNDA 3 and Hopper will both provide another great performance leap in both rasterizations and ray tracing compared to their previous gen.

Authoritarrr

Hey Tom, Dan and Tech Deals! Aside from just fidelity and fluidity improvements, do you foresee any particular technology releases in the next few years (hardware or software) that will meaningfully change the kinds of experiences we get in games? The PS5 shows potential, but I'm curious about the PC gaming space. I remember in the xbox 360 era we started getting games like Bioshock and Red Faction with highly dynamic and interactive environments which blew me away, but a game has never quite wowed me in that way since (apart from in graphical quality). Love from the UK

Anonymous

What do you think about Best Buy’s selling strategy of only allowing checkouts online if you choose to pickup at your local store? Many people would receive “unavailable for pickup within 250 miles”.

Alexander

Hi Tom, I'm one of those people that you and Dan said you don't understand why we're so obsessed with Cyberpunk. I built a PC pretty much just for this game. I got the 5800x launch day but haven't bought a GPU yet, as I was able to borrow a Titan X Pascal (not xp) from my job as a placeholder. I was waiting to see benchmarks before deciding what to get. Now that it's here and we've seen how hard to run it is, I'm not sure what to get. I'm at 1440p and I'd like to be able to max out the raytracing at >45fps (getting ~40 atm and it's not thaaaat bad), but I don't really want to spend 3080 money. When are you expecting the 3070ti to launch, and at what price point? I had been planning on getting an AMD GPU (like them better as a company + SAM) but since CP77 doesn't even support them for RT until sometime next year, and their RT performance apparently isn't that great (yet), I guess I'll have to wait til RDNA 3 or 4 to go solid team red. Sorry this was a bit ramble-y, love the show!

Anonymous

I Think an important part of tech review or hardware reviews that is missing is what our hardware can actually do, and odd edge cases for things you can do. For instance, everyone talks about GPU frame rate performance but not how many stream of video input you can decode at once in OBS for streamers. Or how a livestreaming setup can be done using the intel gpu for iPhone decode and then the nvidea gpu takes over reframing and the cpu does live recording etc etc. Their are tons of interesting "Real World" hardware situations you can do on a rtx 2060 vs a 1050ti vs a mx 250 that I think a lot of people learn by trial and error and get frustrated. That type of content could prove as a better real-world testing then just %faster in a game. Like can your gpu do game streaming, gaming, and encoding? what system would you need around it etc.

Anonymous

Seeing quite a few tech youtubers switching to OLED TVs for their pc gaming monitor. Is that a case of them just getting sampled or are OLEDs really superior to all the other gaming panels out there ?   Speaking of sampled, your thoughts of Nvidia deciding to not sample Hardware Unboxed unless they change their "editorial direction "? Will unbiased, day one reviews, be a thing of the past and will day one reviewers essentially be fanboys peddling the narrative of the manufacturer ?

Valko Milev

I hope for Hopper Titan with 48gb VRAM . I don't care if it will cost 3000$ or 3500$. I just want one or two(or maybe three) for my A.I. research / learning . I want nothing more and nothing less. Also will We see a response to the tensor cores of NVIIDA from AMD?

Anonymous

I hope for the laptop market to become super competitive w new AMD offerings coming up. I also want VR to get a lot more support and adoption. So i can finally convince myself to buy a headset for myself

Anonymous

COVID persists, and the expansion of the market for gaming hardware, from PC and consoles is complicated by the insatiable demand for hardware from miners. Do you guys think that demand will continue to soak up supply well into 2021 and can you hazard a guess as to whether we'll see supply return to the heydays, if at all, and how long that might take?

Anonymous

Do you guys think if Ray Tracing becomes more mainstream (since Developers like it this seems likely) will it age all previous gen graphics cards more aggressive and force more people into upgrading? My example: I have a GTX 970 4GB. I was set to try and upgrade over Q3 & 4, but now I almost feel like just waiting till next get or Q2 for this gen earliest. I can still play all my games on 1080 & 1440p, up grading would be nice but not necessary. There aren’t a lot of game that push the envelope When I made my first big rig (i7 2600k + Saphire 5870) I went from not being able to play some games, to playing all games at max settings for a long time. I was thinking will raytracing kick the chair out from older graphics cards and create a genuine need to upgrade for a lot of people.

Stephan Hart

Hello Tom,Dan,Tech, and Rogue! TechDeals, Though I disagree with some of Tech's takes I respect your experience, knowledge, and Savvy (32GB RAM 4 GAMING is the TRUTH!) Really appreciate the Cheap GEN4 SSD finds! With the current Nvidia and Hardware Unboxed situation. Do you as reviewers feel obliged/pressured to follow the Nvidia narrative? Do you believe it's a shot across the Bow to the entire community? In the most recent LTT WAN Show Linus Made a real statement that really surprised and impressed me, analyzing the real "Mafioso" message they are sending. . I would love to hear your opinions. Thank you Edit: Nvidia has since walked back their statement, but you can't squeeze the milk back up the utter!

Anonymous

Quick ans simple. Any news on AMD "DLSS-like" software? It's the only thing I am waiting to know before deciding with one I will buy. So anything will already be helpful, release date (or month, or at least quarter) and if it performs anywhere near DLSS. Cheers Tom, have a nice holiday and new year!