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Warning MAJOR SPOILER talk therein…

Seriously, you are warned, okay… here we go.

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STRUCTURE - Surprise!! It’s half a movie. A GREAT half a movie, but yes, that’s very much what it is. What’s funny is I remember them originally putting it as part one / part two in initial trades, but whatever win / loss they gambled in going this way and selling it as one movie, well, it certainly had an effect. I mean, my audience was SCREAMING when it went to the “to be continued” card, especially because it felt like we were right on the crest of something big. Like I said above, there’s absolutely going to be a downside of doing this. It will absolutely feel like some kind of let down no matter what. This is inevitable. Intrinsic even. But you have to remember people were disappointed / felt halfway stuck after Empire Strikes Back, too. The whole question is if you can really still build a strong enough foundation that people are completely into the journey still. And ultimately part of a “spider-verse” trilogy that people adore as a complete thought. But it also has to be entertaining along the way… And boy howdy did they do that…

PACE - Even from the opening long sequence, I was like “oh boy, they’re taking their time aren’t they?” Because they certainly were. Which is perhaps odd given that the first film, Into The Spider-Verse is a Swiss clock of precision and rapid timing, moving along its beats with incredible speed and soaring to an incredible (and cathartic) finale. It’s perfect storytelling (and I did an hour long mega video essay with Landon about that here). But this film is soooooo not that. Again, it’s a gamble. And something that will obviously have some kind of negative impact. I mean, even I agree there’s a few conversations that ramble on and repeat some of the beats. But there’s great things that come from the change, too. Like when you give scenes to breathe you really can get some moments to resonate. I mean, does anyone else think the most incredible scene in the movie is Gwen and Miles catching up on the clocktower? We know how the first film uses the powerful inversion imagery, but the scene is ACHINGLY gorgeous, especially in how it shows they’re the only two people who can really see the world LIKE THIS. It’s maybe one of my favorite little intimate sequences I’ve seen in a studio film in YEARS??? And hot damn, there are only some things that are possible when you let a movie find these kinds of moments. Speaking of which..

STYLE / SCORE - Emboldened by the success of the last one, they push the impressionistic stuff to a whole other level. Sure, we get legos and Mumbai and so many dips into the strange possibilities. And dazzling doesn’t even cover the action of it. But my hands down favorite is the (perhaps more subtle) emphasis on Gwen’s impressionist, splash paint version of New York where we spent A LOT of time in the movie (it almost felt a little Disco Elysium?).  And part of the pacing and style difference means the film gets so much time to highlight Daniel Pemberton’s score, which already feels like an all timer?

S Tier Additions - The way the first film builds out its roster is one of those amazing things and we get to wonder what kind of spider-folks we’re going to get this time. My hands down favorite? And seemingly everyone else’s? Daniel Kaluuya’s Spider-Punk Hobie. From design, to the serious yet tongue and cheek punk anarchy, to his protest peacing out of the big battle cause he can’t be bothered with none of that, to his giving of the watch thingy to Gwen as a cathartic-yet-in-character-act-of-rebellion is all perfect. But he’s not alone. Pavitr Prabhakar? “Who I don’t know!” Incredible. Jessica Drew? “He’s hot though” Incredible. Shea Wiggum as Gwen’s dad? Incredible. All of it feels so damn alive and vivid. Even Oscar Isaac gets the incredible job of being stern fuddy duddy (which they also get to play as hilarious), all before leading to…

THE BAIT AND SWITCH - I remember the second I heard the braids line I was like “oh shit oh shit oh shit” and you could feel it all coming in the audience in waves after that. By the time it gets to the Miles / Prowler reveal, you slap your forehead. OF COURSE. Of course that’s where it all had to go. And all the possible thematic meaning comes alive right there: Miles understanding the architecture of his life, the dark side of who we could be, what he’s actually fighting for in his identity and self-hood, along with the deeper notions of a whole essay that could be so full of depth and meaning…

But it’s half a movie. And that’s the ultimate thing. I can’t really fully write about it until we have the whole of it put together. And while there are a lot of studio film situations where I’d bemoan the delay, there are some stories that do a good job of earning your trust in the process. Because let’s be honest about this particular genre…

No one else is working on this level, are they?

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Prunella UK

Also... the Comics Code Approved and Stan Lee editorial text boxes made me squee SO HARD!

Anonymous

I loved the meta-textual stuff, absolutely loved it. It's so easy to mess that kind of storytelling up, but they handled it deftly and with the title of the next part being "Beyond the Spider-verse" it makes it even better. Can Miles make the argument for his very existence when his judge is the unfeeling structure of creation? Kirby would be proud. I haven't seen much pushback against the cliffhanger. What I am seeing, with more than a little bemusement, is a lot of people falling into the same trap that Miguel did - too concerned with how the pieces of Miles' story fit into a template that truly does not exist, all the while blind to how those same pieces are already working so well on their own. And lastly because I don't know where else to put this - there's a moment in that Gwen and Miles scene where the animators do an incredible bit of acting with just Miles' eyebrows. Many moments in the film blew me away, but that was a real stunner.

Prunella UK

I recall the old Michael Caine 'acting in film' workshop where he took a bunch of young actors (including a baby Celia Imrie!) through acting on film. And he showed - demonstrated! - how much could be done with stillness and eye movements. And then I watched how Spider-Verse did the same. So many small moments of eye movement that expressed SO MUCH!

Anonymous

Funny enough, I both remembered that this was announced as "Part 1," and caught the "42" on the go-home-machine display, so I wasn't shocked by the cliffhanger per se (they did manage to surprise me with alt-Miles being THE Prowler, as the scene had me thinking he'd just been working with Uncle Aaron's Prowler). So I could feel it leading up to the "To Be Continued" card and if anything was surprised it didn't hit a little sooner. As indulgent as this movie is, holding off on half of the team from the first film, only to tease them as part of Gwen's resistance at the very end? Really good judgment and restraint on their part, I think. I did love that Peni's clearly grown into a bit more of a moody anime teen and upgraded her mech to its Evangelion-inspired comic-accurate design. I've seen some complaints that so many Spider-Mans being on board with enforcing Miguel's algorithmic sacrifices felt out of character with the core of Spider-Man, but it all made sense to me. They'd mostly been recruited after those sacrifices already happened, so Miguel really only becomes the bad guy in this exact scenario. And they generally all seem appropriately torn about it, with so much of the chase dialog being variations of "hold on, let's talk about this." The only thing that really felt wrong to me was how *specific* the supposed "Canon Events" actually are. "A police captain close to Spider-Man dies saving a child from falling rubble" is nonsensically precise, and impossible to believe all of them went through that. Did Spider-Punk have a police captain friend? Did the cowboy one? Did the T-Rex have a dinosaur police captain friend? I don't buy it. Something more general like "Spider-Man must choose between saving a father figure or a group of strangers during a crisis" would have felt much more believably universal, and had most of the same impact on the plot. (though they'd have to finagle some other way to foreshadow that it's specifically his own dad he has to worry about in this case)

Michael Chui

What I hate most about 2-parters, personally, is precisely the fact that I have to hold my judgement in abeyance. But I generally loved everything I saw in this movie. One weird nitpick I will say about the Miles/Gwen clock tower scene? It makes no sense to lean on him, because gravity's wrong for it. It *worked* fine, visually and narratively and emotionally; I just want to nitpick it because I'm in that mood.

Anonymous

Absolutely loved it. All this talk about the "Canon" felt like a middle finger to toxic fans.

TJ Michael

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. That was a JOY to watch. I loved the way they expanded on the visual language of the first film and weren't just slaves to what they'd already made (those editor notes brought me back), I liked that they were willing to try out a slower pacing for the the movie. I just really feel like they could've cut 15-20 minutes out of this thing. Don't get me wrong, all that slower pace Gwen stuff? Perfect. But stuff like having Miles fumble around earth 42 for a bit too long so we can have a "meanwhile back at the ranch" while the really inserting stuff watching Gwen reconnecting to her dad is going on? less so. Also, what's with visually stunning multi-verse movie villains and bagels?

Anonymous

I am blown away at the level of depth they're able to mine out the meta-ness that is the multiverse. It's been fun to see how they've handled this in the marvel movies, but using 'canon-events' (how more meta can you get) as a major point of conflict, and getting the audience to take it seriously? Incredible I also love how we get such great characterization and motives from so many characters so quickly to create conflict around multiple interactions (spot v miles, miles v parents, Gwen v dad, 2099 v everyone). The only thing that I'm concerned about is now there are so many unresolved threads (miles' dad's death, conflict with other spider people, miles vs himself as the prowler) that writing satisfying plot AND character arc AND thematic resolutions seems incredibly difficult, but given how AMAZING the two entries so far have been I am hopeful

Anonymous

I don't think it's about leaning on somebody for physical support

Anonymous

IS it just Miles’ dad that needs to be worried about here? Because I count two police captains, one of which is *the* ASM-90 originator, George Stacey.

Anonymous

I found it interesting that the CBLDF would license the seal in a context that makes it look awesome rather than the oppressive tool it was for so many decades.

Anonymous

Yeah, the unspoken threat against Gwen's dad is a subtle thread through the movie, relieved when he says he quit and therefore won't be captain anymore. So yeah they might've lost that thread if Canon Event ASM-90 were more broad or vague, but I think Gwen had enough going on in her storyline that it wouldn't have hurt the film much

Anonymous

Oooo you mentioned Disco Elysium... I'd love to read your thoughts on it

Anonymous

I like the broad idea of Miles’ story now being about proving he belongs / proving that doing things his own way is legit. However, thus far, I find some of the major plot specifics of this story annoying: 1. The notion of police captain deaths being integral to the very infrastructure of a universe is distractingly arbitrary. There’s no logical cause and effect here (as there might have been if the writers chose, say, Uncle Ben-equivalent deaths, with Miguel thinking these are inherently tied to one’s motivation to become a Spider-Person). What’s more, it makes it seem a bit too much like every world revolves around its Spider-Person (which ain’t all that far from the whole ‘magic blood’ thing?). I was able to move past that though. But once I did…
 2. Taking his theory at face value, honestly, I think Miguel’s right? As unimaginably hard as it would be for Miles’ to let his father die (I don’t presume I would have the courage to do so myself) its seems to me likes that’s what should be done, even if there’s only a slim chance of Miguel being right. I would have liked to see a more concrete reason to refute Miguel’s theory, even if it was one I wouldn’t agree with. But all we get (in this movie at least) is Miles essentially saying ‘nah, I don’t buy that, I’m going to do what I want to do anyway’, which makes him seem a little too much like that one person in the family who doesn’t want to get vaccinated. Haven’t seen anyone else saying these things though, which makes me feel like I’ve either missed something or that I’m too much of a cold-hearted utilitarian.