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Ye - Ye - REDUX (Patreon)

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2023-02-21 21:43:35
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2023-12
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Kanye West is first on the list of  Rolling Stone’s 50 Genuinely Horrible Albums By Brilliant Artists. This is for his 2018 album Ye. It is said to have “marked the beginning of the most disastrous artistic and personal collapse in the history of popular music”. So... let's revisit the album! One of my favourite Kanye West albums! Does that make me an idiot?


And... perhaps more importantly... are we allowed to enjoy a Kanye West album anymore? Or a Michael Jackson album? Or ***insert artist here***? I know it's an age old question... but can the art rise above the artist? Seriously... discuss in the comments here! I'm genuinely interested to know what you think!

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bennymakesgames

Regardless of the morality of the piece, after his music being a formative part of my life for so long, I find myself unable to listen to his music without unbearable negative feelings cropping up. I have close friends who are Jewish and the Antisemitic remarks have, personally, pretty near spoiled my listening experiences, because I just think of an utter asshole he is. I mean, he always was an asshole, but in a way where I could still enjoy his music. It's like how whenever I see Kevin Spacey in a movie now, I just cringe. And this is separate from all the "should we support assholes?" argument, and more just a visceral negative disgust I feel in the moment, regardless of me having to think about implications of anything. However, each person will have their own experience, and I don't mind if others can enjoy it, for some of the reasons listed above. I just personally can't do it. The act repels me!

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He made graduation

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Might as well revisit this If I’m listening to cancelled artist with 6 as a proxy

Phoebe

I will say that the first two tracks are probably my favorites Kanye has ever done, even if I don't think this is his best album. As for the discussion on art vs the artist, this and Yeezus have been important albums to me as a bipolar person. I think I listened to both for around 18 hours straight during various manic episodes, but the stuff he's been doing and continuing to do makes it hard to listen. Also the weird way people give him a ton of passes for being mentally ill but don't realize that you have to do better, and can't just vaguely allude to being kinda maybe sorry about shitty things you do/did during bad times. It's not exactly a new trend, as I mostly grew up on emo and rock/metal albums I'm no stranger to finding out some super personally important artist has done heinous stuff. And I've never been truly able to overlook that. Maybe I get a bit drunk and reminisce on the music and what it meant but even pirating it or something doesn't really help. Most of said artists, like Kanye, are likeable because of their flaws and personality. So when their personality turns sour it sort of raises a barrier for me, not even in a high-minded manner I just don't feel the same spark