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Anonymous

What's with that pretentious comment about Vigilante killing people last season.....Oliver killed people whole first seasons and five years of flashbacks, you were fine with that, Laurel and Felicity still loved him. Dig knows about it and still follows him, so did Rene and Curtis untill last episode......biased much, Shannan?! And again with Dinah? You just need to find a reason to dig in on her?

Anonymous

Collateral damage. People die in crossfires. And nobody cares about Curtis anyway))) Shan is definitely has a bias against Dinah tho. She paused and went on the rant about Dinah, without seeing the the whole episode, and Dinah actually did the right thing in like the next scene.

Wyatt

That’s the difference between the two. Oliver never killed innocent people and brushed it off as collateral damage. Vigilante has said that many times. I will say I feel Shan is being a bit hard on Dinah; however, I was just as angry at Dinah first time around. I think watching it again has given me perspective.

David Brown

Shan, Rene/Wild Dog only agreed to testify against Oliver. Not anyone else. As far as he/we know, there is no evidence against anyone else but himself.

David Brown

I think it's been a while since he said that. The last time he said that, the writers may not have decided yet who Vigilante would be. Like killing Laurel in Season 4. When they put the flashforward grave scene in the Season 4 premiere, they hadn't decided who was in the grave. They backed themselves into a corner and decided on Laurel. They may have backed themselves into a corner again with Vigilante.

Wyatt

I will try to play devil’s advocate. Shan seems to be hard backing Oliver (Which I did on my first watch). After seeing it again I am more on the side that everyone is wrong. 1. I agree Dinah is... annoying. I think they have done a bad job of demonstrating this but she is being blinded by “family” as Oliver has done MANY times. She lost the love of her life and years later he has come back only to be a monster. She knows he is a murderer but deep down she hopes there is something still left in him. That little part left is the papier-mâché flower that she leaves him. From her it seems she becomes blinded and embraces the fact that maybe there is still some good in him and she can change him. And is even further embraced by the fact she stops killing. (Sounds like someone else who was mentioned in this episode from Season 1). When she is told about him and James she doesn’t say thinks Oliver is lying but that she doesn’t trust him so she goes to verify. I think if Vince had denied it when confronted she would have believed him but he admits it instead. 2. Both sides do admit they were wrong. Wild Dog admitted in episode 9 he should have gone to the team and in this episode Oliver says essentially “I was wrong and you were wrong.” And Dinah, Rene and Curtis don’t object meaning they agree. 3. It wasn’t right for Oliver to ask for them to come back the way he did. This may be an American thing idk but ik American view surveillance as a horrible thing. Might be a bad analogy but I would say many people here view spying on someone as a breach of trust equivalent to cheating on someone. If the person who cheated on you said they were sorry and turn around and said can’t we just go back to the way things were, even if you forgave them, most people wouldn’t be will to get back together with them and definitely not immediately after. 4. If Shan does read this I would like to apologize for making this so long as Ik you find reading difficult (so do I)

Jason Veevaert

Yeah this is the episode where they lost me this season, I stopped watching, and just checked what happened after the season ended.

Nicole

I think its so funny how much shit everyone gives Dina but they forget that she is one the newest member to the squad and everyone had to work on themselves to get where they are now. for example ollie used to kill every single person and now he realized that's the wrong way to do things.. same with felicity. we have our ups and downs with her cause she is an emotionally complex character with multiple layers that's also in love with ollie. Everyone has to have their journey of coming into their new "better person" and she is having her moment right now.. and yes it gets worse because of what ends up happening in the future but it makes her stronger for it and she is the one who actually ends up getting through to u know who..so ive come to the conclusion everyone just wants to hate on dinah and take all their anger out on her from laurel dying and having a "bad" season out on ONE character is such bullshit.. just my opinion.

Luis Garcia

This whole new team old team drama was definitely annoying. Probably my least favorite part of the season.