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What If...? 1x5 - Poll! (Patreon)

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2021-09-08 21:27:24
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2021-09

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Who do you think handled their grief worse, Wanda for Vision (WandaVision), or Vision for Wanda (What If) ?


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Jack Kelly

Wanda enslaved an entire town.

Callum

I’m split between the 2 on this one they both can’t handle grief well

SpeedyCat19

Vision was worse. At least the people Wanda enslaved were still alive at the end

Anonymous

Vision literally led people to their deaths over a dead chick

Dip602

Wanda definitely her grief effected a lot more people than what vision did

Anonymous

Wanda did hold an entire town against it’s will, but Vision actually lead people to full on death. That being said, holy shit they both needed therapy.

Anonymous

Between these two, Doctor Strange last episode and Hank Pym two episodes ago, I find it interesting how many Avengers and co. are willing to become evil if one of their loved ones dies.

SonOfDarkHelmet

Wanda by far. Vision didn't create the zombies. Wanda didn't have to take over an entire town just to play homemaker with Vision.

Sharrod Wolf

Visions definitely worse but I gotta say what a couple 😂😂😂

Jtrggrhappy

Vision did what some people do in some zombie movies which is preserve a shell of someone they love cause they can’t let go while Wanda had the power to bring back what she had lost at the cost of those around her so they had similar situations in terms of Having the best of intentions but vision went as far as to physically harm t’challa as opposed to Wanda being blissfully an aware she was harming anyone mentally

Anonymous

This is a toughie... So I'm gonna literally base it off the fact that vision actually led people to their deaths, when Wanda didn't or didn't have the intention to, so Vision is worse for me.

Anonymous

Wanda has more of an excuse, she’s gone through an unbelievable amount of trauma and she’s human, Vision is an Android who at this point hasn’t gone through anything besides the loss of Wanda. I think the mind stones connection to Wanda played a part in vision not being able to let go, he had to pull that sucker out.

KevinFromNewYork

Wanda's creation of the hex was accidental and she was being manipulated. Vision is a computer that was making calculated decisions that hurt/killed people.

Jordan Malloy

Wanda put people in a simulation. Vision put people on Wanda’s dinner plate. Vision wins.

TibrisG

It's hard to choose, Vision did something physically heinous to a few people, while Wanda did something really really bad to town full of men, women and children. Making Black panther ribeye feels worse than collectively forcing your grief on strangers and stealing their agency, but i'm not a doctor.

Anonymous

Vision for Wanda but its closer than it should be

Cal

Wanda killed Vision in infinity war to save everyone else. Vision killed everyone else because he couldn’t save Wanda. I both do and don’t like the symmetry of it. Also, I wish there was a part 2 because this feels more like an incomplete story than the others.

Cal
>>67455108

Vision killed people though. According to what happened to T’challa he carved them up a piece at a time.

SNP

Who said Wanda need to rewatch the show, Wanda was not in the right mind when she enslaved the town, she didn’t even know she do that until half of the show, when she saw what she actually has done to the town, she freed them. On the other hand, Vision actually understand what is he doing and he intended to do that. Leading other people to feed Wanda, even his own teammate.

Anonymous

I say what vision did was worse even though both were pretty messed up wanda acted on emotion but vision acted on logic so there is no excuse.

MarkIsDaBoss

Honestly, it could go either way depending on how you judge them. Wanda enslaved an entire town, against their will, to be her puppets, do her bidding for her, and "have her nightmares," just so she could live the perfect life with her artificial boyfriend. Granted, none of them died in the end, although they went through a shitload of pain. Vision betrayed his closest allies by tying them down and feeding them to his undead zombie girlfriend. It's very close for me, but I'll say Vision. I know he's a machine and all, but you don't just betray your friends like that. Their relationship is immensely toxic btw. They should really go to couples therapy, so the end of the world doesn't eventually occur.

Matthew Cronin

At least Wanda was doing it by accident

Bgill

I would say Vision cause even though Wanda did something very traumatic at least she didn’t cut up people and feed them to Vision. Though technically he couldn’t eat them anyway sense Vision is a robot.

Devin Eleven

Why is this even being debated, the answer is obvious. 𝐌𝐞𝐩𝐡𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐨/𝐁𝐨𝐡𝐧𝐞𝐫 is the real tragedy here!😤 (ohhh a 𝙒𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙄𝙛 𝙚𝙥𝙞𝙨𝙤𝙙𝙚 '𝘼𝙜𝙖𝙩𝙝𝙖 𝙡𝙤𝙨𝙩 𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙝𝙪𝙨𝙗𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙍𝙖𝙡𝙥𝙝 𝘽𝙤𝙝𝙣𝙚𝙧!?' to mephisto!?!?!' In handling their grief worse (as much as I like to play devil's advocate) the answer is overwhelmingly Vision. Don't need a Ship of Theseus thought experiment to see that. However if the question was something like: "𝑾𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒉 𝒈𝒓𝒊𝒆𝒇 𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒘𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒔𝒆 𝒍𝒐𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒎 𝒆𝒇𝒇𝒆𝒄𝒕..." {Curious on anyones thoughts about this} I would probably say Wanda because it lead to absorbing Agatha and all the previous witches' powers; Now Wanda knows she's not only a witch but the Scarlet Witch, She also has a hold of the Darkhold, She has Magical powerful children, all culminating to a multiversal madness. With vision the worse case scenario is simply: Everyone is a zombie. Because it came from the quantum realm I guess it could have some weird effects but i don't think it'll ever compare to whatever Wanda is up to. Heck the Darkhold alone could have a single page on how to cure everything up IDK. Curious on anyone's thoughts

Anonymous

I think vision had the potential to save people, but chose to kill many people out of grief. I do think what Wanda did was awful, but Vision might have doomed humanity

Joel

I chose Vision first, but then I thought What If ... WandaVision had an episode referencing The Wallking Dead? Then she's also feeding people to zombies to keep Vision alive, on top of already mind controlling them.

Anonymous

Vision's was worse by far, in terms of what they did to others. Vision made a conscious decision to feed living victims to a zombie- Wanda lost control of her power and mentally tortured people for a few weeks. Not saying Wanda didn't mishandle her grief, but if I had to choose one of the two experiences, I'd take the nightmares for a couple of weeks/months over the permanent, slow, and torturous "feed me to another person while I'm still alive" death any day.

Anonymous

I was gonna say Vision because I can see grief driving something like that in many who have lost someone, while I doubt anyone would be able to sacrifice innocents to ... preserve (I guess?) their loved one. The last year makes me question that however...

Sam K

Vision did it on purpose, case closed.

Rahsaan

Wanda. He couldn't kill her and anyone can say logically he should, but emotions ain't logical. Vision worked to find a cure and keep her contained...which is probably the next logical thing. Zombie Wanda running around loose is a huge problem. In both situations Vision sacrificed him self to try to solve the problem. Wanda's actions will have who knows what effect on the people of Westview while most of the world moves along. I don't know if there is a course of therapy designed to heal what Wanda did. T'Challa and the boys seem like they're screwed regardless...along with the rest of the planet. Based on Civil War can Vision even kill Wanda?

Anonymous

Bare minimum, while still screwed up, Vision could of easily cured any of the zombies right outside his base and fed Wanda one of them rather than lure people like Black Panther to the base to feed her them.

Anonymous

Well, they're still better than Doctor Strange since his grief destroyed a whole universe.

Anonymous

Wanda didn't have control but Vision chose to feed her.

Anonymous

Vision was a machine and should not have had human emotions. By knowing that he was an AI, he should have reprogrammed himself.

Skeletor

In Wanda's case we don't know how or why she got to the level of grief to do what she did in Wanda tv series. Im going to guess she has been under a manipulation spell. While Vision just did it cause logically now his love ate humans and he thought like a Machine or Ultron

Anonymous

It's a missed opportunity that the zombies have no conscience and don't talk, like in the comics, especially with the Wanda and Steve scenes, it would have been scarier and more interesting for the story.

Anonymous

Neither? Enslaving minds with pain or Feeding people to zombies.

Echodec
>>67465847

He didn't even lure Black Panther, Vision straight up yoinked him and flew him over to feed Wanda.

Liesmith
>>67481260

I think the main difference is that Wanda didn't do it on purpose, whereas Vision had total control of himself the entire time.

Louis Augeri

Wanda. Maybe she was unaware of what she had done at first, but kept it up after realizing what she was doing to innocent people in Westview. What Vision did was super messed up but it’s a zombie apocalypse so I more understand losing your humanity in trying to hold onto the one thing you care about. Still pretty messed up though.

Anonymous

I think what Vision does for Wanda is far more worse and morbid because he is more intellectually advanced than humans and capable of remaining neutral/unbiased but he still chose to save her by feeding her people. Wanda didn't know hwat she was doing, but it still didn't excuse her actions. In this universe, Vision knew exactly what he was doing and went through with it regardless of the consequences. I am still shocked and think there is a major writing/character problem in how he was convinced so quickly that he was wrong.

Anonymous

Not about the pull but when zombie Wanda was floating down to visions corpse her hair was the same as the drawing of the scarlet witch in the darkhold

Denickart

I'd say Vision handled it better proportionately considering that the world he was living in was far worse.

Bunny Norris

Wanda accidentally controlling people and making a temporary AU to process her grief or Vision slowly feeding their friends and allies to keep his beloved near and her power in check… Is that what happened to Scott’s body?

Quwykxz
>>67550394

Yes. Vision lied to Scott and told him that he had to do that to save him (Scott), when in reality, Vision used Scott's body to feed ZombieWanda. (this is implied, but not directly said aloud)

Quwykxz

Wanda mentally kept people in check, but they were physically fine as long as they played their parts, and she made sure they were living well, in some cases they were more well-off, in certain ways, than they were in their previous lives. Vision either MURDERED people himself, or directly and knowingly led them to their deaths by lying to them. Also, they weren't all total strangers, He KNEW, and was on friendly terms with, both Scott and T'Challa, yet he STILL chopped off T'Challa's leg, and all of Scott's body, to feed his disgusting pet. What Wanda did was awful; what Vision did was MONSTROUS, the kind of F'd up $#!+ that Nazi "doctors" would be proud of.

Gavin Hardiman

It sucks when your saviors have separation anxiety

Atomos

Vision-simply on the fact he did all that then felt he had to atone for himself by killing himself. He could’ve atoned in better ways such as helping them escape more easily. Helping them with the cure, etc. I don’t really understand his choice to just do that and make them fight even harder to escape on the jet

Anonymous

I have to say Vision, because if I understood the implications (insert Its Always Sunny reference) Vision used Scott's body as a food source and kept him alive until he was just a head...the same as he started to do with T'Challa...Wanda may have held a town hostage, but she wasn't mutilating and experimenting on people! Messed up episode...I loved it!

Anonymous

I'll choose wanda cause I really disliked this episode of what if, the humor was to much at times and Scott at the end was so unbearable. The episode I was the most excited about was I'm my opinion was the worst. Marvel Zombies is a dark series and this version is trying to hard to be funny, that last episode was dark so we know they can go there.