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House of the Dragon 1x8 (Patreon)

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2024-02-23 02:50:01
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Veronia

LETS GOOOO

Melizé

OMG YESSSSS

Melizé

THANK YOUUUUU ❤❤❤❤❤

Wiame

Perfect timing

Nrock23

Do I stay up for this? Yes

RipIsMySon

This is so G of y’all!

icynub

Damn it i was about to sleep

Melizé

LETS FREAKING GOOOOO!

alexis ♡︎

JUST MADE DINNER LETS GO

Macy

HELL YEAH!!

Kim555

HELLO?? I just finished episode 7. I was not expecting a double drop 😭😭 thank you so much Carter our lord and savior

The Quadfather (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 It’s Brigs o’clock!
2024-02-23 02:53:46 It’s Brigs o’clock!

It’s Brigs o’clock!

SilverAtlas

Viserys. In the books he comes out as kind of a bum, but the show makes him such a great character. Even George said the show version is so much better than what he wrote and that's saying something.

Frank Francis

I wasn't having a great evening, but you guys provided entertainment with these 2 releases. Thank you

Kim555

I literally ate lunch to episode 7 and now I’m gonna get dessert and coffee to episode 8 because I’m an ipad kid and I can’t watch anything without eating. Is this normal?

Autumn

Ahhh so excited to start watching y’all’s reaction to this one! It’s so many people’s favorite of the season. I can’t believe y’all only have 2 episodes left 🤞

Arctic_stark

I just ordered a pizza for this. Thanks for the double drop guys!

IreonnaOreo

Thanks guys have a good night

Stannis the Mannis (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Aemond got that 5 Star LB genetics
2024-02-23 03:01:00 Aemond got that 5 Star LB genetics

Aemond got that 5 Star LB genetics

Ana

Omg my fav episode. This whole episode was beautiful. Viserys got one happy moment. RIP to king viserys the peaceful and my favorite character 😩😩😩 I'm so sad cuz they were finally being a family and things were looking good. Like why couldn't he just die and not say anything 😂😂

Justin Callang

Although 7 is my favorite, 8 is the juiciest

Wiame

He can keep his tongue 💀💀💀

Wiame

Imagine if they used different names instead of naming every single baby Aegon! None of this would’ve happened 😭

McKay Carter

This show slaps so hard

Wiame

I love Viserys but him undoing everything he did at the end made me lose it

Savannah

This episode made me cry the first time I saw it, because I saw my dad in Viserys. He had multiple sclerosis and couldn't walk or even move much at all towards the end of his life, but despite that he always did the best he could for his family, trying to arrange trips together and even helping and supporting me with moving to a different country. Viserys might not be the best king, but I love him lol 😭♥️

Ana
>>130440399

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️sorry for your loss

arcv

Thank you guys for this double upload

bateman bookworm

lmao alicent heard prince that was promised and aegon and ran with it😭 i mean she was already pushing for her son she just needed to hear this to confirm it

Seth Aasland

the first time i watched viserys pull up in that throne room i got major chills

Philbo

McKay Looking at the camera - oh yeah we know lol my thing is Viserys was as high as the 7 gods on milk of the poppy saying all types of shit that you know damn well had nothing to do with your bum of a son lol like sure you can say alicent is easy to sympthaize with because of her upbringing but as she is an adult she still acts the same way if not worse then how she was so i think sympathy goes out the window at this point. also Jack was right about what he said before the video cut off. the entire story of house of the dragon takes place WAY before GoT takes place so its honestly fine. other wise everyone wouldve said to watch GoT first then this. also i think there is going to be 4 seasons to tell the full story of house of the dragon

Dana Sow

Amond is another reason i'm team green. He's so badass. And regarding Alicent, in episode 3, Viserys told her about his dream about having a son who would become King. I don't think its hard to believe that Alicent thinks Visery is telling her to help their son become King. Alicent like most women during this time is a very acquiescent. She does what her father wants, and if she believes her husband now wants the same thing, she could easily be convinced to do it out of duty. I also think Alicent desperately wants to believe that Viserys choose Aegon to be king because Viserys was somewhat neglectful to his children with Alicent. Part of it is because how sick he was, and also because he didn't appear to be as connected to them. I think apart of Alicent thinking he wants Aegon to be King, is her wanting to believe that Viserys did love their children.

Anonymous

Aemond didn’t start the beef it was lucerys he was taunting him when the servants brought the pig . And lucerys is the 1 who took his eye

IchiGoat (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 yooo this episode is just perfect. makes me so hype for you guys to see GOT. the way viserys was talking about aegons dream the song of ice and fire gave me chills.
2024-02-23 04:28:54 yooo this episode is just perfect. makes me so hype for you guys to see GOT. the way viserys was talking about aegons dream the song of ice and fire gave me chills.

yooo this episode is just perfect. makes me so hype for you guys to see GOT. the way viserys was talking about aegons dream the song of ice and fire gave me chills.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Since you guys were talking about GOT there is a major spoiler in it but it is in season 3. That’s a spoiler you don’t want to know if you are watching HOTD. HOTD is 4 seasons. Other reactors have their mods tell them where the spoilers are and they just skip that part in GOT because it’s not important to the story. But How House Targaryen is doing in GOT is revealed in the first episode so some may consider that a spoiler as is the situation in the north in the first episode.

alexis ♡︎

AHHH this episode is like a 9.9 in my opinion. the music, the ACTING, the DIALOGUE, the cinematography, literally everything about it is so well done i don’t have a single bad thing to say about it 😭 so many things happen but it’s paced so well and the shifts in the atmospheres between scenes are so seamless!! might be a hot take but this is probably in my top 5 eps from this universe 🫣 maybe top 10 i haven’t rewatched got in a minute but still, SO GOOD 😩

GBuckets

this show is seriously one of the best reactions you guys have done. Yall are just so invested to the story compared to any other show/anime you guys have reacted to. If you think this is good, you're gonna love Game of Thrones

JJ

If a child, has a Valyrian mother, and a father, who is not a Valerian blood what does that make the child? A child with Valyrian blood.

Slizzle

There is a major spoiler in game of thrones about hoise of dragon, but its just in one convo so you would only have to skip that part, idk what episode that is tho

Rayanh LaNansha

They didn't steal the name "Aegon" from Alicent's son. Many Targaryen name their sons Aegon after Aegon the Conqueror, who has been mentionned several times throughout the story. He's basically an entity they look up to; aspire to. Also I doubt Jace being slow at learning the Valeryan language has anythin g to do with his lineage. He's still a Targaryen and he's just slow at learning it.

sushi

this episode is interesting because you can clearly see the difference between rhaenyra's sons and alicent's. rhaenyra's sons are gentlemen and kind while alicent's are the complete opposite. that in itself says a lot.

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin

In the book it says that Rhaenyra named her own kid after Aegon the Conqueror as an insult to Alicent and her Aegon. Then again book Rhaenyra is way pettier than tv show Rhaenyra.

Enma

There's really only one major spoiler in GOT, and it's like 15 seconds long, so you could easily skip it when the time comes.

A

The way Viserys standing on business for his daughter brought tears to my eyes 🥹 he’s made so many bad decisions and failed in so many ways but he wasn’t going to fail his daughter. The daughter of his love, Aemma, and his rightful heir. Whew

aubrey

WHOS READY FOR THE HOTD FINALEEEE!!

Ana
>>130445919

Book Rhaenerya is not the true Rhaenerya though. Remember dance of dragons is told from biased and unreliable sources. The show is showing the actual events. What really happened. Like in the books it is said that Rhaenerya is fat and not attractive due to not losing the baby weight. We see here that's she's beautiful and slender

A

I think Rhaenys changed her mind after seeing Viserys back up Rhaenyra so so strongly and then calling upon her to get her viewpoint. I think it that was really important to her (like her opinion matters) and also important to uphold her husband’s wishes in order for their family to succeed

Mai

“how is aegon such a bum?” because his mother is alicent lmaooo

TheSauceGuy

Am I the only one who thinks Jace really looks like Ser Criston Cole? Obviously, Cole isn't the father based on the time he was born though.

Ana

So that wasn't Jason Lannister the guy Rhaenerya rejected on the council. That was his twin brother. I forget his name but he's been on the council since the beginning

TheSauceGuy

Will you guys watch Game of Thrones after season 2 of House of the Dragon or maybe even start it before season 2? HOTD is going to have more than two seasons.

jblakk
>>130445919

Worth noting that the Dance of the Dragons book is from the Maesters perspective. Imo the show is the unbiased official telling of the story.

Zakki
>>130443450

Bro, Viserys got up from his death bed after months (probably years) of just lying around for death to claim him, simply to sit on the throne and reaffirm Luke as heir to Driftmark. That, in itself, once again reaffirms that Rhaenyra is his heir, because the only reason why *Luke* would be the one to inherit Driftmark and not Jace - the first born - is because Jace would be the Prince of Dragonstone/heir to Rhaenyra. Viserys went through all that effort with a clear mind, adding to the 20 years of upholding Rhaenyra’s claim despite Aegon’s birth. The fact that Alicent chose to pay attention to Viserys’ words when he was drunk on milk of the poppy, while ignoring what went down *on that same day* while he was fully lucid, is completely delusional on her part.

jblakk
>>130445768

Im team Black, so I dont wanna defend Alicent too much, but it doesnt have to be her fault that theyre the way they are. Luce and Jace had a mom who basically didnt have responsibilities and who could raise them to be kind men AS WELL as had two dads(now three) who take care of them. Meanwhile Aemond and Aegon had a dying father king who barely spoke to them, and an overworked crazed mother looking to get them into power. They didnt have the child-rearing they deserve, and its the systems fault more than it is Alicents.

Princess Zuma
>>130443450

I honestly don't understand why people are team black. Greens are more badass, in my opinion.

Princess Zuma

Unfortunately speaking the truth usually gets you killed in this world. RIP Vaemond 🙏 He went out standing on business

Vernus

Oh damn we already here. A blessing

Mitch

Viseryes is top 5 characters in the whole Got verse for me with Paddy Considine giving a 10/10 performance for him. He was sadly robbed of an Emmy for s1. The entire throne room walk and scene is one of my fav in all of Got as well, I get goosebumps no matter how many times I watch it. Such a goated character and def my fav in HOTD.

Mitch
>>130448612

Exactly, I think her seeing Viserys in such a state still defending Rhaenyra strongly influenced her decision, cause she def respected Viseryes alot

A

I hope we get the finale soon 🙏🏾

Mitch

One note, George rr Martin (the author of the Got books) came out in an interview after HoTD aired and said Viseryes portrayal and character in the show was many times better than in the books (giving major credit to Paddy Considine) and said that it was so good that he plans on writing an entire story about his reign.

A
>>130448612

She gained so much respect! They’re very alike actually I just realized that

Ana

Aegon was Aemond's main bully though. Jace and Luke were super young. Aegon is the one who would put them up to it. If you look back on the episodes of them as kids. Aegon actually liked Jace and Luke more than Aemond.

Hunter Snider

I was sad Paddy Considine didn't win an Emmy for his performance tbh. Not that the award shows matter much. But he was so impressive and nuanced, Viserys is such a compelling mix of compassionate, humorous, frustrating, noble, and a bunch of other things all at the same time. Way more compelling a characterization than the source material actually lol. I've watched the throne scene and his dinner speech scene a million times

Ana
>>130443450

Alicent didn't even believe Aegon would be a good king. She barely likes him. She heard what she wanted to hear

Ana
>>130450490

True due to Paddy's beautiful acting. This ranks higher than a lot of GoT for me. GoT is still my fav though

Michael H

That throne scene…

mixi

funny how daemon and rhaenyra where blaming alicent for viserys’ condition when they’ve been gone for 6 years and alicent’s been actually taking care of him 🫠🫠🫠

mixi
>>130448810

this is a fine example of some subtle misogyny lmao remember that they have another parent and he’s an absent father. alicent is not a good mother, but she was forced to have children when she was still a child at 15 while rhaenyra had her kids older and had time to raise them cuz she fled to dragonstone away from the politics.

Trainer Red

Alicent doesn't know about the "Song of Ice and Fire", but she does know (back in episode 3) that Viserys had a "dream" of having a son that would become king, and he admitted to her, in that episode while he was drunk, he had doubts about naming his daughter as heir. He of course made up his mind afterwards and reassured Rhynaera, but Alicent wasn't there for that part. Also, I'm sure she only heard what she wanted to hear as well.

Wiame

“I feel like this guy’s ( Vaemond) gonna die” Mckay ep2 51:44 : he indeed died 💀

Mai
>>130448810

visery & alicent can both choke so now what? “mIsOgINy” my ass 🖕🏻

Mai
>>130448810

having a baby at 15 doesn’t excuse your ADULT actions. she abuses her children. fuck her. babying her is pathetic.

Misael Lopez

Why do I feel like jack and mckay haven’t realized who aemond and aegon are yet lol

sushi
>>130445768

i see where you are coming from, i never thought of it that way. at the same time i think alicent didn’t really try enough. she didn’t want to be a mother and it was obvious and still is it’s almost as if she despises her children. rhaenyra didn’t want children either but she treats her kids very well. there is a very big difference between how they both treat and discipline their kids. because alicent’s kids didn’t have a present father figure alicent should’ve put in triple the effort to raise them right but it’s so obvious she doesn’t even view them as humans.

Misael Lopez
>>130455084

*Spoilers* aegon is the mad king and aemond is the maester from the nights watch

Misael Lopez
>>130455084

I can’t wait for them to watch game of thrones, has me geeked outta my mind

Wadzi
>>130438528

You guys can start GOT straight after HOTD season 1 as there is only one major spoiler which is in S3 and is only a short conversation that you can skip. Trust me you dont want to delay getting into the Goated show that is GOT 🙂 I love HOTD but GOT especially Seasons 1 to 6 are on another level of EPIC.

Savannah
>>130455084

The mad king's name was Aerys. This is way longer than that before game of thrones. Those characters haven't been born yet

afrodude
>>130455084

mad king is aerys and the maester's name is aemon, not aemond. totally different characters and this takes place too long before GoT for that to be possible

icynub
>>130455084

Bro I didn’t realise even though I watched GOT like five times I didn’t know til I looked up the house tree line

icynub
>>130448810

I mean she was against getting married young the boom she got her daughter married way younger then she was

BipolarKitten

In another universe, at the dinner table. Aemond: I’m a genius. Ask me a sum Lucerys: Nah, you’re OK Aemond: No, C’mon. Please. Lucerys: It’s not like I don’t believe you. I believe… Aemond: F**KING ASK ME A SUM THEN!!!!! Different characters, same actor, same level of creep.

Poragami

now you have to finish HotD this week, it's only fair for everyone that's anticipating GoT lmao

Jed
>>130455084

These kids arent them. This is 200 years before GOT. Aemond just has the same name and Aegon was named after the conquerer.

Stannis the Mannis (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Yeah it shows Luke and Jace are pussies compared to the capable men that Alicent’s sons are. We saw how they clowned on Rhaenyra’s midget bastards during the dinner table “fight”.
2024-02-23 13:55:21 Yeah it shows Luke and Jace are pussies compared to the capable men that Alicent’s sons are. We saw how they clowned on Rhaenyra’s midget bastards during the dinner table “fight”.
>>130445768

Yeah it shows Luke and Jace are pussies compared to the capable men that Alicent’s sons are. We saw how they clowned on Rhaenyra’s midget bastards during the dinner table “fight”.

Stannis the Mannis (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Yeah sure keep telling yourself that. The show version is 10x as biased and changes things to fit modern political and societal themes constantly.
2024-02-23 13:55:59 Yeah sure keep telling yourself that. The show version is 10x as biased and changes things to fit modern political and societal themes constantly.
>>130445919

Yeah sure keep telling yourself that. The show version is 10x as biased and changes things to fit modern political and societal themes constantly.

ElleS

I can’t wrap my head around people who watched GOT rooting for team green. I sympathize with Alicent because she was just 14 when was “forced” to wed the king, but she’s not a child anymore and kept feeding hate to her children towards their own sister. Rhaenyra is the rightful heir by right of birth, order of the king and prophecy. * GOT SPOILERS * The prince that was promised was born through Rhaenyra bloodline and not Aegon’s, so just for that, team green supporters need to be checked because something ain’t adding up 😂 (if they watched GOT of course) Just like Viserys said in ep 2 or 3: “what is the power of a dragon compared to the power of prophecy?”

Jed

Something important to know is the Hightowers are the family that employs the Maesters and the order of the Seven (the 7 pointed star) So not only have they essentially taken over the throne they have seated people of power through corruption and greed. Their own religion is now preached to all of the kingdom and the castle has been redecorated in a custom fassion to their religion. Along with the fact that the Maesters are very important as they are doctors,scholars,historians, and knowledge keepers. The hightowers have basically usruped the throne by secret. They also keep Viserys under heavy doses of milk of the poppy in order to keep him alive and subtle, allowing them to rein without his own thoughts and wishes changing their plans. Anyone who is on team Green is very blind to the hypocrasy and greed that is going on in the book/show. The only thing Raenayra and team Black have done wrong is have bastard children. Other than that they legit havent done anything out of greed or unfairness. I seriously could never understand why there are team Green supporters out there. They are literally the villains of this story and are the reason so many wars and atrocities have been created.

icynub
>>130455084

Not them he’s talking about rhaenyra’s and Deamon’s children

sushi
>>130445768

there is a difference between being a “pussy” and being kind. a smart man holds his tongue while a foolish one let’s it free. alicent’s sons aren’t capable. aegon is an incapable ruler, stupid, and also let’s his mind be swayed by his mommy and grandfather, while aemond is still stuck in the shadows of his older brother and unable to escape that. being disrespectful and foolish isn’t being capable.

icynub
>>130455084

The mad king his name wasn’t aegon it was aerys

sushi
>>130445919

GRR Martin has said himself the books are biased and unreliable so you’re wrong

Stannis the Mannis (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 First of all, spoilers. Sure genocidal Dany descended from Rhaenyra’s blood so I guess that is a plus for the Blacks. This also doesn’t consider all the HORRIBLE Targaryen’s that descended from Rhaenyra’s bloodline. Aegon III “Dragonbane” let all the dragons die out lol what a terrible Targaryen. Daeron the dumbass fought a pointless war and got himself killed the process. He was followed by Baelor the Befuddled who locked his sisters in a room so they wouldn’t tempt him with their wanton ways. (Very progressive for Rhaenyra’s descendants). Who was likely killed and murdered by his own blood and replaced by Viserys II who only ruled for one year. Then arguable the worst king in Targaryen history (other than Viserys I) takes over. Aegon IV literally DESTROYED the Targaryen house and name. (This is who you are proud of being Rhaenyra’s descendent btw.) Who caused countless death and destruction thanks to involving his bastards in the line of succession (sounds like Rhaenyra) Then you have psychos like Aerys Brightflame, The Mad King, and retards like Rhaegar who got smashed at the Trident and caused the fall of the Targaryen dynasty. This is the legacy of Rhaenyra’s “descendants” - psychos, rapists, kinslayers, kidnappers, and hedonic monsters. Though tbf Rhaenyra does fall under a lot of those categories as well.
2024-02-23 15:01:53 First of all, spoilers. Sure genocidal Dany descended from Rhaenyra’s blood so I guess that is a plus for the Blacks. This also doesn’t consider all the HORRIBLE Targaryen’s that descended from Rhaenyra’s bloodline. Aegon III “Dragonbane” let all the dragons die out lol what a terrible Targaryen. Daeron the dumbass fought a pointless war and got himself killed the process. He was followed by Baelor the Befuddled who locked his sisters in a room so they wouldn’t tempt him with their wanton ways. (Very progressive for Rhaenyra’s descendants). Who was likely killed and murdered by his own blood and replaced by Viserys II who only ruled for one year. Then arguable the worst king in Targaryen history (other than Viserys I) takes over. Aegon IV literally DESTROYED the Targaryen house and name. (This is who you are proud of being Rhaenyra’s descendent btw.) Who caused countless death and destruction thanks to involving his bastards in the line of succession (sounds like Rhaenyra) Then you have psychos like Aerys Brightflame, The Mad King, and retards like Rhaegar who got smashed at the Trident and caused the fall of the Targaryen dynasty. This is the legacy of Rhaenyra’s “descendants” - psychos, rapists, kinslayers, kidnappers, and hedonic monsters. Though tbf Rhaenyra does fall under a lot of those categories as well.
>>130470610

First of all, spoilers. Sure genocidal Dany descended from Rhaenyra’s blood so I guess that is a plus for the Blacks. This also doesn’t consider all the HORRIBLE Targaryen’s that descended from Rhaenyra’s bloodline. Aegon III “Dragonbane” let all the dragons die out lol what a terrible Targaryen. Daeron the dumbass fought a pointless war and got himself killed the process. He was followed by Baelor the Befuddled who locked his sisters in a room so they wouldn’t tempt him with their wanton ways. (Very progressive for Rhaenyra’s descendants). Who was likely killed and murdered by his own blood and replaced by Viserys II who only ruled for one year. Then arguable the worst king in Targaryen history (other than Viserys I) takes over. Aegon IV literally DESTROYED the Targaryen house and name. (This is who you are proud of being Rhaenyra’s descendent btw.) Who caused countless death and destruction thanks to involving his bastards in the line of succession (sounds like Rhaenyra) Then you have psychos like Aerys Brightflame, The Mad King, and retards like Rhaegar who got smashed at the Trident and caused the fall of the Targaryen dynasty. This is the legacy of Rhaenyra’s “descendants” - psychos, rapists, kinslayers, kidnappers, and hedonic monsters. Though tbf Rhaenyra does fall under a lot of those categories as well.

Stannis the Mannis (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Rhaenyra should have been stripped of the heir status and given to the silent sisters after episode 4. The throne is no place for people who put their own personal desires and sexual wishes above the realm. Imagine how much better Westeros would be if Rhaenyra had been given away to a life of piety and prayer. How many lives would have been saved I wonder?
2024-02-23 15:11:11 Rhaenyra should have been stripped of the heir status and given to the silent sisters after episode 4. The throne is no place for people who put their own personal desires and sexual wishes above the realm. Imagine how much better Westeros would be if Rhaenyra had been given away to a life of piety and prayer. How many lives would have been saved I wonder?
>>130471266

Rhaenyra should have been stripped of the heir status and given to the silent sisters after episode 4. The throne is no place for people who put their own personal desires and sexual wishes above the realm. Imagine how much better Westeros would be if Rhaenyra had been given away to a life of piety and prayer. How many lives would have been saved I wonder?

Stannis the Mannis (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Jace and Luke couldn’t bench 135 of their life depended on it. They are terrible examples for what you want a young man to be in Westeros. Recall this is pseudo medieval times, not a Cal-Berkeley gender studies class. Soft and sweet Jace and Luke are pussies when compare to Aemond.
2024-02-23 15:14:38 Jace and Luke couldn’t bench 135 of their life depended on it. They are terrible examples for what you want a young man to be in Westeros. Recall this is pseudo medieval times, not a Cal-Berkeley gender studies class. Soft and sweet Jace and Luke are pussies when compare to Aemond.
>>130445768

Jace and Luke couldn’t bench 135 of their life depended on it. They are terrible examples for what you want a young man to be in Westeros. Recall this is pseudo medieval times, not a Cal-Berkeley gender studies class. Soft and sweet Jace and Luke are pussies when compare to Aemond.

Stannis the Mannis (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Yeah I’m sure they are so unreliable that they messed up Rhaenyra and Alicent’s ages. The show wanted to go with a more modern sapphic gay bait love story with Alicent and Rhaenyra:. How can you pretend this is the same canon as Fire and Blood? This shit is Ryan Condal fan fiction
2024-02-23 15:16:27 Yeah I’m sure they are so unreliable that they messed up Rhaenyra and Alicent’s ages. The show wanted to go with a more modern sapphic gay bait love story with Alicent and Rhaenyra:. How can you pretend this is the same canon as Fire and Blood? This shit is Ryan Condal fan fiction
>>130445919

Yeah I’m sure they are so unreliable that they messed up Rhaenyra and Alicent’s ages. The show wanted to go with a more modern sapphic gay bait love story with Alicent and Rhaenyra:. How can you pretend this is the same canon as Fire and Blood? This shit is Ryan Condal fan fiction

ElleS
>>130470610

If you are such a hater of the Targaryens, why are you watching the show? 😂 just to hate on them? And again, the show is based on a prophecy so, Aegon was not destined to sit on the Iron Throne, he only did so through corruption and self-interested people. Same with Daemon, he was not destined to be king.

Stannis the Mannis (edited)

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Because I like ASOIAF and House Hightower who are arguably the richest., strongest, smartest, and most politically saavy house in all of Westeros history.
2024-02-23 15:18:31 Because I like ASOIAF and House Hightower who are arguably the richest., strongest, smartest, and most politically saavy house in all of Westeros history.
>>130470610

Because I like ASOIAF and House Hightower who are arguably the richest., strongest, smartest, and most politically saavy house in all of Westeros history.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Daemon and Rhaenyra are worth less than the scum on Alicent’s shoe
2024-02-23 15:21:22 Daemon and Rhaenyra are worth less than the scum on Alicent’s shoe
>>130452813

Daemon and Rhaenyra are worth less than the scum on Alicent’s shoe

sushi
>>130445768

you defending a literal rapist is beyond me. any man who rapes a woman is no real man i assure you. GRR Martin gives us very good example of what “men” like Aegon are fated to at the end. conveniently he takes up after Maegor the Cruel, and he is very similar to Joffrey Lannister and we all know where they ended up… on the other hand, he gives us good examples of what good leaders are, and you can be kind and a good leader at the same time. we see that in Tyrion Lannister and Jon Snow.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 HOTD is trying to tell an “unworthy man” and “worthy woman” plot so obvious you could see it from space. Could you imagine if the first scene with Rhaenyra (as a minor) was of her masturbating with clear nudity in frame. That’s how they introduced Aegon’s character in episode 6. Then in episode 8 when we are supposed to meet the grown-up version of him the writers poison the well by having him be a rapist of a girl clearly younger than him that DID NOT EXIST IN FIRE AND BLOOD. So why did the writers add these pointless rape plot? Either to act as an apology for all the rape and controversy GOT had, or it was for the explicit purpose of turning the audience completely against the Greens in a narrative moment where they should be at their highest. (Alicent, Aemond, and Aegon standing on business last episode, now they should be grown up and more involved characters, and now they are ruling in KL. And before the viewer can even make up their own mind about adult Aemond, they frame him as the worst scum on earth, even giving him makeup to appear uglier when the actor is extremely attractive. But the showrunners couldn’t keep Rhaenyra being fat (which is clearly canon in the books) after 6 pregnancies since that was obviously “maester misogyny”.
2024-02-23 15:34:15 HOTD is trying to tell an “unworthy man” and “worthy woman” plot so obvious you could see it from space. Could you imagine if the first scene with Rhaenyra (as a minor) was of her masturbating with clear nudity in frame. That’s how they introduced Aegon’s character in episode 6. Then in episode 8 when we are supposed to meet the grown-up version of him the writers poison the well by having him be a rapist of a girl clearly younger than him that DID NOT EXIST IN FIRE AND BLOOD. So why did the writers add these pointless rape plot? Either to act as an apology for all the rape and controversy GOT had, or it was for the explicit purpose of turning the audience completely against the Greens in a narrative moment where they should be at their highest. (Alicent, Aemond, and Aegon standing on business last episode, now they should be grown up and more involved characters, and now they are ruling in KL. And before the viewer can even make up their own mind about adult Aemond, they frame him as the worst scum on earth, even giving him makeup to appear uglier when the actor is extremely attractive. But the showrunners couldn’t keep Rhaenyra being fat (which is clearly canon in the books) after 6 pregnancies since that was obviously “maester misogyny”.

HOTD is trying to tell an “unworthy man” and “worthy woman” plot so obvious you could see it from space. Could you imagine if the first scene with Rhaenyra (as a minor) was of her masturbating with clear nudity in frame. That’s how they introduced Aegon’s character in episode 6. Then in episode 8 when we are supposed to meet the grown-up version of him the writers poison the well by having him be a rapist of a girl clearly younger than him that DID NOT EXIST IN FIRE AND BLOOD. So why did the writers add these pointless rape plot? Either to act as an apology for all the rape and controversy GOT had, or it was for the explicit purpose of turning the audience completely against the Greens in a narrative moment where they should be at their highest. (Alicent, Aemond, and Aegon standing on business last episode, now they should be grown up and more involved characters, and now they are ruling in KL. And before the viewer can even make up their own mind about adult Aemond, they frame him as the worst scum on earth, even giving him makeup to appear uglier when the actor is extremely attractive. But the showrunners couldn’t keep Rhaenyra being fat (which is clearly canon in the books) after 6 pregnancies since that was obviously “maester misogyny”.

Seth Aasland

this comment section has been riddled with green of recent 🤮🤢

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 OK and we see massive Rhaenyra and Cersei parallels and tons of Alicent and Sansa/Margaery parallels so what are you saying? Comparing Aegon II to Maegor or Joffrey proves you must be mentally incapacitated. The only person on this show shown to be capable of that level of depravity, violence, and crime is Daemon.
2024-02-23 15:48:45 OK and we see massive Rhaenyra and Cersei parallels and tons of Alicent and Sansa/Margaery parallels so what are you saying? Comparing Aegon II to Maegor or Joffrey proves you must be mentally incapacitated. The only person on this show shown to be capable of that level of depravity, violence, and crime is Daemon.
>>130445768

OK and we see massive Rhaenyra and Cersei parallels and tons of Alicent and Sansa/Margaery parallels so what are you saying? Comparing Aegon II to Maegor or Joffrey proves you must be mentally incapacitated. The only person on this show shown to be capable of that level of depravity, violence, and crime is Daemon.

Seth Aasland
>>130477579

(green is actually my favorite color and it pains me that color is used on the side i don’t support 😭)

sushi
>>130445768

i’m convinced you haven’t read the books or watched the shows. there is no parallel between rhaenyra and cersei. rhaenyra was forced into a marriage with a man she couldn’t have kids with she was set up for failure. cersei did everything out of her own volition. you even suggesting there’s a parallel between sansa and alicent is laughable. sansa had a choice, alicent didn’t. sansa had to do everything on her own and rose up from the Lannister mud to a position of power, while everything was handed onto Alicent by her manipulative father. sansa is a self-made, strong, female character with incredible character development and growth. alicent has stayed stagnant since pre time skip hating on rhaenyra out of jealousy and pride while her dad whispers in her ear. alicent isn’t strong she’s gullible.

LeFlaneur
>>130476551

The grass, outside, go touch it. There’s dozens of comments from now to yesterday and a big chunk of it is just you on a unhinged parasocial rant.

Anna
>>130452406

THIS!!! He made Vizzy T such a nuanced and complicated character. Easy to watch, easy to root for, even when you don’t like his choices you understand why he makes them. Fun fact the actor was very proud bc his wig is the only one that perfectly matches Dany’s from GoT 🤣

Anna
>>130450490

One of the best scenes ever on television. Felt like you were in the room with them. The crown falling and Daemon putting it back on his head was unscripted too which is wild

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130445919

The book is meant to be based on several biased versions of the story, but that doesn't mean that the show is "the true unbiased events/what really happened". It's just a different version of the story written to play better on tv. For instance Alicent being ten years younger and having been best friends with Rhaenyra is not something that is true in the show but not in the book because "the biased authors" did not include it in the book. It just got changed by tv writers, like with every adaptation.

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130445919

Also in the book this motivation for naming Aegon was supported both by Mushroom and Alicent, characters who both supported and hated Rhaenyra, which is Martin's way of telling us it is probably true.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Ok clearly you are like 13 if you think Cersei married Robert on her own volition. How DARE YOU accuse me of not reading the books, when you yourself aren’t even aware of Cersei’s personal feelings towards marrying Robert. Seeing as you claim to have read the book, do you recall the chapters where Cersei recalls Robert drunkenly sexually assaulting her? Was that her choice? (Spoilers extended) a parallel between Cersei and Rhaenyra s become apparent that Cersei is the parallel character to Rhaenyra, their similarities are way too big to be ignored, so let's list them. 1) let's start with the obvious ones. Both Cersei and Rhaenyra are extremely beautiful women, they both posses the classic traits of their houses, Rhaenyra has the targaryen pale skin, silver-golden hair and purple eyes. While Cersei has a fair skin, green eyes and golden hair. 2) They both think that they're extremely intelligent women and then make disastrous choices. Like Cersei giving power to the sparrows or Rhaenyra making every decision she ever made. 3) As mentioned before when we meet this characters they're considered ridiculously beautiful, but as time passes their beauty fades, Rhaenyra loses her beauty because of her pregnancys and for eating sweet stuff and Cersei for drinking so much alcohol. 4) They are both really entitled, Rhaenyra is kind of more rightfully so, but she still is. They both think that they deserve the top spot in the kingdom and won't take second places. (Regarding this is side with Rhaenyra because she was then chosen heir). 5) they both grow paranoid and think that everyone is out to get them, 6) they both have bastard children that they claim to be rightful, Rhaenyra has the Strong bastards, who she claims to be her rightful heirs. And Cersei has her inbred children who are Jamie's but she claims to be Robert's. (Three bastad children each).
2024-02-23 16:27:30 Ok clearly you are like 13 if you think Cersei married Robert on her own volition. How DARE YOU accuse me of not reading the books, when you yourself aren’t even aware of Cersei’s personal feelings towards marrying Robert. Seeing as you claim to have read the book, do you recall the chapters where Cersei recalls Robert drunkenly sexually assaulting her? Was that her choice? (Spoilers extended) a parallel between Cersei and Rhaenyra s become apparent that Cersei is the parallel character to Rhaenyra, their similarities are way too big to be ignored, so let's list them. 1) let's start with the obvious ones. Both Cersei and Rhaenyra are extremely beautiful women, they both posses the classic traits of their houses, Rhaenyra has the targaryen pale skin, silver-golden hair and purple eyes. While Cersei has a fair skin, green eyes and golden hair. 2) They both think that they're extremely intelligent women and then make disastrous choices. Like Cersei giving power to the sparrows or Rhaenyra making every decision she ever made. 3) As mentioned before when we meet this characters they're considered ridiculously beautiful, but as time passes their beauty fades, Rhaenyra loses her beauty because of her pregnancys and for eating sweet stuff and Cersei for drinking so much alcohol. 4) They are both really entitled, Rhaenyra is kind of more rightfully so, but she still is. They both think that they deserve the top spot in the kingdom and won't take second places. (Regarding this is side with Rhaenyra because she was then chosen heir). 5) they both grow paranoid and think that everyone is out to get them, 6) they both have bastard children that they claim to be rightful, Rhaenyra has the Strong bastards, who she claims to be her rightful heirs. And Cersei has her inbred children who are Jamie's but she claims to be Robert's. (Three bastad children each).
>>130445768

Ok clearly you are like 13 if you think Cersei married Robert on her own volition. How DARE YOU accuse me of not reading the books, when you yourself aren’t even aware of Cersei’s personal feelings towards marrying Robert. Seeing as you claim to have read the book, do you recall the chapters where Cersei recalls Robert drunkenly sexually assaulting her? Was that her choice? (Spoilers extended) a parallel between Cersei and Rhaenyra s become apparent that Cersei is the parallel character to Rhaenyra, their similarities are way too big to be ignored, so let's list them. 1) let's start with the obvious ones. Both Cersei and Rhaenyra are extremely beautiful women, they both posses the classic traits of their houses, Rhaenyra has the targaryen pale skin, silver-golden hair and purple eyes. While Cersei has a fair skin, green eyes and golden hair. 2) They both think that they're extremely intelligent women and then make disastrous choices. Like Cersei giving power to the sparrows or Rhaenyra making every decision she ever made. 3) As mentioned before when we meet this characters they're considered ridiculously beautiful, but as time passes their beauty fades, Rhaenyra loses her beauty because of her pregnancys and for eating sweet stuff and Cersei for drinking so much alcohol. 4) They are both really entitled, Rhaenyra is kind of more rightfully so, but she still is. They both think that they deserve the top spot in the kingdom and won't take second places. (Regarding this is side with Rhaenyra because she was then chosen heir). 5) they both grow paranoid and think that everyone is out to get them, 6) they both have bastard children that they claim to be rightful, Rhaenyra has the Strong bastards, who she claims to be her rightful heirs. And Cersei has her inbred children who are Jamie's but she claims to be Robert's. (Three bastad children each).

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 THANK YOU. The show is just taking the outline of Fire and Blood and changing it around to accommodate modern American audiences.
2024-02-23 16:30:10 THANK YOU. The show is just taking the outline of Fire and Blood and changing it around to accommodate modern American audiences.
>>130445919

THANK YOU. The show is just taking the outline of Fire and Blood and changing it around to accommodate modern American audiences.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 The only rights Rhaenyra has is the right to bend her neck underneath the sword of justice
2024-02-23 16:33:19 The only rights Rhaenyra has is the right to bend her neck underneath the sword of justice
>>130446825

The only rights Rhaenyra has is the right to bend her neck underneath the sword of justice

Anna
>>130476551

Odd how you’re defending a character who has fathered multiple bastards in the slums of the city and is letting them fight to the death in child fighting rings…but sure hate Rhaenyra

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Yeah but lots of lords have bastards, they aren’t trying to make them heir to the throne. Every Targaryen who has tried to put bastards on the throne faces justice for their crimes eventually.
2024-02-23 16:38:30 Yeah but lots of lords have bastards, they aren’t trying to make them heir to the throne. Every Targaryen who has tried to put bastards on the throne faces justice for their crimes eventually.
>>130476551

Yeah but lots of lords have bastards, they aren’t trying to make them heir to the throne. Every Targaryen who has tried to put bastards on the throne faces justice for their crimes eventually.

Jed
>>130471266

Its not worth debating with you ive seen you on every comment and I know you are a Aemond fanboy because of the name and pfp. I’ll I will say is Alicent literally does those things first and that it doesnt matter if Raenayra’s kids were gonna be bastards or not, either way Alicent and Otto were gonna use their power to gain the throne because they are horrible people with no honor. Team Green is literally the reason the realm turns into chaos and the hightowers have always been the mastermind. They have guarded the book on how to kill dragons at the citadel for centuries. End of debate.

sushi
>>130445768

these are all similarities none of which proves a parallel that would directly connect rhaenyra to cersei.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 I was hoping we were getting a quad drop to celebrate me being quadzilla but it’s okay
2024-02-23 16:45:36 I was hoping we were getting a quad drop to celebrate me being quadzilla but it’s okay

I was hoping we were getting a quad drop to celebrate me being quadzilla but it’s okay

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 And that is a bad thing? The Valyrian empire was one of genocide, slavery, and brutal conquest. Dragons are evil monstrous beasts that were used to advance genocidal regimes. Meanwhile the Hightowers have ruled peacefully and prosperously for THOUSANDS OF YEARS before and after the Targaryen's came to Westeros. Oldtown is the largest, most populous, cleanest, wealthiest, and smartest city in Westeros. Home to the center of learning and faith for the ENTIRE CONTINENT who accepts people to become maesters and septons from ALL WALKS OF LIFE. There is no where in Westeros more prosperous and advanced than Oldtown, which the Hightowers have ruled for millenia.
2024-02-23 16:46:15 And that is a bad thing? The Valyrian empire was one of genocide, slavery, and brutal conquest. Dragons are evil monstrous beasts that were used to advance genocidal regimes. Meanwhile the Hightowers have ruled peacefully and prosperously for THOUSANDS OF YEARS before and after the Targaryen's came to Westeros. Oldtown is the largest, most populous, cleanest, wealthiest, and smartest city in Westeros. Home to the center of learning and faith for the ENTIRE CONTINENT who accepts people to become maesters and septons from ALL WALKS OF LIFE. There is no where in Westeros more prosperous and advanced than Oldtown, which the Hightowers have ruled for millenia.
>>130471266

And that is a bad thing? The Valyrian empire was one of genocide, slavery, and brutal conquest. Dragons are evil monstrous beasts that were used to advance genocidal regimes. Meanwhile the Hightowers have ruled peacefully and prosperously for THOUSANDS OF YEARS before and after the Targaryen's came to Westeros. Oldtown is the largest, most populous, cleanest, wealthiest, and smartest city in Westeros. Home to the center of learning and faith for the ENTIRE CONTINENT who accepts people to become maesters and septons from ALL WALKS OF LIFE. There is no where in Westeros more prosperous and advanced than Oldtown, which the Hightowers have ruled for millenia.

Kale
>>130476551

Bro you fr gotta go take a nap or sum 😭 you gotta chill tf out it genuinely isn’t that deep

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130445919

The changes are necessary. If you are to take a story that was written as a historical account and turn it into a tv show you have to make the characters more sympathetic and interesting, for instance you can't have Alicent be the one note evil step-mother she was in the book. For the most part I think they did an excellent job at that and I don't agree with any of the comments you've made on the subject so don't thank me,lol.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 You do realize similarities in characterization between two characters over 100 years apart from each other is the definition of what a parallel is in storytelling? I mean this honesty, have you ever gone to college or taking English 101? Not sure how someone could look at these massive similarities between lifestyle, personal appearance, and family dynamics that exist between Cersei and Rhaenyra's characters and NOT act like they are meant to be paralleled. It is clear cognitive dissonance, you just do not want Rhaenyra to be associated with Cersei despite the mountain of evidence that proves that GRRM intended a parallel when writing Fire and Blood.
2024-02-23 16:55:24 You do realize similarities in characterization between two characters over 100 years apart from each other is the definition of what a parallel is in storytelling? I mean this honesty, have you ever gone to college or taking English 101? Not sure how someone could look at these massive similarities between lifestyle, personal appearance, and family dynamics that exist between Cersei and Rhaenyra's characters and NOT act like they are meant to be paralleled. It is clear cognitive dissonance, you just do not want Rhaenyra to be associated with Cersei despite the mountain of evidence that proves that GRRM intended a parallel when writing Fire and Blood.
>>130445768

You do realize similarities in characterization between two characters over 100 years apart from each other is the definition of what a parallel is in storytelling? I mean this honesty, have you ever gone to college or taking English 101? Not sure how someone could look at these massive similarities between lifestyle, personal appearance, and family dynamics that exist between Cersei and Rhaenyra's characters and NOT act like they are meant to be paralleled. It is clear cognitive dissonance, you just do not want Rhaenyra to be associated with Cersei despite the mountain of evidence that proves that GRRM intended a parallel when writing Fire and Blood.

sushi
>>130445768

you’re resorting to name calling and insults because you’re clearly wrong and that’s what people who have nothing left to say do. and now i know you have not read the book, because you copied your statement off reddit, while simultaneously denying the similarities between Aegon II, Maegor, and Joffrey and even defending Aegon II as a rapist. you also claim that sansa and alicent are parallels which is completely false and the opposite. you really are a joke. if anything there’s a parallel between cersei and alicent.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 The debate wasn’t about Valyrian blood tho. It was only about Velarion blood
2024-02-23 17:04:53 The debate wasn’t about Valyrian blood tho. It was only about Velarion blood
>>130444734

The debate wasn’t about Valyrian blood tho. It was only about Velarion blood

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 not gonna get lectured by someone with Hodor-level reading comprehension who can’t interpret an obvious parallel between two characters. Stay in school Ms. Short Bus.
2024-02-23 17:15:27 not gonna get lectured by someone with Hodor-level reading comprehension who can’t interpret an obvious parallel between two characters. Stay in school Ms. Short Bus.
>>130445768

not gonna get lectured by someone with Hodor-level reading comprehension who can’t interpret an obvious parallel between two characters. Stay in school Ms. Short Bus.

Jed

Oh btw King Viserys has leprosy, it is not grey scale!

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 That would be whoever defends Rhaenyra. We saw her rape Criston, we never actually saw the truth of what happened with Dyana.
2024-02-23 18:04:52 That would be whoever defends Rhaenyra. We saw her rape Criston, we never actually saw the truth of what happened with Dyana.
>>130445768

That would be whoever defends Rhaenyra. We saw her rape Criston, we never actually saw the truth of what happened with Dyana.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Anyone else think Dyana might have been a plant from Mysaria to make the Greens look bad? We never actually see anything happen between the two of them.
2024-02-23 18:31:06 Anyone else think Dyana might have been a plant from Mysaria to make the Greens look bad? We never actually see anything happen between the two of them.

Anyone else think Dyana might have been a plant from Mysaria to make the Greens look bad? We never actually see anything happen between the two of them.

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130493786

No. We didn't see it because people have grown sick of seeing rape on screen in Game of Thrones. The way it is framed leaves no doubt at all that it happened.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 I mean we don’t know for certain, in the world of ASOIAF would it really be that big of a stretch? Also the show has already depicted SA through Criston and Rhaenyra and with Viserys and Alicent in episode 4 so the show clearly has no qualms with depicting it on screen.
2024-02-23 18:44:05 I mean we don’t know for certain, in the world of ASOIAF would it really be that big of a stretch? Also the show has already depicted SA through Criston and Rhaenyra and with Viserys and Alicent in episode 4 so the show clearly has no qualms with depicting it on screen.
>>130493786

I mean we don’t know for certain, in the world of ASOIAF would it really be that big of a stretch? Also the show has already depicted SA through Criston and Rhaenyra and with Viserys and Alicent in episode 4 so the show clearly has no qualms with depicting it on screen.

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130493786

Neither of those scenes are on par with seeing Aegon grab a girl and raping her while she is pleading for him to stop. And yes what you are saying is a stretch, the scene was meant to show us that Aegon doesn't view those beneath him as people,so he can do anything he wants to them, and that Alicent is willing to cover it up. Basic media literacy is needed to understand this.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 We don’t actually know the truth of what happened with their encounter. Just what Dyana claims happened.
2024-02-23 18:58:49 We don’t actually know the truth of what happened with their encounter. Just what Dyana claims happened.
>>130493786

We don’t actually know the truth of what happened with their encounter. Just what Dyana claims happened.

A
>>130493786

There is no SA with Criston and Rhaenyra….

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130493786

If the show wanted us to doubt the event it would frame it differently, the only reason you doubt it is true is that for some reason you've decided to die on the hill that Aegon is not a villain even though the show AND the book both clearly frame him as one.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Aegon isn’t in the show enough to be a villain. I think the only obvious villains in this show are Daemon and Larys
2024-02-23 19:11:57 Aegon isn’t in the show enough to be a villain. I think the only obvious villains in this show are Daemon and Larys
>>130493786

Aegon isn’t in the show enough to be a villain. I think the only obvious villains in this show are Daemon and Larys

A
>>130493786

@squidward I guess I can understand that

Jigga Man

Milk of the Poppy (seed), cocaine Edit: Actually opium thank you TheSauceGuy

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130493786

Yes he is. If he wasn't you wouldn't need to pretend that what he did with Dyana didn't happen, even though neither Alicent nor Aegon even try to pretend that it didn't. When you intentionally try to misunderstand what you are shown just so you can keep stanning your fave, that's the sign you should maybe reassess your position.

JJ
>>130444734

Baela owns Aegon and Daemon owns Almond😈

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Aegon is a saint compared to other fan favorites like Daemon and Jaime
2024-02-23 20:13:29 Aegon is a saint compared to other fan favorites like Daemon and Jaime
>>130493786

Aegon is a saint compared to other fan favorites like Daemon and Jaime

sushi
>>130445768

teasing isn’t rape 😭 Criston never said no, and he had the chance to stop her he slept with her because he wanted to the only reason why he despises her is because his little fragile ego couldn’t take the fact that she didn’t wanna run away with him. Diana explicitly said she told Aegon to stop and the reason Alicent believed her was because Aegon is 100% capable of doing it and please use your context clues Aegon sleeps with any woman who has legs he also said it was “harmless fun” so you defending a man who is capable of rape and not believing a victim is crazy.

MaraReaper

First watch I cried when Viserys walked to his throne. Fun fact, Viserys’ crown falling off and being picked up by Daemon, placing the crown back on his brother’s head was improvised.

ssj4rit
>>130455084

Dang bro you missed twice. Aegon isn’t Aerys (the Mad King) and Aemond isn’t Maester Aemon.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 If yall love house of the dragon I think you're gonna be obsessed with game of thrones.
2024-02-23 20:57:33 If yall love house of the dragon I think you're gonna be obsessed with game of thrones.

If yall love house of the dragon I think you're gonna be obsessed with game of thrones.

Fedei
>>130493786

Comparing Aegon to a saint is a bit laughable, the character is terrible, not even fit to be king, I'd say even is sister would have been a better Queen.

Fedei

All I'm saying is that Alicent should've taken Rhaenyra's offer in marrying her daughter to Rhaenyra's son, the conflict wouldn't have been this bad.

arcv
>>130444371

This, the Vinland Saga reactions, and the Avatar reactions have all been great because they all were really invested. I normally don't watch reaction channels, but I liked the way these guys honestly reacted to/reviewed Attack on Titan... I like that they're critical of shows, so when they really like something you can tell, and their insights are interesting on the shows they seem to enjoy most.

Empyral

HxH bouta go off

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Aegon is closer to a saint than he is to Daemon. Daemons is a raping, vicious, pedophilic, incestuous by choice, murderous psychopath. Who acts with ruthless intention. Aegon maybe went too far one time with one girl. He’s guilty of a crime that 100’s of guys at every college commit each year. Not exactly comparable.
2024-02-23 21:16:34 Aegon is closer to a saint than he is to Daemon. Daemons is a raping, vicious, pedophilic, incestuous by choice, murderous psychopath. Who acts with ruthless intention. Aegon maybe went too far one time with one girl. He’s guilty of a crime that 100’s of guys at every college commit each year. Not exactly comparable.
>>130493786

Aegon is closer to a saint than he is to Daemon. Daemons is a raping, vicious, pedophilic, incestuous by choice, murderous psychopath. Who acts with ruthless intention. Aegon maybe went too far one time with one girl. He’s guilty of a crime that 100’s of guys at every college commit each year. Not exactly comparable.

arcv
>>130476551

You are insufferable in these comments. On every other show I check the comments to see the discourse... All I see here is people adding to the discourse while you add nothing but emotional refute to every single thing you disagree with. I can tell you're someone who lives in an echochamber, and you're used to marrying yourself to the way you see things, and you emotionally project the way you see things on other people because of it.

arcv

This is one of my favorite episodes of any show I've ever watched. This show overall is brilliantly done. Your reactions have been great to this. Your interest and insights really show when you guys enjoy a series. I never really watch reaction channels, but reliving watching this and other shows with you guys has been dope. You guys have genuinely good insight on shows, and your reactions are honest unlike the other reaction channels I've seen. I appreciate that.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 when there are 100’s of fools who have never read the book spewing lies and having their comments blow up (like earlier comments saying Aemond is Maester Aemon and that Aegon is the Mad King) someone has to step up and report FACTS about the universe. Mindless troglodytes contanstly spreading lies and disinformation and blatant mischaracterization of the story is annoying. If what some of these fools comments are considered “adding to the discourse” while they blatantly misrepresent the story than fine I am willing to be the one to fall on the sword and provide TEXTUAL EVIDENCE and context from ASOIAF. If that’s considered a negative thing, then make me the king of negativity. “Your boos mean nothing to me, I’ve seen what makes you cheer”
2024-02-23 21:23:38 when there are 100’s of fools who have never read the book spewing lies and having their comments blow up (like earlier comments saying Aemond is Maester Aemon and that Aegon is the Mad King) someone has to step up and report FACTS about the universe. Mindless troglodytes contanstly spreading lies and disinformation and blatant mischaracterization of the story is annoying. If what some of these fools comments are considered “adding to the discourse” while they blatantly misrepresent the story than fine I am willing to be the one to fall on the sword and provide TEXTUAL EVIDENCE and context from ASOIAF. If that’s considered a negative thing, then make me the king of negativity. “Your boos mean nothing to me, I’ve seen what makes you cheer”
>>130476551

when there are 100’s of fools who have never read the book spewing lies and having their comments blow up (like earlier comments saying Aemond is Maester Aemon and that Aegon is the Mad King) someone has to step up and report FACTS about the universe. Mindless troglodytes contanstly spreading lies and disinformation and blatant mischaracterization of the story is annoying. If what some of these fools comments are considered “adding to the discourse” while they blatantly misrepresent the story than fine I am willing to be the one to fall on the sword and provide TEXTUAL EVIDENCE and context from ASOIAF. If that’s considered a negative thing, then make me the king of negativity. “Your boos mean nothing to me, I’ve seen what makes you cheer”

Fedei
>>130507358

My guy, we all know Viserys will never say they are bastards, that will then mean he has to kill her, the one child of his true lover. You saying Rhaenyra shouldn't have kids? How many Targaryens are left, Viserys said it himself their line can be easily ended, then her husband can't have kids so she found somewhat love and had kids, and three at best. If Alicent agreed their House would have expanded to greater numbers. Disagree if you want but can't lie that this one option could have lessen the situation.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Sunfyre is getting hungry for a nice fat meal
2024-02-23 21:29:34 Sunfyre is getting hungry for a nice fat meal
>>130444734

Sunfyre is getting hungry for a nice fat meal

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Rewatch the scene if you did not hear Criston say no. Please attend consent training before you meet someone irl.
2024-02-23 21:30:06 Rewatch the scene if you did not hear Criston say no. Please attend consent training before you meet someone irl.
>>130445768

Rewatch the scene if you did not hear Criston say no. Please attend consent training before you meet someone irl.

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130493786

We've gotten to the "downplaying rape" part of this demented defense of Aegon. I'm going to echo other commenters and ask you to go take a walk or something my dude.

Lexi Browning

It's amazing how good ASOIAF can be when it's really in its bag. The season that's coming out this year might bring back that golden GOT era when Conan Obrien couldn't even believe how amazing the show was

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 I’m not downplaying it, just stating that many characters commit far worse crimes in GOT/ASOIAF. Even characters in THIS SHOW. For example, episode 7: Which is worse by comparison, rape or the murder of an innocent man? We just saw in episode 7 Rhaenyra and Daemon have a poor servant MURDERED to allow them to marry. Where is the same energy for that crime as there is towards Aegon? Please rewatch the show maybe you will keep up with the plot this time. Trying to conflate Aegon’s misdeed with the heinous crimes of Rhaenyra and Daemon especially is pure intellectual dishonesty.
2024-02-23 21:47:36 I’m not downplaying it, just stating that many characters commit far worse crimes in GOT/ASOIAF. Even characters in THIS SHOW. For example, episode 7: Which is worse by comparison, rape or the murder of an innocent man? We just saw in episode 7 Rhaenyra and Daemon have a poor servant MURDERED to allow them to marry. Where is the same energy for that crime as there is towards Aegon? Please rewatch the show maybe you will keep up with the plot this time. Trying to conflate Aegon’s misdeed with the heinous crimes of Rhaenyra and Daemon especially is pure intellectual dishonesty.
>>130493786

I’m not downplaying it, just stating that many characters commit far worse crimes in GOT/ASOIAF. Even characters in THIS SHOW. For example, episode 7: Which is worse by comparison, rape or the murder of an innocent man? We just saw in episode 7 Rhaenyra and Daemon have a poor servant MURDERED to allow them to marry. Where is the same energy for that crime as there is towards Aegon? Please rewatch the show maybe you will keep up with the plot this time. Trying to conflate Aegon’s misdeed with the heinous crimes of Rhaenyra and Daemon especially is pure intellectual dishonesty.

Fedei
>>130507358

And that's her chose, to have kids. Besides, they all vowed to put Rhaenyra as the future Queen , even Viserys said he would not revoke his claim. Just breaking a vow is dishonorable in a kingdom that big and old no matter the decisions was, look a Jamie Lannister. Since she is the heir what does the heir have to do to expand her lineage and crown, past it on to the next heir, her children nobody else. The situation is pretty grey in both parts but could the conflict be changed in joining their families, yes. But Imma stand on one thing only on this, we can blame whoever we want but as the main protagonist or antagonist, it all esculated because of Alicent's envy towards Rhaenyra.

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130493786

"Maybe went too far/guilty of a crime that 100s commit in college" is downplaying it. Big time. Like to an extent inexcusable for anyone over the age of ten. As for Rhaenyra and Daemon I never really claimed that they have not also commited a lot of heinous crimes, I follow the plot quite well,it's why I had to explain part of it to you repeatedly. The reason the tv version of Rhaenyra is not a complete villain,like you could argue she is in the book, is because her evil/selfish side co-exists with some very positive and admirable elements as opposed to Aegon who legitimately doesn't have a single positive trait.

sushi
>>130445768

criston said no because his honor was on the line rhaenyra didn’t force him to do anything given the context. i wouldn’t expect you to know how to read the room you’ve never even been touched by a woman it seems.

Fedei
>>130507358

She was already claimed to be the ruler the the realm, before Viserys marriage, before Aegon, before her children, all of these was already established. Everything would have been fine if not for the men in their world and their fear of a women in power. We all can agree Rhaenyra's not a flawless character, she made bad descions but could it all be avoid if they put their hatreds aside and come together as a stronger house, and one day if Rhaenyra dies her sons take the crown.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 How about bravery? Standing up to everyone including his own father by telling him the truth that “we know, everyone knows just look at them”. Is that not a positive trait?
2024-02-23 22:22:18 How about bravery? Standing up to everyone including his own father by telling him the truth that “we know, everyone knows just look at them”. Is that not a positive trait?
>>130493786

How about bravery? Standing up to everyone including his own father by telling him the truth that “we know, everyone knows just look at them”. Is that not a positive trait?

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 You got me I am an incel. Team Black rejoice. Not sure why you are bringing up sexual activity weird but ok…. Also funny how you say Aegon II is a parallel for Maegor, when Rhaenyra is the one who literally gets a nickname named after him 😂😂😂. By the small folk too lol. Rhaenyra is the only parallel to Maegor that the people of Westeros have ever seen.
2024-02-23 22:23:55 You got me I am an incel. Team Black rejoice. Not sure why you are bringing up sexual activity weird but ok…. Also funny how you say Aegon II is a parallel for Maegor, when Rhaenyra is the one who literally gets a nickname named after him 😂😂😂. By the small folk too lol. Rhaenyra is the only parallel to Maegor that the people of Westeros have ever seen.
>>130445768

You got me I am an incel. Team Black rejoice. Not sure why you are bringing up sexual activity weird but ok…. Also funny how you say Aegon II is a parallel for Maegor, when Rhaenyra is the one who literally gets a nickname named after him 😂😂😂. By the small folk too lol. Rhaenyra is the only parallel to Maegor that the people of Westeros have ever seen.

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130493786

That's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You'd have to have very very veeeery low standards for bravery to be impressed by that moment. Especially considering that SPOILERS FOR EPISODE 9, he is very much portrayed as a coward on the next episode. And while we are at it,we learn even more unsavory things about him there.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 Seven save us if we ever seat a bastard on the Iron Throne
2024-02-23 22:29:29 Seven save us if we ever seat a bastard on the Iron Throne
>>130507358

Seven save us if we ever seat a bastard on the Iron Throne

Fedei
>>130507358

I think we'll be fine, as long as he's a male right lol

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130507358

There's so much nonsense here it hurts my brain,but I feel compelled to respond for some reason lol. Starting with the easy stuff, there is nothing wrong with having a king who may or may not be a bastard as long as he is smart and decent, as Jace is. It's an open question whether Daeron II was a bastard himself and he was one of the best kings of Westeros. The idea that being a bastard makes you inferior is supposed to be a nonsensical medieval superstition,not something that a modern viewer actually believes, Jesus.

Squidward's Grumpier Cousin
>>130507358

Second having bastards was not "the cause of all the bad things that happened to Rhaenyra". It wouldn't matter if she only had perfect Targaryen kids and never made a mistake in her life. As Otto said "it wouldn't matter if she was Jaehaerys himself born again". All that matters is that she is a woman. And the reason it's all that matters is not because "that's how succession is". The Targaryens exempted themselves from the rules that you can't marry twice and that you can't marry your siblings. They could have exempted themselves from the rule that women can't inherit. Hell,it would be easier because there is precedent in Dorne! The implied reason in the book for why Jaehaerys didn't do it, and why there is so much resistance to her claim is very, very simple: misogyny. We as modern readers/viewers are meant to disagree with that mentality and cheer for someone fighting against it, though not blindly of course, Rhaenyra is definitely not above criticism in some of her other choices. But saying that she should just "not have kids" and let the throne go to Aegon...that's just abandoning her claim in essence. You can't say that a woman should be allowed to be queen, but only if she doesn't have kids. That's nonsense.

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 And Rhaenyra would rather condemn her kids to death by making them bastards than be a truly loving mother
2024-02-23 23:47:14 And Rhaenyra would rather condemn her kids to death by making them bastards than be a truly loving mother
>>130493786

And Rhaenyra would rather condemn her kids to death by making them bastards than be a truly loving mother

Brittany Mitchell

Such an incredible, unforgettable scene, and this show is not lacking in that regard at all. If you guys are curious as to what illness Vicerys had, I think it's assumed to be leprosy, though this isn't confirmed to my knowledge.

Brittany Mitchell

Ugh it amazes me that just watching a debilitated man walk across a room has so much emotion and weight behind it that it is, in my opinion, the best scene of the season, and one of the best scenes in GOT or HoTD... Chills every time and I've seen this scene about 10 times XD

Brittany Mitchell

I also think that Rhaenys watching Vicerys do what he did to defend Rhaenyra helped her confirm her decision to back Rhaenyra!

BipolarKitten

@👑Viserys True Heir👑 , how many times you change you username? You are "James" before this and then just "👑". And now you are "👑Viserys True Heir👑".

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 How is this misogyny when you can clearly see her bad parenting and abuse.
2024-02-24 17:09:21 How is this misogyny when you can clearly see her bad parenting and abuse.
>>130448810

How is this misogyny when you can clearly see her bad parenting and abuse.

Tyler Sick

ALICENT: “You Targaryen’s do have queer customs” ALSO ALICENT: “I should marry my son to my daughter yeah that’s what I’ll do”

Ari_iya_kia

there are major spoilers for the ending of house of the dragon in one of the episodes for game of thrones. The spoiler in Season 3, ep 4 is at the 15:49 mark and ends at 16:06. This is right after Varys says: "Prodigies in odd places indeed" Another one to avoid: Season 5, episode 9. When Sir Davos goes to see Shireen. Mute or fast forward starting at 11:10 through 11:35.

Jacob Goldsmith

ep one of got gonna hit to hard

dy
>>130476551

Adaptations are not 1:1 recreations of the source material. Taking the books and using that as a screenplay is not viable which is why things are cut, modified or have additional scenes/dialogue added to the adaptation to better suit the flow of the story and pacing, this means characters can be changed to suit a trope that works well on-screen. Its tiring when so many people nowadays think everything in an adaptation's source material would suit a video format, there is a reason directors choose to change these things and like the majority of others' opinions (based on high review ratings and general social media reception) I think season 1 of HOTD was incredible and they achieved something akin to the peak of GOT drama.

Mei Nano

Aaaah I shouldn't watch HOTD whilst watching GOT at the same time, but I don't want to miss your reaction. After you are done with HOTD, i will re-watch it anyway. But yeah, every episode it's just give me goosebumps, what a masterpiece. I can see in your faces that you are really enjoying it😊 thanks for the reaction.

Anna

Now GRRM making twin knights named Arryk and Erryk…..as if it’s not hard enough to keep things straight lol

Anna

Also I remember that Pepsi nitro intro and it was hilarious

Anna
>>130661651

Right!! In the books I was like alright and then in the show I was like 🥴 I’ll do my best 🤣

Savannah

I am so antsy for the next two episodes and Game of Thrones OMG

sushi
>>130445768

you are… and i never said he was a parallel to Aegon II i said he was SIMILAR there is a difference but i can’t expect you to be good at reading comprehension either sorry if that’s too hard for you.

sushi
>>130445768

he cooked nothing he’s been reading everything wrong and creating his own conclusions while also reaching to prove himself right which isn’t working

Jacob Goldsmith

people knew him as many names. but he was best known as viscerys the old king

Jacob Goldsmith

also he aged faster due to the weight of the crown

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2024-02-27 00:58:23 No that’s Jaehaerys
2024-02-26 17:58:10 No that’s Jaehaerys
>>130686856

No that’s Jaehaerys

leah

"he can keep his tongue" is FUCKING CRAZY... that scene reminded me of the season finale of vinland season one

leah

alexis ♡︎

since this season is coming to an end, i was wondering if you guys have considered doing a season review like you did for aot? you guys have been having such good discussions and i think a lot of people would enjoy you guys discussing your favorite characters, scenes, and predictions etc!! i mean ik i would cus this is one of the shows i could talk about foreverrr 😩 i think it would be a good idea for got too 😁🙏🏾

Chantelle Miles
>>130797820

Sorry but she didn't take the girls side at all. This is a repeated occurence, she was all ready and made it clear when shouting at Aegon, that this has happened multiple times. Allicent protected her son and slapped him like usual but he is the son she raised no matter if she fake disowns him. She literally victim blamed that poor girl and scared her into silence to yes protect her but mainly to portect Aegons reputation. The things she said proved that but she did feel guilty and sadness for the servant. That's not taking her side though or enough to change her sons behaviour. It's no surpise Aegon has no respect for women with how she's raised him. Whereas Jace and Luke adore their mother and think shes perfect, she's not but they would never be caught raping or abusing women. Even Aemond beat on the girls in ep 7 because of all the hateful stuff Allicent has taught them. Things could have been so different if she encouraged love and to get in with Rhaenyra's boys. The rape wasn't the 1st which means Allicent is onky protecting her house, like she's meant to do like Otto.

Chantelle Miles

Vaemon was wrong though and comitted treason. He proved Rhaenyra correct since Rhaenys solved his issue by agreeing to Rhaenyra's proposal. Jace and Luke marrying Baela and Rhaena ensures that Driftmark stays in the Velaryons bloodline and name. Vaemond was out for himself and his own brother chose Luke over him for a reason. Coryls built his houses fame and fortune, Vaemond was out for his own ambition. It's the grandkids who inherit not the brother.

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2024-02-28 23:40:29 Little Luke Strong the bastard must have pissed himself when he saw Aemond for the first time.
2024-02-28 18:25:51 Little Luke Strong the bastard must have pissed himself when he saw Aemond for the first time.

Little Luke Strong the bastard must have pissed himself when he saw Aemond for the first time.

Chantelle Miles
>>130913327

Thats bull lol, it goes to the kids. Baela and Rhaena are mixed and will carry on the bloodline. The boys the name. Plus lets not get ethnicity involved, since they're all white in books anyways.

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2024-03-20 19:49:21 Yeah Ryan Condal really fumbled by making the Velaryon’s a darker shade than the books. If anything, given that we don’t see House Hightower in the books, and unlike the Velaryon’s the Hightowers ancestry is not tied to a specifically white skinned white haired purple eyed race. The Hightowers should have been made to be a black family. It may have helped to avoid the clear modern lines the show whether intentionally or unintentionally are trying to draw. When all the women, minorities, and LGBT characters support one side, the show becomes kind of pandering.
2024-02-28 20:25:08 Yeah Ryan Condal really fumbled by making the Velaryon’s a darker shade than the books. If anything, given that we don’t see House Hightower in the books, and unlike the Velaryon’s the Hightowers ancestry is not tied to a specifically white skinned white haired purple eyed race. The Hightowers should have been made to be a black family. It may have helped to avoid the clear modern lines the show whether intentionally or unintentionally are trying to draw. When all the women, minorities, and LGBT characters support one side, the show becomes kind of pandering.
>>130913327

Yeah Ryan Condal really fumbled by making the Velaryon’s a darker shade than the books. If anything, given that we don’t see House Hightower in the books, and unlike the Velaryon’s the Hightowers ancestry is not tied to a specifically white skinned white haired purple eyed race. The Hightowers should have been made to be a black family. It may have helped to avoid the clear modern lines the show whether intentionally or unintentionally are trying to draw. When all the women, minorities, and LGBT characters support one side, the show becomes kind of pandering.

Chantelle Miles
>>130575491

Shes the biggest Hyprocrite. She also said she would never protect her kids like Visery does for Rhaenyra lol..yet she's worse covering up rapes. Rhaenyra just had kids with a good guy who wasn't her gay husband, who also was onboard with her kids regardless of dna.

Elaine
>>130506893

Agree especially the first three season. It’s just so sooo good

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2024-03-20 19:49:21 I fully understand why all of you really like King Viserys. The show makes him a very likable character. And he is epic in this episode. But in the end he did not like to deal with the tough aspects of ruling. You saw it in the very first scene with him. He did not want to address the issue of the pirates in the Stepstones, but he was all in favor of discussing the details of the upcoming tournament being held for the birth of his child. This was a great example of how he chose to rule. Yet he made a decision that caused all sorts of trouble by naming Rhaenyra as his heir. The only reason that he became king was because the majority of lords throughout the land chose him over his cousin. If the heir was decided regardless of their sex, it would have gone to Princess Rhaenys. It was really an unusual step for King Jaehaerys to essentially hold a vote to decide the next king. But because his two eldest sons had died and there were various ways to decide the succession, he chose to get the input of the lords of Westeros. And they clearly chose the male heir. So Viserys ignored the precedent that was set by making him king in order to install his daughter. He then proceeded to remarry and have sons, but still chose to leave Rhaenyra as his heir. You guys are right that so much of this had to do with Aemma. He felt such guilt over her death. And she was the love of his life. The actor even confirmed that this was how he played Viserys and his motivations. The creators of the show said that Viserys’ disease was supposed to be a form of leprosy. The actor said that because of his guilt over what happened to Aemma he never took trying to treat it too seriously because he thought it was his fate. And in that final moment when he said “my love,” he was supposed to be envisioning Aemma as he died. The confusion between Alicent and Viserys at his deathbed was not only because he thought he was talking to Rhaenyra. Remember back to the episode three with the hunt. A very drunk Viserys was talking to a very pregnant Alicent by the bonfire. And he was telling her about his dream of a son born to him that would wear the Conqueror’s crown and sit the Iron Throne. And at that moment he questioned whether his decision to make Rhaenyra his heir was the right choice. Well now Alicent is hearing him talk about a dream and using the name Aegon. To wrap up, one of the things I really enjoyed in this episode was seeing Jace and Helaena dancing. It felt like a moment of what could have been, if Alicent had just agreed to Rhaenyra’s suggestion that they wed those two back in episode six, right after Joffrey was born. They could have combined both factions of the Targaryen House that are currently competing with each other. Instead Alicent had her son Aegon marry Helaena even though she accused Rhaenyra of the “Targaryen’s queer customs” when she thought something had happened between Rhaenyra and Daemon in episode four. To me this just demonstrates her hypocrisy.
2024-03-01 17:52:10 I fully understand why all of you really like King Viserys. The show makes him a very likable character. And he is epic in this episode. But in the end he did not like to deal with the tough aspects of ruling. You saw it in the very first scene with him. He did not want to address the issue of the pirates in the Stepstones, but he was all in favor of discussing the details of the upcoming tournament being held for the birth of his child. This was a great example of how he chose to rule. Yet he made a decision that caused all sorts of trouble by naming Rhaenyra as his heir. The only reason that he became king was because the majority of lords throughout the land chose him over his cousin. If the heir was decided regardless of their sex, it would have gone to Princess Rhaenys. It was really an unusual step for King Jaehaerys to essentially hold a vote to decide the next king. But because his two eldest sons had died and there were various ways to decide the succession, he chose to get the input of the lords of Westeros. And they clearly chose the male heir. So Viserys ignored the precedent that was set by making him king in order to install his daughter. He then proceeded to remarry and have sons, but still chose to leave Rhaenyra as his heir. You guys are right that so much of this had to do with Aemma. He felt such guilt over her death. And she was the love of his life. The actor even confirmed that this was how he played Viserys and his motivations. The creators of the show said that Viserys’ disease was supposed to be a form of leprosy. The actor said that because of his guilt over what happened to Aemma he never took trying to treat it too seriously because he thought it was his fate. And in that final moment when he said “my love,” he was supposed to be envisioning Aemma as he died. The confusion between Alicent and Viserys at his deathbed was not only because he thought he was talking to Rhaenyra. Remember back to the episode three with the hunt. A very drunk Viserys was talking to a very pregnant Alicent by the bonfire. And he was telling her about his dream of a son born to him that would wear the Conqueror’s crown and sit the Iron Throne. And at that moment he questioned whether his decision to make Rhaenyra his heir was the right choice. Well now Alicent is hearing him talk about a dream and using the name Aegon. To wrap up, one of the things I really enjoyed in this episode was seeing Jace and Helaena dancing. It felt like a moment of what could have been, if Alicent had just agreed to Rhaenyra’s suggestion that they wed those two back in episode six, right after Joffrey was born. They could have combined both factions of the Targaryen House that are currently competing with each other. Instead Alicent had her son Aegon marry Helaena even though Alicent accused Rhaenyra of the “Targaryen’s queer customs” when she thought something had happened between Rhaenyra and Daemon in episode four. To me this just demonstrates Alicent’s hypocrisy.

I fully understand why all of you really like King Viserys. The show makes him a very likable character. And he is epic in this episode. But in the end he did not like to deal with the tough aspects of ruling. You saw it in the very first scene with him. He did not want to address the issue of the pirates in the Stepstones, but he was all in favor of discussing the details of the upcoming tournament being held for the birth of his child. This was a great example of how he chose to rule. Yet he made a decision that caused all sorts of trouble by naming Rhaenyra as his heir. The only reason that he became king was because the majority of lords throughout the land chose him over his cousin. If the heir was decided regardless of their sex, it would have gone to Princess Rhaenys. It was really an unusual step for King Jaehaerys to essentially hold a vote to decide the next king. But because his two eldest sons had died and there were various ways to decide the succession, he chose to get the input of the lords of Westeros. And they clearly chose the male heir. So Viserys ignored the precedent that was set by making him king in order to install his daughter. He then proceeded to remarry and have sons, but still chose to leave Rhaenyra as his heir. You guys are right that so much of this had to do with Aemma. He felt such guilt over her death. And she was the love of his life. The actor even confirmed that this was how he played Viserys and his motivations. The creators of the show said that Viserys’ disease was supposed to be a form of leprosy. The actor said that because of his guilt over what happened to Aemma he never took trying to treat it too seriously because he thought it was his fate. And in that final moment when he said “my love,” he was supposed to be envisioning Aemma as he died. The confusion between Alicent and Viserys at his deathbed was not only because he thought he was talking to Rhaenyra. Remember back to the episode three with the hunt. A very drunk Viserys was talking to a very pregnant Alicent by the bonfire. And he was telling her about his dream of a son born to him that would wear the Conqueror’s crown and sit the Iron Throne. And at that moment he questioned whether his decision to make Rhaenyra his heir was the right choice. Well now Alicent is hearing him talk about a dream and using the name Aegon. To wrap up, one of the things I really enjoyed in this episode was seeing Jace and Helaena dancing. It felt like a moment of what could have been, if Alicent had just agreed to Rhaenyra’s suggestion that they wed those two back in episode six, right after Joffrey was born. They could have combined both factions of the Targaryen House that are currently competing with each other. Instead Alicent had her son Aegon marry Helaena even though Alicent accused Rhaenyra of the “Targaryen’s queer customs” when she thought something had happened between Rhaenyra and Daemon in episode four. To me this just demonstrates Alicent’s hypocrisy.

Shikhar Srivastava

Hi Studio Gek. Since you guys mentioned how spoiler-y GOT would be for HOTD, let me just tell you that you can indeed watch the whole of Game of Thrones without a care at all. There are only a very few spoilers that you need to be careful about. I will mention the exact time stamps for episode where the spoilers are present. So please do make a note of it and avoid them. These are:- * The spoiler in Season 3, ep 4 is at the 15:49 mark and ends at 16:06. This is right after Varys says: "Prodigies in odd places indeed" (Fast forward or mute or you'll have a major spoiler for HotD character you’ve already met.) * Another one to avoid: Season 5, episode 9. When Sir Davos goes to see Shireen. Mute or fast forward starting at 11:10 through 11:35. The rest of their exchange is fine. AVOID AND SKIP THESE AND YOU ARE TOTALLY FINE TO GO AND PROCEED WITH GAME OF THRONES. (Let me know if you guys see my comment and have taken it into consideration and if you think you would watch GOT now or wait for HOTD season 2. Thanks.)

Asbjørn Kennedy

I decided to binge this watchthrough in a day and it’s been juicy. I hadnt seen house of the dragon before this, but I did watch the first six seasons of GOT back in the day before it soured on me. But ngl I am hella excited for the boys to start GoT now, it is gonna be WILD! Also Viserys is my GOAT, I kinda hated him in his first scene ep 1 because he seemed like he didnt care about ruling matters, but he totally won me over rather quickly. And his walk this ep was epic as heck

Sandi

That’s my king crusty for you 😍😍😤 👑

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are you seriously asking of RAPE is worse than murder????? and no she wasnt a pplant bc aegon himself literally confirmed it... aegon is just as bad as the rest of the men

Nicole Smith (edited)

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2024-07-15 03:40:40 Jack “don’t say it” Daemon “say it” Jack 😲
2024-07-04 01:04:29 Jack “don’t say it” Daemon “say it” Jack 😲

Jack “don’t say it” Daemon “say it” Jack 😲