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Heh... I knew Patreon was too good to be true. PayPal allows adult people to draw nudity? No way! What else there is to say? I did TOTALLY see this coming. And I have a feeling that it will only get worse from here... So you, know. Hentai United is my only hope as usual... (Also because Pareon changed activity feed interface I accidentally posted this post as a "creation"... And the only way to undo it is to delete the whole thing... crap.) So this is a letter I got this morning... Seems like our "private" little club truly did became private now... Nobody will be able to find my patreon page if the don't know the password: "http://www.patreon.com/80263" I guess adult content warnings are not enough anymore... Seriously. There is no "Adult" tab on patreon, every Patreon page containing NSFW material is completely under the radar now. They just swept us all under the rug... Doesn't it just make you feel special? I drew those Lola Pledge drawings in "Rebelion" theme as a joke but I was spot on it seems. We ARE operating in shadows now. "Spread the word, spread the word! Support the movement! Viva la revolution! Here is a pamphlet! http://www.patreon.com/80263! http://www.patreon.com/80263! Show the pamphlet to the friends you trust then burn it. Don't let the government know. http://www.patreon.com/80263!"

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Min Lungelow

Is it true that patreon's policy now says you can't include these things? because those are what makes porn not suck. -Close up depictions of intercourse, masturbation, or genitalia -Depictions of sexual bodily fluids -Anything we forgot to put on this list but makes our users uncomfortable

akabur

I am assuming they mean actual porn. (Like photographs) Porn is not allowed on Patreon.

Anonymous

How about instead of screwing over people like me who put money into Patreon you tell Paypal to go fuck themselves? I cannot believe Patreon allowed Paypal to do this. What a boneheaded move. I was wondering why none of my payments were going through. Not only that but it blocks me from seeing content from the people I watch because the payment system thinks I owe people money. Fucking stupid.

Temperator (Tempy)

I was wondering why I couldn't pledge my favorite artist on Paypal. I wonder why Patreon doesn't have a wallet/credit system in place.

Anonymous

The best solution is not for Patreon to tell PayPal anything,...it's for YOU to tell payPal something. Since you disagree with How PayPal is behaving. Tell them you are closing your PayPal account and why.... Then connect to Patreon with your CC card. And send them a Note explaining why you will No longer be paying them through PayPal. It is always easier to say " I don't Like what PayPal is doing so Patreon, you shpould have told them to fuck off." when the solution is simpler. Since you are the one upset,...you should be the one telling PayPal to fuck off... don't ya think?

Anonymous

What I don't get is why nothing's being done about Paypal. Do people really have to just sit back and take it?

Anonymous

I am a nswf artist how ever I just draw it I dont post photos or stuff like that , will I still get pay in paypal??? .....I post all in private for patreons but still that thing in the FAQ scares me a bit

Anonymous

I share the last news about the NSFW policy with you : <a href="http://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1400972&amp;u=92042&amp;alert=3">http://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1400972&amp;u=92042&amp;alert=3</a> we don't have to worry anymore ^^

Jordan Dean Ezekude

I think this is incredibly important info here. At least this should help future Creators be more cautious.

Anonymous

There is a page called Pledge X thats has recently started, seems to be a patreon page but for adults.

Anonymous

Here is the link you asked for in reference to my last post. "There is a page called Pledge X thats has recently started, seems to be a patreon page but for adults." <a href="https://www.pledgex.net/browse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.pledgex.net/browse</a> And just cause i can ill plug my projects. <a href="https://www.pledgex.net/Phranger" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.pledgex.net/Phranger</a>

Talisca

So I'm supposed to leave because I don't have a credit card?

akabur

Don't worry about that... I'm pretty sure that another big problem just around the corner. Stay (if Patreon will let you) and let us go down in flames all together.

Nordicberserk

Stupid paypal. Oh well, Ive fixed my pledge, so you still get your money ;)

Anonymous

I have received the same mail. It was not hard enough to develop adult games, now we must do it without Paypal! And no more public interface! At least adult content is still allowed -_-!

akabur

Yeah, this is not the first time PayPal causing me problems. And just like you said: at least adult content is still allowed, because I would expect them to just shut down the whole thing completely... :(

Anonymous

changed to credit card no big deal

Anonymous

Psst, guys... Here is a quite creepy quote from Patreon's FAQ about adult content from link in mail above: "What is not allowed? Pornography is not allowed on Patreon. “Pornography” is defined as material designed with the sole intention of eliciting sexual arousal. Specifically, Patreon does not allow: -Close up depictions of intercourse, masturbation, or genitalia -Depictions of sexual bodily fluids -Any sexual content depicting underage subjects -Anything we forgot to put on this list but makes our users uncomfortable" So, we should step really careful here, cause the line between "adult content" and "porn" is very, very thin. Anyways according to Patreon.

akabur

Well if I knew about such rules from day one I would follow them, but they just keep changing them...

akabur

Also hiding all adult artists from showing in the search is such a weird solution...

Anonymous

i pay via credit so i still got your back

Anonymous

Well, there's still the DLSite (they allow paypal last I checked) and if you translate your works into Japanese, you'll make sell even more comix. #FoodForThought.

akabur

DLSite is for selling things... I thought about it, but unfortunately I have no interest in selling anything... Plus I'm pretty sure the won't agree to accept my work since it's a parody for the most part.

Anonymous

I just change the mode of payment, and to show my support and that Patreon can be a good compromise I increases it at the same time!

Vargh

At least Paypal where cool about it, they could just shut the entire thing down, but they let them just make the pages private and remove the Paypal option. I\m happy they didn't have to remove the page, as I just discovered it :)

akabur

Yes, I know. I actually am surprised that Pateron was able to bargain with them somehow and able to come up with some sort of deal without shutting don all the NSFW stuff completely. Yay for that! ^^ And thank you for joining me here. If they don't shut me down I think we will have a lot of fun here!

Anonymous

This is so upsetting... thank you for posting this. It makes a lot of sense now -_- so sad though. wtf paypal

Anonymous

very weird : Our Patreons pages are not in the search engine anymore... but I still see your page in the "discover" results O_o! Try to click "discover" with no string in the search field and you will see your page in the top results !

Anonymous

oh this is interesting to know. I'm new to patreon and was wondering why I couldn't find other adult creators here. so I'm not sure what's the best way to find other adult creators here, does anyone have any ideas?

akabur

Hm... You're right. But I think it could be that you can see me because you "follow" me and I can see my own page because, well, it's my own page. Did you try to log out and do that? If you can still see my page then it's probably because they didn't "fix" that yet and will I'm sure with another Patreon update. You can also still access my page with patreon.com/akabur but I'm sure that will be fixed soon enough as well.

Anonymous

Hilarious

Anonymous

What? i cant post my sexy pictures here? 😱

akabur

As long as it's not actual porn you should be fine. I think...